Why I Think I Should Cut Hair

[singh2k]

you've taken my words the wrong way.

"turban just makes me look bad, for example if i go out to a party and have a drink, people stare and the image of a turban guy drinking affects the whole community, i cant take that responsibility. its not me"

What I meant was, I don't deserve the turban. its for those people who are true sikhs from in and out. I'm the one who makes the turban look bad, NOT the turban making me look bad.

anyways, people are fast at judging, without even thinkin about how hard things are going for me. hey khalsa productions, thanks for the comment, now atleast i know theres someone out there that cares enough to chop my head off.

close this forum, i dont look forward to putting up any more comments, since theyre just useless.

Finally, i wish it was you in Scotland instead of that 15 year old kid :D

The other 17 year old boy had his hair cut before also, but he had regrown it afterwards. seems like you would be the same person who would wish him death before he cut it.

[Guest s133k_s1kh]

If you already knew what was gonna happen here why did you start a thread in the first place. Why are you wasting time here, go ahead with whatever you want to do. :TH:

Of all the things that have been writen by sangat, you could see just one line talkin about a 15 year old kid ??

as i said, go ahead and cut them man, why argue here. it is very clear u have made a decision so just do it.

[Guest Khalsa Productions]

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[4givme4mysins]

Ek Onkar Satnam

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

A Singh a sikh of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is seen as a lion, please imagine a image of strong Lion with his flowing hair which makes up his crown, king like appearence, now imagine someone shaving it all off, he will look the same as a big household cat, i think it would look very stupid. As the hair on a Lions face is natural so is the way in which it grows on us guys, it is how Lord God intended it to be, you can cut off your hair but it will still grow back, your body and your sprit requires it and God wants you to keep it, it is a gift, accept it, dont let these little obsticles affect you too much, remember IT IS GOD who is testing each one of us. I would rather be the single Lion that become like all the other sheep.

Forgive me if i have said anything that has offended you.

Gurfatehji

"I have no name"

[buddasingh]

I live in the US, I'm 18 and really confused with religion for the past couple of months. I don't have anyone to look up to in my family as someone who I want to be like. I've been thinking about it day & night, done research and still doing it.

Everything I'm going to say will sound like an excuse to a gur sikh, and will sound reasonable to everyone else.

I don't think I'm a sikh, besides that I have a turban. People stare at me, I dont care, people make comments, I dont care, people laugh and point, I really could care less. Its not a big deal, unless if I make it big. It feels like I'm the only sikh in town sometimes, even in the gurudawa, theres is usually a mona behind the guru granth sahib.

My brother is 27, he's my image. It seems like everything I do, he does the same. Same attitude, same actions, same thinking, which really irrates me since it is something you wouldn't respect. Hes a sardar, a weird one. Prays whenever he likes to, the other day he started yelling out the japji sahib at 1am before sleeping in the praying room, which really annoyed the )#% outta me. The next day I found porn in his computer, haha. He's always on the computer. One day he prays, the next day he doesnt, its hard to understand him. He has desires of doing things a sikh can't really do, such as partying and hanging out and tries to avoid it since he knows it would be hard to fit in, and stays away from outdoor activities.

My main point is, I can't keep up with my image like this anymore. Being a sardar isnt me. I respect everyone who keeps it, but I dont see any point in doing so. Things weren't the same as they were 300 years back, and if guru nanak was here today, he would probably ask all the sikhs why they are in america commiting sins and so on.

If the religion is really for me, and if I commit a mistake by cutting my hair, then hopefully waheguru will do kirpa and turn me back into a sikh.

I won't be taking any actions yet, I will be attending the Sikh Surat in NYC first, and after that the decision is in my hands. Main reason why I'm taking my time is, I have already spoken to my parents and they have given me the green light. Before that, I was in depression and extremly confused, as my brother had told me that if I cut my hair, I wouldn't be known as my fathers son anymore, I would be looked at, people would make more fun of me and so on.

Then later on I spoke with my dad, my dad told me that I'm old enough to make my decision, and whatever decision I chose to follow, if it makes me happy- it will be the right decision.

So after talking to my dad, a great load of burden got off my head, and now I'm just taking my time to look into the religion as much as I can.

I'd appreciate if people would comment on this and let me know their views.

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You’re an adult. You come to a Sikh site and broadly implicate all those with dastars to justify your wavering self-esteem. What in the world does your brothers behavior have to do with the intrinsic value of Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s dastar? To suggest an analogy is insulting. There is obviously more to your internal struggle than you let on. I’m sorry to say, but you invoke pity at best, not empathy.

You say you respect everyone who wears a dastar? Do you really? Judging by the tone of your posts, it sounds more like you can’t live up to it and therefore must justify illogical reasons against it. Your stance is nothing original, intelligent or new amongst drop-outs.

If you overcome your personal issues kid, I say use your head… Which is the dogma and which is freedom? You need not be a research scholar to know a few basics about sikhi and compare it to the masses around you to realize which is really the false religion. Generally it comes down to a question of self esteem and to your credit you’ve revealed, albeit inadvertently, that as an issue.

If you’re going to be any less than a star, then please do seriously consider weeding yourself out. But know you aren’t kidding yourself or anyone else about the hypocrisy of your reasoning. Be honest with yourself as you go out the door. It’ll be like “finding porn on your own computer” and surrendering to it.

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Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

The head or the hair?

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

[natsilahk]

I don't think I'm a sikh, besides that I have a turban. People stare at me, I dont care, people make comments, I dont care, people laugh and point, I really could care less. Its not a big deal, unless if I make it big. It feels like I'm the only sikh in town sometimes, even in the gurudawa, theres is usually a mona behind the guru granth sahib.

My brother is 27, he's my image. It seems like everything I do, he does the same. Same attitude, same actions, same thinking, which really irrates me since it is something you wouldn't respect. Hes a sardar, a weird one. Prays whenever he likes to, the other day he started yelling out the japji sahib at 1am before sleeping in the praying room, which really annoyed the )#% outta me. The next day I found porn in his computer, haha. He's always on the computer. One day he prays, the next day he doesnt, its hard to understand him. He has desires of doing things a sikh can't really do, such as partying and hanging out and tries to avoid it since he knows it would be hard to fit in, and stays away from outdoor activities.

My main point is, I can't keep up with my image like this anymore. Being a sardar isnt me. I respect everyone who keeps it, but I dont see any point in doing so. Things weren't the same as they were 300 years back, and if guru nanak was here today, he would probably ask all the sikhs why they are in america commiting sins and so on.

I think I fit into your category as "everyone else" simply because I am not that religious of a person. As far as you saying your brother is your image, and he holds himself from being "normal" is kind of foolish.

I'm a Sardar, I live in the US, I got to college here. I was born and raised in an urban city.

I am Vice President of my Sikh Students Association.

I was lead point guard for Varsity Basketball in high school (with a patka).

I was starting Running back for High School football.

I am leader/choreographer of our Breakdancing/Hip-Hop Club (RAM squad)

I was lead choreographer for our Bhangra group.

I was a member of our RAAS team.

I am leader of one of our political organizations on campus (not going to tell you if its Democrat or Republican )

I am the secretary of our Undergraduate Law Students Assosciation Program

and the list could go on....

Do i commit sins? Yes, but I believe every human does (especially at our age). Do I hope to someday become a better sikh? Of course, but as of right now the philosophy often goes over my head.

Can you be "normal" and still be a Sardar? I think I'm the definition of it.

Everyone has their own goals of sikhi, just because you found one sardar(your brother) who has trouble being a sardar and occassionaly does bad things does not mean his eventual goals are foolish.

Most of us keep our kesh to have our foot in the door, to keep the identity in tact.

And i think it helps out alot of people when keshdhari sikhs join events which are mainstream, so the mainstream public does not view Sikhs as some barbaric people.

As for your last statement, lets not put words into Guru Nanak's mouth. We can all assume what he "might" have said in today's time, but we all know what he "did" say.

If you honestly believe that cutting your hair will help you become "normal" and fit in, then go ahead and do it. I can tell you from first hand experience that most of society still deems me normal compared to some FOBS who cut their hair as soon as they land in America.

What else do you want to know about? Getting girls?

We all go through desires of what a Sikh cant do. It's all about keeping your foot in the door.

Your 18 years old, your father and brother have all went and done the exact same path that your now thinking of. Give it more time and consideration.

As far as girls are concerned (since that usually is the main issue when your 18 years old), I've found that by making yourself even more different than the rest, they will remember you more.

Take it, a group of friends is sitting around in a circle (say for a project in class). The teacher instructs two groups to combine to form one to finish the project. So your group, gets a bunch of girls in it now. Now, if your confident with your look, and your the funniest/nicest/charmful guy in the group, all the girls will always remember you because of the pugh. Otherwise, you look like any ordinary white/brown guy to them. They'll forget you the next day. But, because of the pugh they will come back weeks later and be like "YOU REMEMBER THAT PROJECT WE DID". Then it's all game from there.

For everytime someone brings a bad reason to wear a pugh, you can always flip it and use it correctly, as long as you build up your confidence.

You are right as far as things not being the same as 300 years ago, but is it not right to keep our foot in the door. That is what your brother is doing. He is 27 years old, give him some slack. Not everyone is born with the mind of a gur sikh. Most of us wish we were, that way our minds would be at ease, but unfortunately, that is not the case.

This is us, this is our identity. This is who we are. Regardless of other sins, never forget your look.

Get more involved with Sikh events and helping out other Sikhs (does not necessarily have to be religious events).

[Akhoza]

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[singh2k]

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I've noticed that there is one part no one answers to, why did Sikhs move to america in the first place?

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