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AKJ are Singh Sabhiyas and are following Khalsa Maryadha in it’s original form without all the innovations and deviations which have crept into the Khalsa Panth over the centuries. Eating meat is clearly against Gurmat. Yet SGPC has no problem with this barbaric practice. SGPC’s maryadha changes to any direction to which the winds of politics takes it to. The original SGPC maryadha clearly stated the the Bhog should be done at Mundhavni, but later on under pressure SGPC changed its maryadha and wrote that the Bhog can be done at Mundhavni or Ragmala. I'm not trying to start another debate here, but clearly this shows how SGPC's maryadha is subject to change under political pressure.

International Akali, since you follow the Kala Afghana-Ghagha Sikhi, can you tell me what is your stance on Dasam Banis in our Nitnem which Kala Aghanists are against, but SGPC supports? Are you going to go with SGPC’s stance on this or Kala Afghana-Ghagha’s stance?

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International Akali, since you follow the Kala Afghana-Ghagha Sikhi, can you tell me what is your stance on Dasam Banis in our Nitnem which Kala Aghanists are against, but SGPC supports? Are you going to go with SGPC's stance on this or Kala Afghana-Ghagha's stance?

FATEH!!

Seriously, why do you have to attack the person without a proper basis??

He is so right in saying that if these issues prevail..SIKHI will never unite. do you get what heis trying to say??

and i have a request to make..does anyone have akj and sgpc rehit maryada in pdf form??? Pleaseeee Pleaseeeeeeeee find one for me.

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AKJ are Singh Sabhiyas and are following Khalsa Maryadha in it’s original form without all the innovations and deviations which have crept into the Khalsa Panth over the centuries. Eating meat is clearly against Gurmat. Yet SGPC has no problem with this barbaric practice. SGPC’s maryadha changes to any direction to which the winds of politics takes it to. The original SGPC maryadha clearly stated the the Bhog should be done at Mundhavni, but later on under pressure SGPC changed its maryadha and wrote that the Bhog can be done at Mundhavni or Ragmala. I'm not trying to start another debate here, but clearly this shows how SGPC's maryadha is subject to change under political pressure.

International Akali, since you follow the Kala Afghana-Ghagha Sikhi, can you tell me what is your stance on Dasam Banis in our Nitnem which Kala Aghanists are against, but SGPC supports? Are you going to go with SGPC’s stance on this or Kala Afghana-Ghagha’s stance?

oh brother...

First of all i want to tell you something... i dont think you even know the difference between SGPC and Akal Takht....

Secondly as per Akaal Takht Maryada... 3 nitnem Bani are: Jaap Sahib, Japji Sahib, Swaiye

Whatever is agreed upon in the panth is bani... i dont understand what your trying to get at... i am trying to stress that if everyone just follow Panthic Maryada, Khalsa Panth will be in Chardi Kala and we could do whateever we wanted...

Now I dont want to get a Warning on Meat Issue... and get into a debate with you panth dhokees....

Give me your adress and name im going to report you to vedenti too...

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But according to the Kala Afghanists Jaap Sahib, Sawaiya and Choupi are not the krit of Guru Gobind Singh Jee. But according to Akal Takht's Panthic Maryadha these are the Krit of Guru Gobind Singh Jee. So which is it, do you stand with Kala Afghan-Ghaga on this one or with the Panth?

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But according to the Kala Afghanists Jaap Sahib, Sawaiya and Choupi are not the krit of Guru Gobind Singh Jee. But according to SGPC or Panthic Maryadha these are the Krit of Guru Gobind Singh Jee. So which is it, do you stand with Kala Afghan-Ghaga on this one or with the Panth?

I dont understand why you put Gurbux Singh Kala Afghana and Inder Singh Ghugga together...

kala afghana-ghagga?

As i have said several times Panthic Maryada is supreme... Prof Inder Singh Ghagga has said on radio before as well that jaap sahib, sawaiye and chopai are bani as per panthic maryada he accepts it...

In the debate he says whatever is in Sikh reyat maryada he accepts... and then why you keep saying reffering to him as kala-afghana-ghagga...

What about you... what about the meat issue... what right do you have to go against panthic maryada on meat issue... you first get your facts straight then go on talking about someone else and how they dont accept certain tings in panthic maryada...

Look at your self before you judge anyone... On your next post please say whether you are with panth or not on meat issue and per sri akaal takht sahib maryada... if you are not then you are Panth Dhokee... Dont go anywhere else and changbe the subject because that is what your doing

If you are not im going to send a letter to vedenti... put your name and adress.. i will come to your house and deliever it.. i live in toronto area

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Inder Singh Ghagha has said that he supports Kala Afghana and agrees with him. What conclusion do you expect us to arrive at?

If Inder Singh Ghagha fully agrees with the Panthic Maryadha, then please explain to me why he refers to Naam-Japna as “Gorakh Dhanda” when the Panthic Maryadha clearly says on article four of the Maryadha that a Sikh should do Naam Japna.

“1. A Sikh should wake up in the ambrosial hours (three hours before the dawn), take bath and, concentrating his/her thoughts on One Immortal Being, repeat the name Waheguru (Wondrous Destroyer of darkness).”

So do you stand with Inder Singh Ghagha who calls this “Gorakh Danda” or are you going to stand with the Panth on this one which is clearly a part of the official Akal Takht Maryadha?

BTW, I live in Windsor Ontario. But I whenever I visit Bramton I visit Tapoban Sahib. So come to Tapoban next time I am there and deliver to me the letter.

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Inder Singh Ghagha has said that he supports Kala Afghana and agrees with him. What conclusion do you expect us to arrive at?

If Inder Singh Ghagha fully agrees with the Panthic Maryadha, then please explain to me why he refers to Naam-Japna as “Gorakh Dhanda” when the Panthic Maryadha clearly says on article four of the Maryadha that a Sikh should do Naam Japna.

“1. A Sikh should wake up in the ambrosial hours (three hours before the dawn), take bath and, concentrating his/her thoughts on One Immortal Being, repeat the name Waheguru (Wondrous Destroyer of darkness).”

So do you stand with Inder Singh Ghagha who calls this “Gorakh Danda” or are you going to stand with the Panth on this one which is clearly a part of the official Akal Takht Maryadha?

BTW, I live in Windsor Ontario. But I whenever I visit Bramton I visit Tapoban Sahib. So come to Tapoban next time I am there and deliver to me the letter.

ok first of all go and read the article... you are saying what you have been told...

You are avoiding my question again about the meat issue you have changed the topic again...

Its not hard to answer... In the video he said if one wants to do waheguru gurmantar they can but he rather read bani... there is nothing wrong with that is there??? Reading Gurbani isnt a bad thing?

Secondly He reffered to Gorakh DHanda as repition if we jus repeat one word and dont read gurbani at all....

Does it say how much time to do it in the morning? We do Waheguru jaap to get us ready for our day... We should remember the name of akaal purkh everywhere not just in the morning... it is to get our brain going and to focus on that one path.... he agreed with what he said as per panthic maryada.. it has no time on there

or you on a mission or something????

If he says not to read Gurbani i understand but what he is encourging is to read bani follow panthic maryada as per Sri akaal Takht sahib...

Ok whats your name you forgot to put that... you could be anyone... ill go to tapoban and then go looking for who?

i need to tel vedenti your name im not gonna put S SINGH on the Hukumnama... there is a countless S SINGH's in the world

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If you are not im going to send a letter to vedenti... put your name and adress.. i will come to your house and deliever it.. i live in toronto area.
i need to tel vedenti your name im not gonna put S SINGH on the Hukumnama... there is a countless S SINGH's in the world

Vedanti tera mama lagda?? Why are you making fun of hukamnama?? Stay on topic.. don't jump around !

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First of all, I don’t claim to follow the SGPC Maryadha and put everyone else down by saying you are following anti panthic maryadha. The Maryadha I follow clearly forbids me from eating meat and I stick with it. But since you are beating the drum about how everyone should follow Akal Takht Maryadha then why don’t you and Ghagha Sahib also follow hukams in the Panthic Maryadha such as doing Naam Simran of “Waheguru”. This is not an optional, but a hukam in the Maryadha you claim to follow.

You yourself claim that Naam Simran is not doing simran of Vaheguru, but instead it refers to Gubani. But Akal Takht Maryadha is clearly doing hukam to you to do Naam Simran of Vaheguru everyday. So who are you going to follow, Sardar Inder Singh Ghagha or are you going to follow the Akal Takht?

And my name is Sher Singh, I live in Windsor Ontario. Next time I am in Bramton, you can visit me at Tapoban and personally deliver to me the letter.

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First of all, I don’t claim to follow the SGPC Maryadha and put everyone else down by saying you are following anti panthic maryadha. The Maryadha I follow clearly forbids me from eating meat and I stick with it. But since you are beating the drum about how everyone should follow Akal Takht Maryadha then why don’t you and Ghagha Sahib also follow hukams in the Panthic Maryadha such as doing Naam Simran of “Waheguru”. This is not an optional, but a hukam in the Maryadha you claim to follow.

You yourself claim that Naam Simran is not doing simran of Vaheguru, but instead it refers to Gubani. But Akal Takht Maryadha is clearly doing hukam to you to do Naam Simran of Vaheguru everyday. So who are you going to follow, Sardar Inder Singh Ghagha or are you going to follow the Akal Takht?

And my name is Sher Singh, I live in Windsor Ontario. Next time I am in Bramton, you can visit me at Tapoban and personally deliver to me the letter.

Dont worry you will get it... just make sure i get full safety there... i dont want anything happening to me...

is reading gurbani a bad thing? i think you dont want me to read gurbani do you? is it bad that i read gurbani sher singh? Gurbani marre hai? oh balle terai...

oh bhrawa I do follow panthic maryada.. i do waheguru the jaap in the morning and do it on my free time.... or repeat bani which is memorized... like i said before it is too get you started in the morning... befoe nitnem banian

but yet you still dont follow akal takht maryada...

who are you to say you doint follow panthic maryada... too bad we have vedenti in korsi if it was someone who had some sort of budhhee something would have been done by now

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When did I say not to read Bani? Why are you putting words in my mouth? It seems like you think in terms of black or white. So according to YOU, “I said” if you do Naam Simran of Vaheguru, you cannot do Gurbani Paat? When the heck did I say that? I don’t know how you interpreted that out of my posts, but it seems like you are trying to twist what I wrote. I’ve noticed this a lot with people in your Ghagha-Jeeowala camp. You guys take out of context the words of others and twist & misinterpret it to suit your personal agendas. This is dishonesty, and a dishonest person cannot be a Sikh of Guru Gobind Singh Jee. People who are so deceitful cannot preach the truth that they pretend to preach.

Ghagha himself says he does not believe in doing Simran of Vaheguru, yet he claims to follow the Akal Takht Maryadha. This is hypocritical of him considering the fact that the Akal Takht Maryadha clearly says for a Sikh to do Simran of Vaheguru everyday in the morning. Mr. International Akali, so either admit that Ghagha is wrong or admit that Akal Takht is wrong. You cannot put your legs in two different boats. It is either one or the other considering that is the only option you have also given to others here who don’t follow the Akal Takht 100%. So which is it, Akal Takht or Ghagha?

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