Mohinder Singh Sdo ( The New Kala Afgaan )

[sunny_love_kirtan]

GOT THIS MESSAGE FROM SHABAD GURBANI GROUP, POSTED BY A MEMBER AND AFTER READING I THOUGHT THATI SHUD SHARE IT WITH U PEOPLE.

ITS TOO MUCH

JUZ READ CAREFULLY

"waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh

pyari sadh sangat ji,main kafi din tak soch reha si ke kuch na likhya jave ehna nawe challe group(shabad vartara) bare

par fer jad vee ehna di koi cassete sunda haan,mainu bahut dukh hunda hai ki sade wich kis tara de manukh paida ho gaye han,

thoda jeha gurbani da gyan ki ho janda hai,bas enjh japda hai ki ehna ne brahm gyan di upadhi prapar kar layi hai te hun

duniya nu sikhaya jave.

eh haal ik nawe challe group shabad vartara da vaikhiya gaya hai,ehna ne internet utte takriban 8GB data upload kar rakhiya hai,

kyon ki mainu kirtan sarvan karna achacha

lagda hai ,te main sara data download kar liya hai.

bahut achacha lagiaya jado main ehna da kirtan servan kita,bahut vishwas vi jagia ki koi sikhi wichoo prachar ta kar rahe han.

kuch din ta servan karda reha,par kadi kadi ehna di cassette wich kuch nindanyog shabad vee aye,per main ignore karda reha.

jado 10-12 CDs serven kitian ta ik pakh samne aya ki,eh vee kite RSS de kite pulende ta nahi?

Gurbani di viakhyaa theek karde ne,par ehna ne lagda hai,sikhi naal jude itihaas nu khatam karan da bida chukiya hoya hai.

har cassette wich tusi vekho ge ki kise na kise bramgyani nu ja sikhi naal judia raho reets nu nindya hai.

jive ki

1)Bhan baba budha ji bare bolde ne ki oh kehde sant sant?jehde guru nanak sahib nu mile san,

te guru granth sahib wich di ehna bare koi jikar hi nahi milda ,so eh ta jhoothi kahani GURUDWARA sahib wich di dasi ja

rahi hai.--vekho pahul khande dhar CD No 1401

2)sh guru nanak sahib ji di koi bhi sakhi uplabhd nahi hai te ajj kal hindostan de gurudwara sahib wich guru nanak

sahib da itihaas sunaya ja reha hai,jo ik ik moorkhta ho rahi hai,assi sirf akal purakh naal judna hai,guru sahib naal nahi.

--vekho dharam CD 2 ate 3

3)sidh gost bani guru nanak sahib di apni bani hai jo ki gurudwara sahib wich paath karan de yog nahi,par sade sikh bhai moorkhta

kari ja rahe han.'

---vekho dharam CD no4

4)Gur pratap sooraj ik jooth da pulanad hai,jo ki sikh moorkhta kari ja rahe han.--vekho vedio chigao2 on shabad vartara

5)Bhai gurdas sahib ji di bani ik sikhan nu moorkhta de khooh wich sooti ja rahi hai,eh koi guru granth sahib di kunji nahi,

es file nu main attatch ve kar reha han,jara pad laina.---vekho dharam CD No 1

hun tusi app hi dasu sh guru arjan dev ji naal beh ke jihna ne Sh guru granth sahib da sarroop tyar karwaya hove,oh ki gyan to heena hove ga?

jihna ne guru di bakhish nu maaniya hove,ki ehna de mutabak hove ga,guru sahib ta je kisi chaldei kidi utte nagar mar dinde si ta us nu vi

tin lokan da gyan ho janda si,fer eh manukh kis tara likh reha hai.

-----

es to elawa hor pata nahi ki ki bol chukiya hai,mainu haje baki cassetta sraven karniya baki han,par lagda ha ewe waste hi kise di

augan fol reha howan ga,per tusi apni jan kari bare jaroor ehna nu sun ke dekhna te faisa karna.

Ki main puchhda haan sardar ji sad itihaas ena kamjor hai ki tusi kise bare anap shanap bak deo?mainu ta eh manukh dooja kala afgan lag reha hai.

jis ne RSS naal ral ke ,eh sara itihaas nu jado putan di koshish kiti hai.

ik hor gal suno ehna bajoorgan di jad main vedio dekhi ta pata lagya ki do char rangi dadi(beard) wale dholki waja rahe han,

te kuchh bibiya siroo chuni utari ,bhajan gayan kar rahiyaan han. kuch hor search karn te pata chalya ki enha bajoorgan da naam

SDO mohinder singh hai,te america de wich jyada apne program karde han.

ladgad SDo sahib sade kaum wich ik hi brahm gyani han jo ki saari duniya(sikhi) nu sach te jhooth da vartara kar ke das rahe han.

bahut shram aundi hai,ehna bare likhde nu,

Rab hi jane rab diyan bataan.

ehna di chalayi site vekho http://www.svaudio.org/

ehna di prasansa bare vi vekho thalle dite link utte.

http://www.akj.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1...475d0494985f5f5

waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh "

[akjforever]

Veera, can you post the gist of the what you posted in English? I couldn't make out what the post was saying.

[Khalsa_Girl_1]

i dont even know abt the FIRST kaalaa afgaan..

i ask my mom and dad all the time...but nooooooo

they say its nothing for me to know

and can the first post please be put into English... it would be most appreciated

so what does kaalaa agfaan mean? :D

a black afgani? :D

(NO OFFENSE...seriously..no offense..)

sorry if i offended anyone

[akjforever]

Info on Kala:

http://panthkhalsa.org/kala/kala.php

[Revolutionary]

i dont even know abt the FIRST kaalaa afgaan..

i ask my mom and dad all the time...but nooooooo

they say its nothing for me to know

get me! typical rents

then they compliain y u duno anything EMI!

[sunny_love_kirtan]

[JaMdooT]

Ok guys,

I read through and simply put it all in English, hopefully it will help some of you guys to understand the issue that the poster is raising:

"waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh

Dear sadh sangat,

I have been thinking since a few days that I wouldn’t write about these new shabad vatara groups. But whenever I listen to their cassettes, I get disheartened thinking that we have such “Manmukhs” among us who after studying Gurbani, seem to believe that they can justify everything and start preaching their own ways. This is the state of a recently originated group so called “Shabad Vatara”. They have uploaded almost 8Gb data on internet, their kirtan seemed to be pretty good but their cassettes have some offensive material.

(The writer is expressing his opinion if they are somehow connected to RSS, he believes that they do good gurbani vichar but might want to alter Sikh history)

har cassette wich tusi vekho ge ki kise na kise bramgyani nu ja sikhi naal judia raho reets nu nindya hai.

(not sure about this part )

For example:

1) They speak about Baba Budha ji and say that he wasn’t a saint, he met Guru Nanak sahib and isn’t mentioned in Shri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Thus, this is a false story – Ref [ CD No1401]

2) They haven’t uploaded any of Guru Nanak’s sakhi and apparently nowadays, in gurdwaras in India, Guru Nanak ji’s history is being told, and this is foolishness. We are supposed to connect to Akal Purakh and not with Guru Sahib. –Ref [dharam CD 2 and 3]

3) The Sidh Gost Bani is Guru Nanak Sahib’s bani, which isn’t appropriate to be read in Gurudwaras, our Sikhs are being foolish.

---Ref [dharam CD no4]

4) Gur Pratap suraj is false; it’s again foolishness by Sikhs.

--- Ref [chigao2 on shabad vartara]

5) The bani of bhai Gurdas ji is shoving Sikhs back to the dark ages, its not a summary of Guru Granth Sahib.

Note- I have uploaded this file, please do read over

--- Ref [dharam CD No 1]

Now you guys can think about it, the one (Bhai Gurdas ji) who help organized Shri Guru Granth Sahib along with Guru Arjun Dev Ji, isn’t an ordinary being, he had abundance of knowledge.

( ain’t too sure how to put these in words)

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jihna ne guru di bakhish nu maaniya hove,ki ehna de mutabak hove ga,guru sahib ta je kisi chaldei kidi utte nagar mar dinde si ta us nu vi

tin lokan da gyan ho janda si,fer eh manukh kis tara likh reha hai.

-----

es to elawa hor pata nahi ki ki bol chukiya hai,mainu haje baki cassetta sraven karniya baki han,par lagda ha ewe waste hi kise di

augan fol reha howan ga,per tusi apni jan kari bare jaroor ehna nu sun ke dekhna te faisa karna.

Other than above mentioned statements, they have might have other accounts of misrepresentation of Sikhi. (The writer hasn’t gone through all the cassettes but is encouraging everyone to see for themselves, the extent of falsification)

Ki main puchhda haan sardar ji sad itihaas ena kamjor hai ki tusi kise bare anap shanap bak deo?mainu ta eh manukh dooja kala afgan lag reha hai.

jis ne RSS naal ral ke ,eh sara itihaas nu jado putan di koshish kiti hai.

ik hor gal suno ehna bajoorgan di jad main vedio dekhi ta pata lagya ki do char rangi dadi(beard) wale dholki waja rahe han,

te kuchh bibiya siroo chuni utari ,bhajan gayan kar rahiyaan han. kuch hor search karn te pata chalya ki enha bajoorgan da naam SDO mohinder singh hai,te america de wich jyada apne program karde han.

(Writer is trying to connects the dots and seeing this as an act against Sihki, and making comparision to Gurbachan Singh “Kala Afghana” and RSS)

ladgad SDo sahib sade kaum wich ik hi brahm gyani han jo ki saari duniya(sikhi) nu sach te jhooth da vartara kar ke das rahe han.

bahut shram aundi hai,ehna bare likhde nu,

Rab hi jane rab diyan bataan.

Over here, pretty much mocking Mohinder Singh SDo, not sure if I want to translate that.. so I’ll let it pass

Visit their website --- http://www.svaudio.org/

Check out the link below as well:

http://www.akj.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1...475d0494985f5f5

waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh "

p.s - I have tried translating but if I misinterpreted anything, my apologies...

Hopefully it helps...

[sunny_love_kirtan]

great work

well done paaji

u worked hard.

[JaMdooT]

koi naa jio,

ur Belcome