Countless Us?

[Guest Baffled]

Gurbani Says that theres countless universes right, and like it sed that theres millions of brahmas on each of these universes, and i cant remember exactly, but i beleive it was gurbani that sed there are millions of each of us, all in the different universes. But wat really confuses me, is that say a gurmukh reaches Sachkhand in this universe, and eventually that same gurmukh as reached Sachkhand from every other universe,

would that mean theres millions of the same people in Sachkhand????? Cause there surely cannot be more that one Sachkhand.

This is so confusing :wub:

[AkalPurakhDiFauj]

paathaalaa paathaal lukh aagaasaa aagaas

There are nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above.

ourruk ourruk bhaal thukae vaedh kehan eik vaath

The Vedas say that you can search and search for them all, until you grow weary.

sehus athaareh kehan kuthaebaa asuloo eik dhaath

The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe.

laekhaa hoe th likheeai laekhai hoe vinaas

If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it.

naanuk vuddaa aakheeai aapae jaanai aap

O Nanak, call Him Great! He Himself knows Himself. ||22||

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA

WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!

[Guest Akirtghan]

paathaalaa paathaal lukh aagaasaa aagaas

There are nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above.

ourruk ourruk bhaal thukae vaedh kehan eik vaath

The Vedas say that you can search and search for them all, until you grow weary.

sehus athaareh kehan kuthaebaa asuloo eik dhaath

The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe.

laekhaa hoe th likheeai laekhai hoe vinaas

If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it.

naanuk vuddaa aakheeai aapae jaanai aap

O Nanak, call Him Great! He Himself knows Himself. ||22||

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA

WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!

no, where did you get that from? thats wrong

the real meaning is as follows

pwqwlw pwqwl lK Awgwsw Awgws ]

paataalaa paataal lakh aagaasaa aagaas.

There are countless nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above.

EVk EVk Bwil Qky vyd khin iek vwq ]

orhak orhak bhaal thakay vayd kahan ik vaat.

People have tried searching for end in past, present and will in future at end they all gave up and will give up, vedas (ie. all dharmic granths) says the same thing -

shs ATwrh khin kqybw AsulU ieku Dwqu ]

sahas athaarah kahan kataybaa asuloo ik Dhaat.

Thousands of dieties along with eighteen scriptures says there is no end, we are tired of searching because in reality, there is only One God that exist and knows.

lyKw hoie q ilKIAY lyKY hoie ivxwsu ]

laykhaa ho-ay ta likee-ai laykhai ho-ay vinaas.

If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it.

nwnk vfw AwKIAY Awpy jwxY Awpu ]22]

naanak vadaa aakhee-ai aapay jaanai aap. ||22||

O Nanak, call Him Great! He Himself knows Himself.

please think before coming to a conclusion about literal translations online. how can guru sahib say that there is no limit to creator's creation and then say there is only 1 universe? surely, if there is no limit then we can't put a number on it. :wub: even in this pauri, with the meanings you have posted, the first tuk and 3rd tuk then become contradictory

to the original poster, dont try to understand waheguru's kala/play, its impossible. just enjoy it :wub:

[Revolutionary]

U making Sachkhand into some lil island lol

Sachkhand is a state of mind.

[rimmel]

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[Guest Akirtghan]

can't be explained, can only experienced.

[Revolutionary]

so when we reach this state of mind - what do we do?

we chillax

but on a higher level

[Guest Original Poster]

Sachkhand is only a state of mind while you are alive, you dont have a mind once you die, so theyre has to be a physical plane called sachkhand.

[Laadli Fauj]

The ultimate stage is jeevan mukht, you can make your own sachkhand or nark here and now--its al about chardi kala. If you're satisfied/happy with what you have, you're in sachkhand. When depressed, sad etc, you're creating a nark for yourself.

When someone attains jeevan mukhti, they become God, in a sense, the ultimate stage.

[AkalPurakhDiFauj]

paathaalaa paathaal lukh aagaasaa aagaas

There are nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above.

ourruk ourruk bhaal thukae vaedh kehan eik vaath

The Vedas say that you can search and search for them all, until you grow weary.

sehus athaareh kehan kuthaebaa asuloo eik dhaath

The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe.

laekhaa hoe th likheeai laekhai hoe vinaas

If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it.

naanuk vuddaa aakheeai aapae jaanai aap

O Nanak, call Him Great! He Himself knows Himself. ||22||

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA

WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!

no, where did you get that from? thats wrong

the real meaning is as follows

pwqwlw pwqwl lK Awgwsw Awgws ]

paataalaa paataal lakh aagaasaa aagaas.

There are countless nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above.

EVk EVk Bwil Qky vyd khin iek vwq ]

orhak orhak bhaal thakay vayd kahan ik vaat.

People have tried searching for end in past, present and will in future at end they all gave up and will give up, vedas (ie. all dharmic granths) says the same thing -

shs ATwrh khin kqybw AsulU ieku Dwqu ]

sahas athaarah kahan kataybaa asuloo ik Dhaat.

Thousands of dieties along with eighteen scriptures says there is no end, we are tired of searching because in reality, there is only One God that exist and knows.

lyKw hoie q ilKIAY lyKY hoie ivxwsu ]

laykhaa ho-ay ta likee-ai laykhai ho-ay vinaas.

If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it.

nwnk vfw AwKIAY Awpy jwxY Awpu ]22]

naanak vadaa aakhee-ai aapay jaanai aap. ||22||

O Nanak, call Him Great! He Himself knows Himself.

please think before coming to a conclusion about literal translations online. how can guru sahib say that there is no limit to creator's creation and then say there is only 1 universe? surely, if there is no limit then we can't put a number on it. :wub: even in this pauri, with the meanings you have posted, the first tuk and 3rd tuk then become contradictory

to the original poster, dont try to understand waheguru's kala/play, its impossible. just enjoy it :wub:

I got that from SikhiToTheMax veer.

my apologies.

ill pay more attention to the Bani i post. :wub:

bhul chuk maaf.

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA

WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!