Sikh Propaganda

[ranj03]

I am sick and tired of our propaganda and repeatitive leaflets/emails that force us to believe that "All our girls are getting brainwashed by muslims", "Be Aware",

"Dont shop at muslim stores"

I AM SICK OF IT.

I myself am a young sikh, and ok, perhaps there have been cases of sikh girls bring brainwashed by a minority in the muslim faith, and I hope they have been accused as guillty and punished. But very likewise, there are minorities in every religion, inlcuding sikh

that have wrong intentions for the innocent. But why then must ALL or MOST muslims be so demonised? 5 Years ago a SENIOR SIKH GIANNI raped a young 5 year old girl. Does this rare story mean all Sikh Gianni's are rapists? Of course it doesnt.

The common story most sikhs love to repeat is "all our girls are getting brainwashed" or "our girls get forced into conversions" - try going out on a Friday night in your local city and see how many of them are WILLINGLY draped over the local muslim lads. They are not as innocent as you like to make out - sorry to burst your bubble!

PLEASE NOT I AM NOT AT ALL TAKING "SIDES" AS IGNORANT PEOPLE LOVE TO ACCUSE ME OF. I AM SIMPLY STATING FACTS, AND NOT TRYING TO PURPOUSLY START HATE CAMPAIGNS AGAINST ANYBODY - JUST LIKE MANY OF THESE STORIES ARE DESIGNED TO DO.

Like I have said before, I am a Sikh and truly love my religion. Like many, I know our Sikhi nation is one that is peaceful and loving. To hate anybody is against Gods will in nearly all religions, including ours. Therefore to hate anybody because of there religion, race, sex etc is AGAINST SIKHISM. That is why I find it so hypocritical of many so called "Sikhs" who feed there hate in muslims through propaganda tools like these leaflets.

LETS NOT FORGET OUR OWN VALUES. IF YOU DONT LIKE SOMEBODY OR ARE CONCERNED, EITHER STAY WELL AWAY OR GIVE NOTICE TO AUTHORITIES. IF THEY BEGIN TO ATTACK, THEN UNDER THE LAW OF OUR RELIGION WE MUST, AND WILL ATTACK THEM TO PROTECT OUR BEAUTIFULL RELIGION.

But, in many cases, to suddenly get "VERY RELIGIOUS" all of a sudden after reading these stories, especially when you dont abide by your religions laws almost 99% of the time, is to say the least, childish.

STOP AGROVATING A VERY VERY RARE ISSUE, THAT NEARLY MOST OF THE TIME IS SELF INFLICTED BY WILLING CONVERTED SIKH GIRLS. YES IT HAPPENS AND YES IT IS BAD, BUT WE HAVE THE EXACT SAME IDIOTS IN OUR OWN RELIGION DOING THE SAME THING, AGAIN SELF INFLICTED BY WILLINGLY COVERTED MUSLIM GIRLS. THEREFORE, THERE IS NO ISSUE! INSTEAD, WE SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON STRENGTHENING OUR RELIGION AND SO SHOULD THEY

WJKK WJKF

[Techno_singh]

ouch

[skepticSikh]

yes, we agree...

although i still hear some ringing...

[ranj03]

yes, we agree...

although i still hear some ringing...

Sorry i dont understand. Could you expand on "although i still hear some ringing.."

[Carpe Diem]

Ouch II

I agree with what you say Ranj ... but i have to say that SAS for example has done some EXCEPTIONAL work and they are quite dharmik "religious" people using the message of Guru Granth Sahib Jee to bring girls back from the wrath of the guilty Islamics.

I dunno, i think you, like me as well, are a bit naieve to the extent of the actual issue here regarding these conversions and its better to "over-dramatise" this and build a massive awareness and defence wall to this, than just to let it carry on and trying to mend the roof whilst its raining.

[ranj03]

Ouch II

I agree with what you say Ranj ... but i have to say that SAS for example has done some EXCEPTIONAL work and they are quite dharmik "religious" people using the message of Guru Granth Sahib Jee to bring girls back from the wrath of the guilty Islamics.

I dunno, i think you, like me as well, are a bit naieve to the extent of the actual issue here regarding these conversions and its better to "over-dramatise" this and build a massive awareness and defence wall to this, than just to let it carry on and trying to mend the roof whilst its raining.

Im not trying to push the issue under the carpet. But exactly to your point, many of these leaflets are "over dramatised" just to encourage us to focus all our energy on a two sided argument, thatis usually self inflicted by "Sikh girls", who are usually given too much freedom too early.

[Carpe Diem]

Ouch II

I agree with what you say Ranj ... but i have to say that SAS for example has done some EXCEPTIONAL work and they are quite dharmik "religious" people using the message of Guru Granth Sahib Jee to bring girls back from the wrath of the guilty Islamics.

I dunno, i think you, like me as well, are a bit naieve to the extent of the actual issue here regarding these conversions and its better to "over-dramatise" this and build a massive awareness and defence wall to this, than just to let it carry on and trying to mend the roof whilst its raining.

Im not trying to push the issue under the carpet. But exactly to your point, many of these leaflets are "over dramatised" just to encourage us to focus all our energy on a two sided argument, thatis usually self inflicted by "Sikh girls", who are usually given too much freedom too early.

Do you know to the extent Muslims go to convert Sikh and Hindu girls jee? Heres a case::

lie to a girl that ure a muslim... sweet talk them... use "black magic" ... get their trust... rape them... take photos in bed with them... print em... blackmail the girl to convert or fotos of them together in bed would be sent to her mother, father, brothers and extended family... girl converts... Muslim pockets thousands of pounds tax free in his pocket.

[kullykhalsa]

it happens and atleast people are doing something about it, i can understand ranjs point that it is over dramatacised but the fact remains if it wasnt then we would be complaing that omg no1s doing anything about it, how about we get behind SAS and try ourselves to teach our sisters and brothers more about sikhi, the reasons is not based on too much freedom its based on the fact that with this freedom 9/10 would rather go to a club then a gurdwara!

bhul chuk maf :wub:

[ranj03]

Ouch II

I agree with what you say Ranj ... but i have to say that SAS for example has done some EXCEPTIONAL work and they are quite dharmik "religious" people using the message of Guru Granth Sahib Jee to bring girls back from the wrath of the guilty Islamics.

I dunno, i think you, like me as well, are a bit naieve to the extent of the actual issue here regarding these conversions and its better to "over-dramatise" this and build a massive awareness and defence wall to this, than just to let it carry on and trying to mend the roof whilst its raining.

Im not trying to push the issue under the carpet. But exactly to your point, many of these leaflets are "over dramatised" just to encourage us to focus all our energy on a two sided argument, thatis usually self inflicted by "Sikh girls", who are usually given too much freedom too early.

Do you know to the extent Muslims go to convert Sikh and Hindu girls jee? Heres a case::

lie to a girl that ure a muslim... sweet talk them... use "black magic" ... get their trust... rape them... take photos in bed with them... print em... blackmail the girl to convert or fotos of them together in bed would be sent to her mother, father, brothers and extended family... girl converts... Muslim pockets thousands of pounds tax free in his pocket.

YOUR A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF IGNORANCE THAT SADLY EXISTS IN OUR SOCIETY.

CAN I ASK:

1. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED IF A SIKH HAS DONE THIS? NO? HOW SURE ARE YOU THEN? HAVE YOU GOT ANY PROOF? NO? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

2. WHERE DID YOU READ THIS? AN OFTENLY OVER EXAGGERATED LEAFLET/EMAIL YOU RECIEVED? THE EXACT TYPE OF PROPAGANDA I WAS TALKING ABOUT?

THANK YOU FOR POSTING A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A CLASSICALLY EASILY LEAD DIMWIT WHO, WISHES TO CONCENTRATE ON VERY RARE, INFREQUENT, TWO SIDED ISSUES INSTEAD OF CONCENTRATING ON BIGGER ISSUES - EG. MILLIONS BEING KILLED IN WARS IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES, COUNTRIES IN WHICH SIKHS TOO RESIDE (AFGHANISTAN)

SIMPLY, CARPE DIEM, I PITTY YOU

[Carpe Diem]

Ouch II

I agree with what you say Ranj ... but i have to say that SAS for example has done some EXCEPTIONAL work and they are quite dharmik "religious" people using the message of Guru Granth Sahib Jee to bring girls back from the wrath of the guilty Islamics.

I dunno, i think you, like me as well, are a bit naieve to the extent of the actual issue here regarding these conversions and its better to "over-dramatise" this and build a massive awareness and defence wall to this, than just to let it carry on and trying to mend the roof whilst its raining.

Im not trying to push the issue under the carpet. But exactly to your point, many of these leaflets are "over dramatised" just to encourage us to focus all our energy on a two sided argument, thatis usually self inflicted by "Sikh girls", who are usually given too much freedom too early.

Do you know to the extent Muslims go to convert Sikh and Hindu girls jee? Heres a case::

lie to a girl that ure a muslim... sweet talk them... use "black magic" ... get their trust... rape them... take photos in bed with them... print em... blackmail the girl to convert or fotos of them together in bed would be sent to her mother, father, brothers and extended family... girl converts... Muslim pockets thousands of pounds tax free in his pocket.

YOUR A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF IGNORANCE THAT SADLY EXISTS IN OUR SOCIETY.

CAN I ASK:

1. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED IF A SIKH HAS DONE THIS? NO? HOW SURE ARE YOU THEN? HAVE YOU GOT ANY PROOF? NO? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

2. WHERE DID YOU READ THIS? AN OFTENLY OVER EXAGGERATED LEAFLET/EMAIL YOU RECIEVED? THE EXACT TYPE OF PROPAGANDA I WAS TALKING ABOUT?

THANK YOU FOR POSTING A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A CLASSICALLY EASILY LEAD DIMWIT WHO, WISHES TO CONCENTRATE ON VERY RARE, INFREQUENT, TWO SIDED ISSUES INSTEAD OF CONCENTRATING ON BIGGER ISSUES - EG. MILLIONS BEING KILLED IN WARS IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES, COUNTRIES IN WHICH SIKHS TOO RESIDE (AFGHANISTAN)

SIMPLY, CARPE DIEM, I PITTY YOU

Pity me all u want - ive SEEN it with my own eyes. YOU are the deluded one. I was merely giving you a pov but if u wanna pity me, be my guest. Infact, everyone, please pity me. But let the raising of awareness continue coz it happens and i keep in touch with sevadars from SAS so i know what happens. They are not stupid u know Ranj - taking time out of their own working professional lives and families to educate and sort out such situations.

Dont talk to me about "where did i read this n that" coz u dont know me for jack. I cant do nething about wars and i cant stop them, as much as i wud like to. but i sure can hella prevent what happened to PEOPLE I KNOW happening to other people.