Babar Khalsa And Isyf

[Anhad_ATL_ISYF]

Hey guys i have been doing my research about babar khalsa and ISYF :nihungsmile: and aint sure what our sikh bros have to say about theme. Then indian and some other conutries like canada have annouced them illeagle and stuff but are they realy terrorists or helping us shikhs live in peace. In other words do we support them or do we call them terrorists.

[Guest Babbar Wanna be]

babbar Khalsa are different to isyd and so on. babbars gave saheeedi and where true khalsa like shaheed baba jarnail singh

offcourse they are khalsa. u cant call them terrorists because they are seen as the panth as the faujan of guroo sahib.

comming soon to a pind near u

BkJuK

[Tera]

Banned or not, i wouldnt say these groups were terrorist organisation. For example, ISYF's aims were:

1. To promote Sikh philosophy and the Sikh way of life.

2. To promote and preserve the Sikh heritage and culture.

3. To speak out against Human Rights violations.

4. To act as a voice of the oppressed Sikhs of India.

5. To peacefully work towards establishing an independent homeland for the Sikhs - Khalistan.

Despite allegations of assassinations, bombings and kidnappings by the ISYF since the 1980s not a single example from the last 16 years could be provided. Therefore, no evidence was presented to show the ISYF carried out any attacks.

Read more at http://www.sikhlionz.com/isyfban.htm

Freedom fighters are always going to be labeled as terrorists by India and there the ones that pushed to get these people/groups banned elsewhere.

[Lion(LK)King]

BKI, consists of Shaheeds such as

Bhai Anokh Singh Ji

Bhai Sukhdev Singh Babbar

Bhai Mengha Singh Ji

BHai Dilawar Singh Ji

and many many more.

Please do research on this forum on the jeevan of above mentioned shaheeds- you will be surprised!!!

[anjaan]

"one person's terrorist is another person's freedom-fighter"

[jagjit_waheguru]

waheguru ji kekhalsa waheguru ji kefateh

Pyare jio, read their jeevans then you will see the quality of Gursikhs that they were.

http://www.tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1...204#reply_63204

waheguru ji kekhalsa waheguru ji kefateh

[nanosecond]

To the topic....I would say.....Good

[sikh supreme]

"one person's terrorist is another person's freedom-fighter"

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Well said.

Further more these groups are about liberating one's homeland from oppressive forces. They are not like the like's of the islamist groups who call for the killings of non-believers ethnic and religious cleasening etc,etc.

Those 2 groups were only banned after much pressure and lobbying from the Indian government in return for financial deals and stronger econonmic ties. If in the future these ties are cut because of some diplomatic incident, I gurantee these groups will not only be un-banned but aided by western govt's to look out for their own interests.

[Guest Dilip]

Hi, Sikhs are da'mn good guys! Just as much as any other 'type' of guys'. We also have our own 'bad guys' or guys with misplaced notions. Just as much as any other 'type' of guys. NO TRUE SIKH CAN BE A TERRORIST -THE GURU AND THE GRANTH DOES NOT ALLOW IT AT ALL. THEY TEACH LOVE,TOLERANCE, FORGIVENESS & PROTECTION OF THE WEAK AND DEFENCELESS! HOW CAN SUCH PEOPLE BE TERRORISTS WHO STRIKE FEAR BY TARGETTING THE WEAK? . Some bad guys amongst us CAN NOT MAKE US us all bad.ON THE CONTRARY THEY WILL RECTIFY THEMSELVES. SOME GUYS CALLING US BAD DOES NOT MAKE US SO - UNLESS WE THINK SO. All The Best Do your research without any such mental tensions or unnecessary thoughts, WAHE GURU will guide you through and show you the way ahead - ALWAYS . HAVE FAITH . DK.

Hey guys i have been doing my research about babar khalsa and ISYF  :nihungsmile:  and aint sure what our sikh  bros have to say about theme. Then indian and some other conutries like canada have annouced them illeagle and stuff but are they realy terrorists or helping us shikhs live in peace. In other words do we support them or do we call them terrorists. 

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[Guest Guest]

If you think That the people who belong to the group BKI, are freedom fighters then why did they kill so many youngsters with their families. THE WORD FREEDOM FIGHTER MEANS THE ONE WHO FIGHTS FOR THE INNOCENT & NOT ONE WHO KILLS THE INNOCENT. If you don't beleieve me then ask the mother or father who lost their child or children because of them. Or a person who lost his / her family because of these people.