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[Guest Papi]

Guru Guru Waheguru Guru Raam Daas Guru

sikhs have been given gurmantr which is waheguru and is the highest and best mantr to recite :lol:

[lowest of the low singhni]

Guru Guru Waheguru Guru Raam Daas Guru

sikhs have been given gurmantr which is waheguru and is the highest and best mantr to recite :lol:

The 'Guru Guru Waheguru Guru Raam Daas Guru' is a track sung by Bibi Snatam Kaur in one of her albums..

What if someone saying 'Guru Guru Waheguru Guru Raam Daas Guru' is saying it with more love that someone 'blindly' saying Waheguru, if we know what Guru Raam Daas Ji was practically the essence of Akaal Purakh Himself? We say Waheguru, but is it not possible for someone to live the life of a Sikh whilst reciting Raam/Har with devotion so that they also merge with Akaal Purakh?

Sorry for going off topic - I'm just not sure why you brought it up baba. Please enlighten me :| thank you.

~l~

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

[The Slave]

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KE FATEH

This Shabad is by Bhatt Gayandh in Svaiyay Mehl 5 on Pannaa 1402

vwihgurU vwihgurU vwihgurU vwih jIau ]

vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahi jeeo ||

Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o.

kvl nYn mDur bYn koit sYn sMg soB khq mw jsod ijsih dhI Bwqu Kwih jIau ]

kaval nain madhhur bain kott sain sa(n)g sobh kehath maa jasodh jisehi dhehee bhaath khaahi jeeo ||

You are lotus-eyed, with sweet speech, exalted and embellished with millions of companions. Mother Yashoda invited You as Krishna to eat the sweet rice.

dyiK rUpu Aiq AnUpu moh mhw mg BeI ikMknI sbd Jnqkwr Kylu pwih jIau ]

dhaekh roop ath anoop moh mehaa mag bhee ki(n)kanee sabadh jhanathakaar khael paahi jeeo ||

Gazing upon Your supremely beautiful form, and hearing the musical sounds of Your silver bells tinkling, she was intoxicated with delight.

kwl klm hukmu hwiQ khhu kaunu myit skY eIsu bMm´ü g´wnu D´wnu Drq hIAY cwih jIau ]

kaal kalam hukam haathh kehahu koun maett sakai ees ba(n)mya gyaan dhhyaan dhharath heeai chaahi jeeo ||

Death's pen and command are in Your hands. Tell me, who can erase it? Shiva and Brahma yearn to enshrine Your spiritual wisdom in their hearts.

siq swcu sRI invwsu Awid purKu sdw quhI vwihgurU vwihgurU vwihgurU vwih jIau ]1]6]

sath saach sree nivaas aadh purakh sadhaa thuhee vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahi jeeo ||1||6||

You are forever True, the Home of Excellence, the Primal Supreme Being. Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o. ||1||6||

Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KE FATEH

[Guest Papi]

Guru Guru Waheguru Guru Raam Daas Guru

sikhs have been given gurmantr which is waheguru and is the highest and best mantr to recite :lol:

The 'Guru Guru Waheguru Guru Raam Daas Guru' is a track sung by Bibi Snatam Kaur in one of her albums..

What if someone saying 'Guru Guru Waheguru Guru Raam Daas Guru' is saying it with more love that someone 'blindly' saying Waheguru, if we know what Guru Raam Daas Ji was practically the essence of Akaal Purakh Himself? We say Waheguru, but is it not possible for someone to live the life of a Sikh whilst reciting Raam/Har with devotion so that they also merge with Akaal Purakh?

Sorry for going off topic - I'm just not sure why you brought it up baba. Please enlighten me :| thank you.

~l~

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

bibi i didn't say that mantr was wrong :nihungsmile: i still do believe that waheguru gurmatr bears the MOST fruit than any other mantr there is :TH:

[The Slave]

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KE FATEH

Well oviosly its the most powerfull jio

but that does not mean we are not allowed to say any others mantras

The manra below is verry powerfull too but oviosly Waheguru mantra is more

Gobinday Mukhanday Udaray Aparay Harian Karian Nriamay Akamay

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KE FATEH

[lowest of the low singhni]

Why is saying Waheguru more powerful than saying something else with exactly the same meaning?

[Guest Papi]

read bhai gurdaas jee's vara to get answer to that question.

bhai gurdaas jee has made it crystal 'waheguru gurmantr hai, jup, hoaumai khoee'

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=5833

sikhi has 2 mantr's gurmantr and mool mantr. personally, i dont agree with anyone who says something else is "equally powerful" but hey watever floats your boat :TH:

[lowest of the low singhni]

Thanks for the vaar baba. The shabads below are just a few examples where Gurbani seems to tell us explicitly about the powers of Akaal Purakh's 'Name', using the example of Raam. So I thought maybe there was no difference between meditating Raam Raam, meditating Waheguru Waheguru and other things.

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=476

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=1300

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=527

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=1499

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=1589

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=1650

I don't want to argue - perhaps we will agree to disagree on this one.

[Guest Papi]

^^^ those shabads are open to interpretation, but bhai gurdaas jee leaves no doubt at all :lol:

as per taksaal, god's name is waheguru.

[Revolutionary]

as per taksaal, god's name is waheguru.

lol that quote above itself can be seen depending on interpretation 2 :lol:

a) Taksaal? What about Gurbani? I thought Gurbani was highest

b) God's name.. Not really, as you yourself said: Bhai Gurdas made it clear.. Wah + Guru ..ie: Wow to the bringer of light to darkness of ignorance. It's like saying your name is "wow-friend".

The Name doesn't matter. Gurmantar and "God's name" are different things. One is a mantar the other is something useless that people argue about

Some say Raam, Some say Allah

^^^By the way try interpreting that peice in a different way