Original Guru Granth Sahib Bir

[dhan_dhan_sikhi]

Sat sri akal

I have found that most gutkas and even online Guru Granth Sahibs have lots of "aunkarrs" ,"siharis" etc missing due to the carelessness and also due to the ignorance of Gurbani Grammar.After reading Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji' book "Gurbani diyan lagan maatran di vilakhannta" I could see how ignorant our panth has become.

I need access to original and mistakeless Guru Granth Sahib.

Can someone tell me from where I can get it.

Its really important because one small mistake can change the entire meaning of the Gurvaak and lead to mann matt.

KHALISTAN ZINDABAD

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

The first ever compilation of Gurbani was the Kartarpuri Adi Bir Sahib, which also contained mistakes that Guru Arjun Sahib himself corrected. That is located with the Sodhis to this day. The finalized compilation of what we know as the Guru Granth Sahib Ji was dictated by Guru Gobind Singh Ji to Bhai Mani Singh Ji and was nicknamed the Damdami Bir Sahib (location of the dictation). This Bir Sahib is either lost or was destroyed by Abdali in one of his invasions. However, Baba Deep Singh Ji made many Saroops based on the Damdami Bir Sahib. Such Saroop Sahibs are still installed at the Thakts.

Getting access to them is another matter...

[kurtas]

"sant" fateh su got the last rites of many historical Guru Granth Sahib Ji performed. It is said with this barbaric act we lost much of our history.

[DhadiMania]

which of the really really historical birs did "sant" fateh actually do the antam sanskaar on? because on gurpurabs they show a hand written saroop of maharaj (kartarpuri bit version).

and the guru granth sahib ji di bir in harminder sahib at the top floor is in tatters...(someone has replaced that) but i ask, the saroop which raja ranjit singh gave, what happened to that?

gustaphi maaf

[kurtas]

which of the really really historical birs did "sant" fateh actually do the antam sanskaar on? because on gurpurabs they show a hand written saroop of maharaj (kartarpuri bit version).

and the guru granth sahib ji di bir in harminder sahib at the top floor is in tatters...(someone has replaced that) but i ask, the saroop which raja ranjit singh gave, what happened to that?

gustaphi maaf

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Thats one of the things, no one kept records or anything so that further adds to our ability to recognise what we lost. But it is reported they were hand written Guru Ji and a few centuries old.

There is a footnote in a Sikh History book regarding what he did. I will see if I can find the book and I will post the footnote.

[Bijla Singh]

Thats one of the things, no one kept records or anything so that further adds to our ability to recognise what we lost. But it is reported they were hand written Guru Ji and a few centuries old.

Bhai Shamsher Singh Ashok had the responsibility of taking care of Reference Library and until then he kept all the record. I know people who take care of Puratan Bir Sahibs in Darbar Sahib and Akal Takhat Sahib. They keep the record and do not do Saskaar of puratan Birs for no reason. Many Saroops from 18th century still exist today. You should provide more details and some solid proofs. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

[Jai Tegang!]

1.are the Birs prepared by Baba Deep Singh still existant today?

If so, where exactly are they (not speculation, but some proof).

2.what is the history of the Bir at the top floor of Harimandar Sahib? Is it one of the Birs Baba Deep Singh ji prepared, or some other one?

just some questions that i could think of.

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

As per the Katha of I believe Sant Hari Singh of Randhawa (though could be another Taksal Singh Sahib), the Saroop Sahibs handwritten by Baba Deep Singh Ji are present at the Thakts and he has viewed them himself.

[Jai Tegang!]

Sat Sri Akal:

As per the Katha of I believe Sant Hari Singh of Randhawa (though could be another Taksal Singh Sahib), the Saroop Sahibs handwritten by Baba Deep Singh Ji are present at the Thakts and he has viewed them himself.

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:TH: Thanks

Has any scholar made an attempt to compare the Saroops?

This would surely resolve many issues like manglacharan, raagmala.

[Guest A Singh.]

These particular Saroops are not written by Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji; if they were, all controversies on many different subjects would stop immediately. It is well known there are various differences between these different Birs. Gursikhs such as the late Bhai Joginder Singh Talwara spent literally decades researching and examing Puratan Saroops. Even Jathedar Vedanti has done alot of studying into ensuring that as far as possible printing of Saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib is correct.

If our Sikh history was so black and white as some people make out, there would be no confusions on issues in the Panth.