stay united

[Gupt daasan daas]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

im really disturbed to hear all this seperation in sikhi. Its not only castes like jaat anymore, its everywhere. First we divide ourselves by majha, malwa, and doaba. Arent we all sikhs? Arent we all born at anandpur? Is anandpur not our pind?

As for castes, if we look in bani, theres more than enough proof to show castes are stupid. How is one man by work proffession higher than another man? Most of the so called"jaats" have never even done farming. And as for jathas, if someone asks u what religion are u, wat u gonna say? Akj, taksali, ananksari, what? Guru je made nothing, he made khalsa panth. I belive he did make damdami taksal, but it is a place to learn gurbani and gatka. It is not a sect of the khalsa panth. Akj in the beggining was not a jatha, it was a group of chardi kala singhs who went around and did kirtan. A nihang was a name for someone who was a ful time soldier of the khalsa, had no other job. Didint we all drink the same khanda ke pahul? Fine, there are some differences, like rag mala and mool mantar and kaakars, but, all sants got along. Sant gurbachan singh je khalsa bhindranwale, the 12th mukhi of damdami taksal, was very good freinds of bhia randheer singh je, the person who started the akhand keertan jatha( a keertasn group, nothing else). Sant je beat up his nepehew for goin to a raag mala debate and saying it is bani. Why? Cause if we divide ourselves, and fight between ourselves, how are we going to fight our oppresors. Be like those sant, who got along, even though they didnt agree on everything. Let the whole panth khalsa come under one nishan sahib, not nishan sahib of taksal, not nisha

n sahib of akj, but nishan sahib of Khalsa Panth. We all drink from the same baata for a reason. Let us all unite under one nishan sahib of the khalsa panth, become gurmukhs, and stop all this stupid, useless fighting between each other.

bhul chuk maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Dhoor721]

Gurfateh,

I agree 100000% with you veer ji!

Where I live, there are VERY few sikhs (barely 10 families), and so when I try to meet Sikhs from other places, I am usually disappointed in what I see. I have met Sikhs who refuse to talk to anyone who hasn't taken Amrit, and, on the flip side, I have met Sikhs who refuse to talk to anyone who has even kept their hair. The unfortunate part is that while we are fighting, we are also losing the war.

In case you're wondering "what war?" we must come to terms with the fact that we are always under attack from India. India spends MILLIONS of dollars trying to ruin the Khalsa image and kill Sikhs, and when they see Sikhs fighting other Sikhs, they are overjoyed. This is what the Indian government wants--Sikhs killing each other; it makes their job a helluva lot easier. As long as we are divided, Sikhs will continue to cut their hair and leave the path of the Guru (as can be seen in Punjab today), but as soon as we unite and realize that we are losing the war to stay alive against India, there is NO ONE who can stop us.

This is actually paraphrased from the speech of my good friend Sardar Navtej Singh Ji (Cleveland). He gave this speech at a youth samagam in Pittsburgh, and it will be online shortly on keertan.org...when it is, I'll be sure to let everyone know.

In any case, we need to forget about our castes, unite, and find our calling. Each person needs to decide how they want to contribute to Sikhi, whether it be writing a movie with a Sikh character or teaching your local community about Sikhi or writing a book about Operation Blue Star or SOMETHING...We have plenty of role models who have done

AMAZING things for the panth (i.e. Sikh Coalition, SMART, SikhToons, etc.). Forget about your "Jatt Pride," your "AKJ pride," and your "Ramgharia pride" and replace it with "Sikh pride." I know personally I have made it my goal to unite the 3 or 4 states in my area (Ohio, PA, West Virginia, etc) and its Sikh population, and recently we made a group called AKAAL (American Kirtan Alliance for Aspiring Leaders) and we hold samagams in different cities in the area every 2 months. After looking at this board for a while, a good example is Vicky Singh--look at all the websites he has made for the Sikh panth...what a great seva...

This is just my 2 cents...but I'm sick of seeing Sikhs fight between each other for STUPID reasons when we agree on 95% of the details...Let's not let 5% difference get us killed by India

[Dhoor721]

By the way, something else I forgot that irritates me the most...

While talking to someone recently, the topic of amrit came up, and this person proceeded to tell me that only AKJ amrit was real amrit. He said that people who take amrit from anyone except AKJ is not a Sikh and these type of people are what hurt Sikhi...now after hearing this, I began to think, what's next? Are we gonna have caste-based Amrit? I can picture it now: "No, you can't do kirtan...you're Amrit is Khatri-Amrit, not Jatt-Amrit"

::Shudders::

Amrit is Amrit! Don't discrimate against your own people!

[moorakh mugadh]

Let us all unite under one nishan sahib of the khalsa panth, become gurmukhs, and stop all this stupid, useless fighting between each other.

bhul chuk maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

TIME HAS NOT GONE FAR LETS LEAVE ALL FALTOO DEBATE WHERE IT TAKES TO FIGHT . LOVE EACH OTHER SO THAT WE ALL CAN BE IN CHARDIKALLA TAKE CARE AND VERY GOOD POST VEER AGAIN <

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[daughter of dasam pitha]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

khalistani pajhi, i agree wiv u 10000000000000000%

yea we hav divided ourselvs in so many jethes. Theres no essence of unity and one family. No one is willing 2 follow AKAAL TAKHATS rehat maryda and jethe bandi maryads are more dear 2 us. 'EKA BANI, IK GUR, IKO SHABAD VICHAAR', and then wher do al these disgreements cum from?

bhul chuk maaf!!!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

:nihungsmile:

I like!!!!!

Now if only someone could beat it into our elders...

[V]

Agreed

I guess the corruption can only get over when the new generation takes over

bhull chukk maaf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Guest balwinderkaur]

yeah thats a fabulous post khalistanee veerjee. unity will happen when the new generation takes over.... hmmm what new generation are u referring to mr singh jee??? kids born in 2000s, 2010s and 2020s?????? or those born during those trying years of 1980s-1990s????? if we keep on procrastinating like that, its not gonna happen.... we should stand up and unite as a team NOW instead of just saying ah unity will happen when the next generation takes over. also didnt it occur that the new generation will learn from the old...and somehow imbibe their ideas of division, jaat paat etc. (although most youths hate it.....there are some who still follow this closely and take soooo much pride in their: I AM MAJHA IM GREAT I AM DOABIA I AM BETTER I AM MALWA IM DA BEST....U ARE NON JATT YOU ARE WORTHLESS YOU ARE CHOORHA YOU ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH) instead of taking pride in their, im citizen of anandpur sahib with a glorious past and im gonna make an even more glorious future. hmm im not making sense here.... better stop mumbling all this garbage.. sorry.