Giving Money When Matha Teking

[gurmukh_singh]

i read in a book once that sant isher singh used to be against putting money in the gholak. he used to say bring flowers or something that will make guru's darbaar look nice or food for langar. i guess that might have been to stop dodgy commitees though ill have to read the book again i suppose to confirm it though

[Saahiba]

I think it would make more sense to make contributions to the gurdwara somewhere else (such as by the entry of the prayer hall) instead in front of the Guru Granth Sahib.

Can someone please explain why I am wrong?

Ik ong kar satgur parsad!

I feel there is no difference. On the contrary.. let us look at it this ways :

We put in our contribution and then do Matha Tehk.. only goes to make our contribution humble and nothing bad about learning humility..

Bhul chuk maaf karni ji!

[Revolutionary]

I Fink we making a big issue out of Nothing. Its not even an issue..

Whats the problem if you're bowing to Guru Ji and a golak is between you.. its not exactly stopping your soul bowing down to Guru Ji - Thats YOU. Not The Golak!

I agree that giving money inside the darbar hall can be a distraction

You know.. *anything* can be a distraction if you want it to be

Because the full focus should be on praying and showing respect to the Guru Granth Sahib, not on giving money to the gurdwara as well

Again, that's the individual's problem rather than Sangat's problem. If you focus more on moeny than Guru Ji then that's your fault. It's like saying "Lets banish giving out Parshaad because it makes people focus more on that than Guru ji"..

[Khalsa Fauji]

Gurfateh!!

I was just reading the other thread about if Guru Ji was here in human form, and i was thinking if Guru Ji was then would you seriously go to your Guru empty handed? Would you not take something to offer. Even if it is 1 penny. We spend so much on ourselves it's not just about giving 10% give more when you can and if you can, we don't really need all the money we have. Our Guru has given us everything, shelter and food and so much more.

If the golak was outside somewhere how many people would just walk past it, i have seen golaks outside halls and people don't even look twice. When you matha tekh there is plenty of stuff infront of you so why you would feel as though your bowing to money i don't know. We need to be able to focus on Akaal Purukh at all times.

Please also remember Gurdwareh need money to run, don't think that all committees eat all the money because they don't. Gurdwareh have bills, and i have seen some hefty council tax bills for Gurdwareh.

Bhul Chuk Maaf!

Gurfateh!!

[Revolutionary]

Agrees ^^

[Fauja]

jus wanna add, sometimes sikhs don't give their daswandh (10% of their earnings).. giani thakur singh said that we shud stop comapling cuz muslims have to give 40%

[Guest Amrik$ingh]

^ so they should

LOL

[Khalsa Fauji]

Gurfateh!!

Muslims have to give 2.5%

The Compulsory Charity (Zakah)

In Islam, the true owner of everything is God, not man. People are given wealth as a trust from God. Zakah is worship and thanksgiving to God by supporting the poor, and through it one’s wealth is purified.. It requires an annual contribution of 2.5 percent of an individual’s wealth and assets. Therefore, Zakah is not mere “charity”, it is an obligation on those who have received their wealth from God to meet the needs of less fortunate members of the community. Zakah is used to support the poor, orphans, and widows, help those in debt, and, in olden times, to free slaves. (source: http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/3/)

Bhul Chuk Maaf!

Gurfateh!!

[Guest Papi]

I Fink we making a big issue out of Nothing. Its not even an issue..

Whats the problem if you're bowing to Guru Ji and a golak is between you.. its not exactly stopping your soul bowing down to Guru Ji - Thats YOU. Not The Golak!

I agree that giving money inside the darbar hall can be a distraction

You know.. *anything* can be a distraction if you want it to be

Because the full focus should be on praying and showing respect to the Guru Granth Sahib, not on giving money to the gurdwara as well

Again, that's the individual's problem rather than Sangat's problem. If you focus more on moeny than Guru Ji then that's your fault. It's like saying "Lets banish giving out Parshaad because it makes people focus more on that than Guru ji"..

[Jassika]

Gurfateh!!

I was just reading the other thread about if Guru Ji was here in human form, and i was thinking if Guru Ji was then would you seriously go to your Guru empty handed? Would you not take something to offer. Even if it is 1 penny. We spend so much on ourselves it's not just about giving 10% give more when you can and if you can, we don't really need all the money we have. Our Guru has given us everything, shelter and food and so much more.

If the golak was outside somewhere how many people would just walk past it, i have seen golaks outside halls and people don't even look twice. When you matha tekh there is plenty of stuff infront of you so why you would feel as though your bowing to money i don't know. We need to be able to focus on Akaal Purukh at all times.

Please also remember Gurdwareh need money to run, don't think that all committees eat all the money because they don't. Gurdwareh have bills, and i have seen some hefty council tax bills for Gurdwareh.

Bhul Chuk Maaf!

Gurfateh!!

no i didnt say it feels like your bowing to money but I just don't like the idea of including money which is a worldy material thing because at the gurdwara I like to think of a heavenly place without a need of money. and money to me more represents the fake world buuut its true there are a lot worse distractions that go on at gurdwaras too like the "show offs" in the sangat.

well it was just a thought that maybe the golak could be moved and still be as noticed and function (maybe even more if theres eyecatching posters explaining lil facts about how much the money helps)