Dark Age

[Kharku]

yup

[singh-khalsa]

personally i dun like to post in these kinda forums anymore but after reading one of your responce in other thread mr kharku.. u said babar khalsa's ppl killed innocent ppl around..can u plz tell who told u that story. is that person a sikh or someone else? not trying to be rude but just wanna know thatz why i asked this. babbar khalsa ppl were very pure and nitnami. they never killed any innocent person if u have any proff give that to me. by the way i am personaaly fan of bhaji sukhdev singh ji sukha..those ppl gave their lives for us and we have no respect for them thatz shame.

b4 i thought we should have khalistan:

punjab is not a sikh state anymore because we r in minority and ppl get attracted towards majority. if they smoke we smoke, if they drink we drink, if they make hairstyles we do same looking at them. if it had our ownland than this was never gonna happen. if we had khalistan than we were not gonna c those wine bars near darbar sahib and shahedan sahib in amritsar. there were no threates showing wrong movies next to shahedan sahib. there were no meat shops near golden temple. a pure state or my dreamland

but now i say no for khalistan:

ki karna khalistan la k jithay ik peo day puttar e lar lar k mar jann. lanat a saday sarian singhan tay. asi dilon ik dujay nu pyar nahi karday bass show karday an. singhon ik kam karo saray laro ik dujay naal tay maro sada peo sanu dakh k bhut khush ho reha a

waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh

[saint-soldier]

Interesting topic, dont have time so i'll post my views later. Till then 1 more to my total posts :WOOHOO:

[SINGH_SARDAR]

JE SAU CHANDA UGVEH

SOORAJ CHARHE HAZAR

ETE CHANAN HONDYAN

GUR BIN GHOR ANDHAR

[GURU ANGAD DEV JI]

DARK AGE IS THE AGE WITHOUT GURU. NEVER TRUST ON THESE FAKE HEARSAY. :nishaan_sahib_right:

[Raju]

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[Raju]

Mayan Connection With India

First Hindu-Maya cultural dialogue in Guatemala

The Mayans of Guatemala - representative of the Maya civilization that flourished during the first millennium AD in Central America - believe their ancestors came to this part of the globe 20,000 years ago from the East.

One of the most dominant ethnic groups, Kekichi Maya, has always had special attraction for India in the past as their forefathers have told them that the "Naga tribes of Nagaland" were one of the four original branches of the Maya civilization.

It is for these reasons and the similarities between the Aryan and Mayan civilizations, the people of Guatemala for long have been trying to establish contact with Indians and have a cultural dialogue.

The first such dialogue formally gets going at Maya Village, Lake Atitlan in Guatemala on May 29. Lake Atitlan is famous for its natural beauty and colourful Mayan villages. A 16-member delegation of intellectuals, academicians and scholars from six countries - mainly people of Indian origin - left Houston in Texas for the Guatemala City on May 27 to participate in the two day conference on "Hindu -Maya Cultural Similarities". The conference is organized by the Council of Elders of the Sacred Mayas, Guatemala in collaboration with the International Centre for Cultural Studies, a non-profit organization based in the US.

The Council of Elders is an umbrella organization of all the 23 different Maya groups in Guatemala and is responsible for controlling the tribal life of the people. "The conference would look at similarities in these cultures and traditions, besides conducting workshops on ceremonies of these traditions," Yashwant Pathak, global coordinator of International Centre for Cultural Studies.

Giving details of the conference, Pathak said on May 29 the Hindu delegation comprising of members from countries like India, the US, Britain, Trinidad and Guyana would be given a traditional Mayan welcome followed by lecture on the culture and tradition of their civilization.

"On the second day, we would present our papers, besides show them how a traditional Hindu welcome is with tilak and aarti. Later in the afternoon, we would also conduct a Vedic Yagna. We are taking all the necessary things with us for the conference," Pathak said.

Before the conclusion of the two-day conference, members of the two delegations would tie "Rakhi" to each other. "This would represent the permanent brotherhood between the two ancient civilizations of the world and also that we would protect tradition and culture of each other," Pathak said. The Hindu-delegation is also scheduled to meet the Noble peace prize winner, Rigoberta Menchu, a Mayan Indian. In 1992, she won the prize in recognition of her work for social justice and ethno-cultural reconciliation based on respect for rights of indigenous people.

After the conference, the Hindu delegation would proceed on a five day tour of the Guatemala Mayan attractions, he said. Pathak said the Hindu and the Maya traditions and cultures are one of the ancient in the world. "There are many similarities in these two great traditions. While, they date back thousands of years; they believe in One God with manifestations in different forms. Both believe in philosophy for human being in totality and total humanity," he said.

Mayan Connection With India

First Hindu-Maya cultural dialogue in Guatemala

The Mayans of Guatemala - representative of the Maya civilization that flourished during the first millennium AD in Central America - believe their ancestors came to this part of the globe 20,000 years ago from the East.

One of the most dominant ethnic groups, Kekichi Maya, has always had special attraction for India in the past as their forefathers have told them that the "Naga tribes of Nagaland" were one of the four original branches of the Maya civilization.

It is for these reasons and the similarities between the Aryan and Mayan civilizations, the people of Guatemala for long have been trying to establish contact with Indians and have a cultural dialogue.

The first such dialogue formally gets going at Maya Village, Lake Atitlan in Guatemala on May 29. Lake Atitlan is famous for its natural beauty and colourful Mayan villages. A 16-member delegation of intellectuals, academicians and scholars from six countries - mainly people of Indian origin - left Houston in Texas for the Guatemala City on May 27 to participate in the two day conference on "Hindu -Maya Cultural Similarities". The conference is organized by the Council of Elders of the Sacred Mayas, Guatemala in collaboration with the International Centre for Cultural Studies, a non-profit organization based in the US.

The Council of Elders is an umbrella organization of all the 23 different Maya groups in Guatemala and is responsible for controlling the tribal life of the people. "The conference would look at similarities in these cultures and traditions, besides conducting workshops on ceremonies of these traditions," Yashwant Pathak, global coordinator of International Centre for Cultural Studies.

Giving details of the conference, Pathak said on May 29 the Hindu delegation comprising of members from countries like India, the US, Britain, Trinidad and Guyana would be given a traditional Mayan welcome followed by lecture on the culture and tradition of their civilization.

"On the second day, we would present our papers, besides show them how a traditional Hindu welcome is with tilak and aarti. Later in the afternoon, we would also conduct a Vedic Yagna. We are taking all the necessary things with us for the conference," Pathak said.

Before the conclusion of the two-day conference, members of the two delegations would tie "Rakhi" to each other. "This would represent the permanent brotherhood between the two ancient civilizations of the world and also that we would protect tradition and culture of each other," Pathak said. The Hindu-delegation is also scheduled to meet the Noble peace prize winner, Rigoberta Menchu, a Mayan Indian. In 1992, she won the prize in recognition of her work for social justice and ethno-cultural reconciliation based on respect for rights of indigenous people.

After the conference, the Hindu delegation would proceed on a five day tour of the Guatemala Mayan attractions, he said. Pathak said the Hindu and the Maya traditions and cultures are one of the ancient in the world. "There are many similarities in these two great traditions. While, they date back thousands of years; they believe in One God with manifestations in different forms. Both believe in philosophy for human being in totality and total humanity," he said.

[Raju]

[Kiranpreet Singh]

sorry to burst your bubble guys buy only 5000 years of Kaliyug have pasts and Kaliyug lasts for 432,000 years, and its going to start Khalsa raj, maharaj said himself Raj Karega Khalsa. heard it in of of Giani Thaker Singh Ji (i think it was Jap Ji Sahib not sure, well you guys better start checking if you want the knowledge), and the person i get synthia from also said (knew Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale, he left June 1, 1984 from Amritsar, i think Sant Ji told him, not sure)

[HershiKaur]

sorry to burst your bubble guys buy only 5000 years of Kaliyug have pasts and Kaliyug lasts for 432,000 years, and its going to start Khalsa raj, maharaj said himself Raj Karega Khalsa. heard it in of of Giani Thaker Singh Ji (i think it was Jap Ji Sahib not sure, well you guys better start checking if you want the knowledge), and the person i get synthia from also said (knew Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale, he left June 1, 1984 from Amritsar, i think Sant Ji told him, not sure)

phewww ....only 5000 years passed!

[Raju]

In the Hindu system of time cycles, the longest cycles last trillions of years, but at the shorter end of the cycle spectrum, we have the four Yugas, which are:

* Krita Yuga (Golden Age): 1,728,000 years = 2,160 x 800

* Treta Yuga (Silver Age): 1,296,000 years = 2,160 x 600

* Dvapara Yuga (Copper/Bronze Age): 864,000 years = 2,160 x 400

* Kali Yuga (Iron Age): 432,000 years = 2,160 x 200 ...

[ Since 2,160 years = 72 x 30 = precession of the equinox through 30 degrees, or 1/12 of a full precession, there may be some connection between the Hindu system of time cycles and precession, but it is not completely clear to me because 200, 400, 600, and 800 are not multiples of 12. I would be happier with the precession idea if, instead of multiples of 100, multiples of 9 x 12 = 108 had been used to get:

* Krita Yuga (Golden Age): 1,866,240 years = 2,160 x 864

* Treta Yuga (Silver Age): 1,399,680 years = 2,160 x 648

* Dvapara Yuga (Copper/Bronze Age): 933,120 years = 2,160 x 432

* Kali Yuga (Iron Age): 466,560 years = 2,160 x 216

However, it may be an acceptable practice in Hindu/Vedic cosmology to approximate 108 by 100. ]

... John Major Jenkins' recent book, Galactic Alignment goes into the Vedic Yuga system in some detail, and he studies the work of Hindu saint, Sri Swami Yukteswar, (born 1855) ... In one of the oldest Vedic writings, attributed to the god-man Manu, the 4 Yugas are said to add up to 24,000 years, but when they are enumerated, they only come to 12,000 years.

* The Satya Yuga (Golden Age) lasts 4,800 years;

* the Treta Yuga (Silver Age) lasts 3,600 years;

* the Dvapara Yuga (Bronze age) lasts 2,400 years, and

* the Kali Yuga (Iron Age) lasts 1,200 years.

Yuketswar ... equates the 12,000 years to a descending half of the 24,000-year cycle, and another 12,000 years to an ascending half. Jenkins' Study of the Yukteswar analysis shows that Yukteswar was talking about the precession cycle, but basing it on a 24,000-year cycle, rather than the (approx) 25,700-year cycle recognised by astronomy

[ The approximation by 25,700 by 24,000 = 25,920 / 1.08 is within the range mentioned above of approximating 108 by 100. ]

The descent into darkness started when the Summer (June) solstice sun was aligned with Galactic Centre, around 10,800 BC, and

the ascent back to light starts when the Winter (December) solstice sun aligns with Galactic Centre ...[ which is in the year 2012 ]".