Why Sikhs Shouldn’t Celebrate Indian Independence

[ocelot]

Sat Sri Akal,

If you accept then why are we debating, we are saying the same thing.

I was thinking that you are pro Hindustani, Sorry for my words.

Regards

[Guest Dancing Warrior]

I’m not pro-Hindustani or Pro-Khalistani Just a Punjabi.

[chatanga]

In India I carry a twelve bore shotgun , Automatic Kalashnikov, as many shastars as I can physically carry, in England my kirpan if over three inches can get me thrown in jail,

I’m free in England and a slave in India……..ye rite!

DW, one cannot measure one's freedom by the size or amount of weapons one carries. This duznt make sense.

One aspect of freedom which we have in England is the freedom to experession. Now in the UK there are many nations who wish to have more power for themselves ie the Scots and the Welsh. If the Govt started to kill Scots and Welsh people in false encounters then you may justify your claim. However this is never going to happen.

None of these communites live in fear from govt or police. none of these people have their lives at risk. None of these communities carry weapons ak's 12 bores etc.

In india this happened so many times that communities seeking more power have been crushed ie sikhs kashmiris, nagas, mirozamis etc. all want more power but have to suffer the consequences of being "free".

So what if some of them, like yourself carry weapons. They havent the power to say what they feel.

Also i want to tell you of something that Sant Jarnail Singh said " if you keep a weapon and do misdeeds that is a big sin, however if you keep a weapon and allow zulm to occur then thats an even bigger sin."

So you may have many weapons but whats the use of them if you never fight zulm. You may as well keep a tin-opener in your kamrkasa, it will be just as effective.

You can stand in a street in Panjab or in a court of law for that matter and shout Khalistan and I’m a Khalistani your free to say that, you couldn’t stand in the streets of England and claim to be an IRA or Al-Qaeda member you go to prison to join the elderly people they lock up for not paying their council tax.

DW i am beginning to think that you dont actually live in india. There is absolutely no way anyone can stand on the street of panjab and say LOng LIve Khalistan, The police would arrest him/her and charge them with sedition. The word Khalistan is banned in India , I thought you would have known that. Even that great multi-cultural icon APache Indian had to remove the word Khalistan from ones of his records before it was allowed to be released in india. Why have Mann and Bittu , and also lt Jagjit Singh Chauhan been arrested over this many times?

and why have Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness , both leaders of the IRA been invited to Downing st many times?

sorry , but your statement is an absolute lie. and I would like you to prove it. Video it and put it on youtube or summat, and I'll apologise if you are right.However if you end up in court charged with sedition, then i will help in any way i can .

chatanga

[ocelot]

Sat Sri Akal,

Just one more difference, Just it would be great if use Sikh instead of Punjabi.

There is nothing Great in being Punjabi alone but being a GurSikh makes you great.

It is just a request.

Nowdays most people want to be called Punjabi then being Sikh, i am not really getting it.

Regards

[Goli Da Vair Sada]

ov course, ur so very gud and im so very bad

[ocelot]

Yes thats truth.

The persons who have forgotten the past are really bad

[Goli Da Vair Sada]

that comment wasnt aimed at u.

[ocelot]

Sorry me and my big mouth it is difficult to find we should start referring names it will be better.

[Guest Dancing Warrior]

In India I carry a twelve bore shotgun , Automatic Kalashnikov, as many shastars as I can physically carry, in England my kirpan if over three inches can get me thrown in jail,

I’m free in England and a slave in India……..ye rite!

DW, one cannot measure one's freedom by the size or amount of weapons one carries. This duznt make sense.

One aspect of freedom which we have in England is the freedom to experession. Now in the UK there are many nations who wish to have more power for themselves ie the Scots and the Welsh. If the Govt started to kill Scots and Welsh people in false encounters then you may justify your claim. However this is never going to happen.

None of these communites live in fear from govt or police. none of these people have their lives at risk. None of these communities carry weapons ak's 12 bores etc.

In india this happened so many times that communities seeking more power have been crushed ie sikhs kashmiris, nagas, mirozamis etc. all want more power but have to suffer the consequences of being "free".

So what if some of them, like yourself carry weapons. They havent the power to say what they feel.

Also i want to tell you of something that Sant Jarnail Singh said " if you keep a weapon and do misdeeds that is a big sin, however if you keep a weapon and allow zulm to occur then thats an even bigger sin."

So you may have many weapons but whats the use of them if you never fight zulm. You may as well keep a tin-opener in your kamrkasa, it will be just as effective.

You can stand in a street in Panjab or in a court of law for that matter and shout Khalistan and I’m a Khalistani your free to say that, you couldn’t stand in the streets of England and claim to be an IRA or Al-Qaeda member you go to prison to join the elderly people they lock up for not paying their council tax.

DW i am beginning to think that you dont actually live in india. There is absolutely no way anyone can stand on the street of panjab and say LOng LIve Khalistan, The police would arrest him/her and charge them with sedition. The word Khalistan is banned in India , I thought you would have known that. Even that great multi-cultural icon APache Indian had to remove the word Khalistan from ones of his records before it was allowed to be released in india. Why have Mann and Bittu , and also lt Jagjit Singh Chauhan been arrested over this many times?

and why have Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness , both leaders of the IRA been invited to Downing st many times?

sorry , but your statement is an absolute lie. and I would like you to prove it. Video it and put it on youtube or summat, and I'll apologise if you are right.However if you end up in court charged with sedition, then i will help in any way i can .

chatanga

Chatanga you are a constant source of amusement

Where did Jagjit Singh Chauhan the president of the Republic of Khalistan spend the remainder of his years? Botswana? I think you’ll find it was Punjab India.

Why would I end up in court charged with sedition? I don’t support Khalistani or Hindustani ideology, again you have demonstrated the fact you haven’t a clue to which you know what you are talking about.

Oh’ and before I forget, the youtube evidence you asked for, about three odd days old..

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW3RcOfhZL4 :nihungsmile:

[Goli Da Vair Sada]

being members of militant outfits such as al-qaeda or ira is 1 thing. yeh u prob will get arrested. just as in india being members of babbar khalsa or kcf u'l be arrested. being members of militant outfits is 1 thing, protesting peacefully for independant states r another. in u.k u wudnt get arrested for protesting peacefully for an independant state so wat u on about? u'v jus compared 2 totally different things. well done.