Sacha Sauda Dera Supporters Killed Another In Dabwali

[vikramjitsingh]

Singhs need to stop the protesting enoughs enough ,enough Singhs been shot we ain't pussys Singhs need to ignore the orders of Dhumma and Co and pick up arms to defend themselves ,otherwise they';re just going to die at every protest ,the time for shaanti came and went right after the time Shaheed Kamaljit was shot dead, chaklo santhaleeya chalko gandasay,

I agree with Sarpanch, the time has come for Dhumma to jack his b/s chandigarh sit-ins which are achieving nothing. They need to move things to Sirsa and target the pakandis dera or at least the major roads around his dera if they want to carry on with their sit-ins.

Saad Sangath Ji,

Fateh

This is not the first time that a Sikh has been killed by Dera followers.

Sikhs should strategize to tackle the Dera.

The Sikhs should take on the Dera in Sirsa and Sikh Bodies should mobilize Jathas to Sirsa.

Call his bluff,

Catch this goon by his scuff,

Time to get rough.

Guru Rakha

[akalsahai]

my brothers we need Jarnail singh bhindranwale ....only he can understand our situation. rest of sikh leaders are just there for votes and politics. this is truth.

o almighty bless us with a leader with soul and heart of true warrior

:nishaan_sahib_right:

[khalistan_zindabaad]

my brothers we need Jarnail singh bhindranwale ....only he can understand our situation. rest of sikh leaders are just there for votes and politics. this is truth.

o almighty bless us with a leader with soul and heart of true warrior

:nishaan_sahib_right:

Interesting comment

[apne]

Who is Dhumma ? Is he Harnam Singh Khalsa.

Anyways you guys should know that Harnam Singh Khalsa has stated many times that they are holding peaceful protests only because the Jathdars and Akal takht have stated that no violence is to be used, only peaceful methods are to be adopted.

Yesterday Harnam Singh Khalsa stated that the Jathedars should resign if they cannot lead the quam into successfuly resolving the issues, if the Sikhs are to be killed again and again, then the Jathedars should sit at home. However he said that they were respecting the Hukamnama which said no violence to be used, but their patience is running out. Then they would take this fight to the end, whatever the consequences. The guys holding protests are demanding action by peaceful way, but they are not cowards. They are peaceful because they don't want to disrupt peace, but they would wreck hell if things heat up.

Things like this happenned even during Bhindranwales time, his own van containing sggs was burned in chandon kalan. That time too they were sponsored by Haryana govt.

The Sikh who killed was cousin of the Dera follower in whose house they went to protest. A cousin killed a cousin.

However the govt. will not do anything at all. If they take action they stand to lose lakhs of votes of dera followers. Haryana CM Hooda is supporting the baba. There is concrete evidence against the dera head in cases of rape and murder, but the courts are going at the pace of snail, the govt. wants to use the baba for political reasons. All this started when Mr. Paramjit Singh Sarna (he allegedly bought the dress baba wore at the function when he dressesd as Guru Gobind Singh), Capt. Amarinder Singh [Ex CM] and senior politicians of Congress and S.S Virk [Ex DGP of Punjab Police] hatched a conspiracy to topple Badal govt.

Sikhs first need to raid the houses of these politicians and then these babas will fade away, there are many babas like these who exploit common man in whole of India. Recently a well known Baba, Asaram Bapu, with a following more than ten times the following of Gurmeet Ram Rahim, sacrificed two small childeren and gave their 'bali' according to 'tantra'. All common sense has vanished from India. Majority of M.Ps in parliament are criminals, dons, or immoral people. You can buy anything with money, a poor man is no better than an animal on roadside. Recently the govt. release has said that more than 80% of indian population lives on less than Rs. 20 per day. The democratic system has failed for common man, it only has helped the western bloc into gaining monetry gains through market reforms. The common man in whose name independance was got has lost and lost in every possible way. A revolution is needed in this country. The question is when will a leader of such caliber spring up. :ye:

[spamindersingh]

Who is Dhumma ? Is he Harnam Singh Khalsa.

Anyways you guys should know that Harnam Singh Khalsa has stated many times that they are holding peaceful protests only because the Jathdars and Akal takht have stated that no violence is to be used, only peaceful methods are to be adopted.

Yesterday Harnam Singh Khalsa stated that the Jathedars should resign if they cannot lead the quam into successfuly resolving the issues, if the Sikhs are to be killed again and again, then the Jathedars should sit at home. However he said that they were respecting the Hukamnama which said no violence to be used, but their patience is running out.

Since when has Dhumma been bothered about any Hukum/sandesh issued from Akal Takht ? Does he now follow the Nanakshahi dates etc ? He wants to get Mokham Singh up for peshi then as he has flouted numerous Hukumnama including boycotting the RSS when he held mettings with Rulda Singh.

Dhumma should stop missleading the public and endeavour to follow the glorious past of previous DDT Jathedar.

[Harvinder singh Babbar]

fateh,

the time for using peaceful means to resolve the situation have failed. Its time singhs draw the Aks and kirpans and end this situation. Enough is enough. Boleh Soh Nihal!

[Damdami Taksal Jatha Bhindran]

Prove ONCE that Sant Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa held ANY meeting with RULDA of RSS

EVEN ONCE! ANY proof whatsoever? Even on the "PANTHIC WEEKLY" website, run by the milk washed Jathebandi, it does not state ANYWHERE that Baba Harnam Singh met or had any meeting with RULDA or RSS.

Also when did he want to send Bhai Mohkam Singh for peshi & what for? Can you prove this?

As for Nanakshahi Calendar? We'll see when and how the Khalsa Panth celebrates Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Gur-Gaddi Divas, with the Nanakshahi Calender or Old Calendar as Takhat Sri Hazur Sahib will celebrate with the Old dates?

Damdami Taksal believes there should be a Sikh calendar, BUT before going to issue it all the Panth must be consulted and the dates should not be changed as they have been done now, changing the dates according to a PERMANENT Sikh calendar, then like last year Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Avtaar Purab came on the same day as Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji's Shaheedi Divas, then Sri Anandpur Sahib Jathedar issues a on the spot Hukamnama to change the dates again, what a joke? Two Takhats do not believe in the Nanakshahi Calendar at all what does that mean that they are Baba Harnam Singh's puppets?

[spamindersingh]

Prove ONCE that Sant Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa held ANY meeting with RULDA of RSS

EVEN ONCE! ANY proof whatsoever? Even on the "PANTHIC WEEKLY" website, run by the milk washed Jathebandi, it does not state ANYWHERE that Baba Harnam Singh met or had any meeting with RULDA or RSS.

Also when did he want to send Bhai Mohkam Singh for peshi & what for? Can you prove this?

As for Nanakshahi Calendar? We'll see when and how the Khalsa Panth celebrates Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Gur-Gaddi Divas, with the Nanakshahi Calender or Old Calendar as Takhat Sri Hazur Sahib will celebrate with the Old dates?

Damdami Taksal believes there should be a Sikh calendar, BUT before going to issue it all the Panth must be consulted and the dates should not be changed as they have been done now, changing the dates according to a PERMANENT Sikh calendar, then like last year Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Avtaar Purab came on the same day as Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji's Shaheedi Divas, then Sri Anandpur Sahib Jathedar issues a on the spot Hukamnama to change the dates again, what a joke? Two Takhats do not believe in the Nanakshahi Calendar at all what does that mean that they are Baba Harnam Singh's puppets?

Do you have difficulty comprehending simple statements ?

Read again :

He wants to get Mokham Singh up for peshi then as he has flouted numerous Hukumnama including boycotting the RSS when he held mettings with Rulda Singh.

If he has become such an ardent follower of Hukumnama then he wants to get Mokham to the Akal Takht double quick for peshi. He also wants to questio Mokham about the allegations in Dhars books which show Mokham as being heavily tainted. Please don't tell me Mokham did not meet Rulda and he never met with GOI agents. Why do the DDT insist on keeping such a tainted charachter at the Taksal ? Does he have something on Dhumma ?

Now you tell me does Dhumma follow the dictate of Badal appointed Takht Jathedar or is he capable of making some decisions in the interests of the Khalsa Panth ? You cannot follow Hukumnama/Sandesh issued from the Akal Takht on the basis that some suit you and others do not. Either he follows all such Hukumnama or none.

When is Dhumma going to Sirsa to demonstrate. We can see these Chandigarh demos are achieving zilch, it is like a group of Singh holding similar events in Manchester and pretending they are having a big effect.

[apne]

Harnam singh khalsa led sant Samaj did reject the hukamnama of akal takht very recently. As for following old sikh calender according to old panthic maryada, where in panth has this sant samaj got the right to influence panthic decisions. There has never been a sant samaj in sikh history, it is a recent creation, probably at the behest of RSS and sadly even akal takht recognizes it. Maybe it is time to start an aam sikh samaj, followed by NRI sikh samaj, followed by sehajdhari sikh samaj etc. etc.