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most of the time i come across alot of sloks that relate to the "true Guru"....im confuzed...who is guruji reffering to when He says that....ok il give an example...

suxqy punIq khqy pivqu siqguru rihAw BrpUry ]

sunuthae puneeth kehuthae pavith sathigur rehiaa bhurupoorae

Pure are the listeners, and pure are the speakers; the True Guru is all-pervading and permeating.

ibnvMiq nwnku gur crx lwgy vwjy Anhd qUry ]40]1]

binuvunth naanuk gur churun laagae vaajae anehudh thoorae

Prays Nanak, touching the Guru's Feet, the unstruck sound current of the celestial bugles vibrates and resounds. ||40||1|

or....is Guruji on about Vaheguruji?

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Guru Nanak Dev Ji, when asked who is his Guru, said Shabad Guru.

I was always told that the Guru of Guru Nanak Maharaj Ji was Parmesar Himself.

Vaheguru Vaheguru Vaheguru

Gurbani says 'So mukh jale jit ke thakur jooni - Let that mouth burn that says God is in the circle of life and death! As Guru Nanak Maharaj Ji speaks of God as imortal this is the Guru!

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Guest PRITAM SINGH KHALSA

The True Guru is Waheguru within you and all. When the you listen to the True Guru it means you only do good and see Waheguru in all.

Good natured people can say that they allow the True Guru to reside in their actions etc.

Gurus wernt God. They have the same attributes as God but God is one in all creation. The Gurus were vessels in which the words of God were shown to humanity etc.

Remember God first and then remember the Gurus.

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namustun abhaikhai, namustun alakhai namustun akaey, namustun ajaey. (3)

O Lord, we salute You. You do not need clothes, no one can draw a picture of You, You have no body, nor You were born of a woman. (3)

Guru Nanak was born from a woman and did need clothes.

namustun ajatai, namustun apatai namustun amujbai, namustsut ajabai. (17)

O Lord, we salute You. You are Casteless and without lineage and religion. You are wonderfully Handsome Personality. (17)

Guru Nanak did have a lineage 2nd Nanak, 3rd Nanak etc.

adaisun adaisai, namustun abhaisai namustun nirdhamai, namustun nirbamai. (18)

O Lord, we salute You. You do not belong to any one country and are Formless. You have no particular home and no wife. (18)

Guru Nanak was the form of a human and lived in a home with a wife and had kids.

namsatsut devai, namustun abhaivai namustun ajanmai, namustun sobanmai. (21)

O Lord, we salute to You. You are the Light of Truth. No one knows Your secret. You do not take birth, Your color is beautiful. (21)

Guru Nanak did take birth.

Jaap Sahib will tell you all the other ways also. Just read Jaap Sahib and see what Guru Gobind Singh said about the issue.

Guru Nanak came to birth to show the light of God to the monogonous people. He spoke about the greatness of God , and didnt speak of his own greatness. Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj was the jyot of God but not acctually God incarnate. Also read JapJi Sahib to see what Guru Nanak laid out on this issue.

Im also part of the ocean. So are you and everyone else. Again Guru Nanak was the Jyot of God.

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