Why Be A Babbar And The Rest Which I Do Not Know Of?

[Haych Singh]

more jeevanwaleh singhs were needed

[khalistan_zindabaad]

there were gursikhs who kept links with all the jathebandis and those who did not and associated themselfs with just one jathebandi which was not the khalsa panth. you see this today. where there is now a thought amongst youth that amrit 4rm one amrit sanchaar or apparent jathebandi is somehow better than another, which is just pathetic. because then u dnt think ur taking amrit 4rm the panj pyare of guru ji but of panj gursikhs of the apparent jatha.

[Haych Singh]

there were gursikhs who kept links with all the jathebandis and those who did not and associated themselfs with just one jathebandi which was not the khalsa panth. you see this today. where there is now a thought amongst youth that amrit 4rm one amrit sanchaar or apparent jathebandi is somehow better than another, which is just pathetic. because then u dnt think ur taking amrit 4rm the panj pyare of guru ji but of panj gursikhs of the apparent jatha.

to be honesst i dont really see that i think the youth are united if anything

[khalistan_zindabaad]

i agree.

i agree.

i agree.

[Rocky_Singh]

i agree.

i agree.

i agree.

ive heard a speeeeeeh by sant baba jarnail singh ji cussing babbars........?

wat dat bout

[London-Singh]

What are you talkin about?Zaffarwal was nice to everyone during that time and many jujahroo's saw him as a gursikh but he played a game with the sikh panth and went to the indian side. KCF singhs of zaffarwal were true to the movement and many of them died for khalistan, does it mean KCF zaffarwal group was bad, NOO. Singhs have been shaheed from zaffarwal KCF,they trusted zaffarwal, they just didn't know what he was playing. About AKJ and babbar khalsa, there were many singhs who weren't AKJ and still joined babbar khalsa like singhs from kastiwal. The singh on bottom was shaheed and he was part of KCF Zaffarwal and his brother as well. About the char jujahroo jatha bandi, they didn't fight or break up, it was divided in to areas.

NO WAY! Is that true? We are both talking about Wassan Singh Zaffarwal, currently in Pakistan, arent we? I never knew he collaborated with the Indian government! Where did you find that out from?!!! Can you prove it?

On the subject of the Babbars: there is a lot of bad things written about them, not in newspapers (to be expected), but in books about the Sikh Freedom movement. I have read that their founder, Sukhdev Singh Babbar , QUOTE: "tried to kill Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale, and as a result were responsible for his forced ejection from Guru Nanak Niwas (part of Sri Harmandir Sahib complex) on the night of 15th December 1983."

"Accused of deserting Bhindranwale, in fact they were never with him. At one point, they were ASKING for arms against him"

Can somebody please tell me whether this is TRUE? How could an organisation committed to freedom for the Sikhs try to KILL BHINDRANWALE?

At another point it states that "the Babbars, which was a group that numbered thrity at the time, escaped Darbar Sahib on the night of 1st June (1984), before the serious fighting began"

I HAVE WANTED TO KNOW FOR A LONG TIME WHETEHER THIS IS TRUE OR NOT. Speaking to AKJ members doesnt help, because they idolise Sukhdev Singh Babbar and would never tolerate such a thought.

On the face of it it looks like there could be some truth in it: apparently the Babbars were formed solely for defending the Panth against the fake nirankaris (Shaheed Bhai Fauja Singh and his jatha made a big sacrifice for the kaum), but never for Khalistan. Many Babbar Khalsa members were former Naxalites, meaning they were communist and saw Hindustan as their motherland which they would never tolerate breaking up. WADAWA SINGH BABBAR is anmed as a fomer naxalite.

Also, I read a leaflet printed by babbar Khalsa/AKJ which said that most people have heard of the sacrifice that Sant Bhindranwale made for his kaum, but they dont know much about the contribution made by Babbar Khalsa.

ALTHOUGH I ADMIT THIS WASNT AN INFLAMMATORY STATEMENT, it offended me that the author should have to denigrate Bhindranwale in this sense.

SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME IF WHAT I HAVE READ IS TRUE! I DONT KNOW WHO TO TRUST ANYMORE!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

[ETCH]

jarnail singh bhindrawale called sukdev singh babbar " shucha sukha" as in truthfull sukha the storys about trying to murder sant ji or just rumors that are trying to split up the panth and call divisions sant bhindrawale talked about these kind of antics alot in his speeches

[London-Singh]

jarnail singh bhindrawale called sukdev singh babbar " shucha sukha" as in truthfull sukha the storys about trying to murder sant ji or just rumors that are trying to split up the panth and call divisions sant bhindrawale talked about these kind of antics alot in his speeches

Thats good.

But what about Zaffarwal? Was he really an agent? IT CANT BE!

[harwinder84]

im not sure if he's an agent or not.......i've also heard tat zafarwal was in the jail with ac room n also tv.......is the same zafarwal or some1 else?

[Harmeet_Singh]

there still are some chardi kala babbars but have beeen taged as terrorists, but ive heard of alot of chardi kala babbars in pakistan and canada