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Sikhs in INDIA protest against Taliban treatement of SIKHS in PAKISTAN :

3,000 Sikhs seeking shelter/refuge in Panja Sahib Nanaksar, Pakistan gurdwara due fear of Muslim violence

Pakistani taliban making Sikhs pay tax for being SIKH??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18b_YQSSpjE

Protest by VHP in Jammu demanding fair treatment of sikhs in PAKISTAN

Taliban levy tax on sikhs

Sikhs fear Pakistan violence

Sikhs protest in Ambala Punjab India against President of Pakistan, burn his effigy and against Pakistan Govt and Taliban

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUAWnbouFdw...feature=related

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Panja Sahib IDP Sikhs live in good conditions much better than their Muslim Counter parts as UnitedSikhs show

They have clean water,food,aid,and even education

The only issue is that Sikhs have to stop getting involved with the Pashtun Drug Lords as shown on Sky News a while back ,once they get involved the problems start as Sikhs traffic the drugs,this is against the teachings of Guru Saab and morally incorrect.

It is a luxurious refuge compared with the conditions endured by most of the region's 2 million displaced, some of whom started to trickle home in military-protected convoys today.

Instead of a dust-strewn camp the Sikhs live in quarters normally reserved for pilgrims. Thanks to official and private donations they enjoy a well-stocked clinic, a 24-hour kitchen and a temporary school that bustles with laughing children.

At the shrine at the heart of the complex, the devout while away the day inside a rainbow-tiled room, perusing scripture and murmuring their prayers. Outside the door, boisterous teenagers yell and splash about in a cool, clear pool that quivers with fish, which volunteers feed diced cucumber.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/1...s-sikhs-taliban

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Guru Ghars are protected d/w about them,Lahore/Panjab Provence of Pakistan is a very unislamic place includes alcohol,and all sorts of vulgar stuff,the people there are nowhere near the likes of the Tribal Talibans who ban tv and music.

Gurdwareh bring toruism and Pakistan needs the cash no Gurdwara will be attacked I promise you that,Pakistan is fractured in the middle Lahore one side Balouchastan and the rest of the terror land on the other side.

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Gurdwareh bring toruism and Pakistan needs the cash no Gurdwara will be attacked I promise you that,

The word 'promise' sends shivers down a Sikh spine. LOL broken 'Promises' are part of our history.

Places like Pakistan and Hindoostan are volatile places where communal violence erupts for any reason. We've witnessed first hand partition and delhi riots. Those Sikhs in Pakistans can be washed out any time by the Taliban or Pakistan govt. The politcal structure of Pakistan can change tommorrow and those pleasent relationships your Dal Khalsa UK think they have with the Pak govt could be nothing tommorrow.

Sitting back and assuring people all is well is pretty foolish because all we'll do is let the 'storm pass' and then complain we didn't do anything.

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Got a chance today at the Gurdwara Sahib to see and hear Sardar Hardyal Singh from United Sikhs who himself went to SWAT to aid in helping out these Sikhs. The Taliban threatened the Sikhs that they would kill their kids, enslave them, and keep their women as you know what. One Sikh leader was kidnapped for 16 days. He refused to eat from Muslims as he is Amritdhari. He didn't eat first day and last 3 days. Other days his family sent him food.

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Gurdwareh bring toruism and Pakistan needs the cash no Gurdwara will be attacked I promise you that,

The word 'promise' sends shivers down a Sikh spine. LOL broken 'Promises' are part of our history.

Places like Pakistan and Hindoostan are volatile places where communal violence erupts for any reason. We've witnessed first hand partition and delhi riots. Those Sikhs in Pakistans can be washed out any time by the Taliban or Pakistan govt. The politcal structure of Pakistan can change tommorrow and those pleasent relationships your Dal Khalsa UK think they have with the Pak govt could be nothing tommorrow.

Sitting back and assuring people all is well is pretty foolish because all we'll do is let the 'storm pass' and then complain we didn't do anything.

Its not about Dal Khalsa relationships im not just assuring you on that you can speak to the British Sikh Council they will tell yout the same alongside overwealming majority of the FSO,the main thing is have faith in Guru ,as well as look at the geo political build up of Panjab Provence compared to that of Peshawar or those other places you will see why there is no need to worry.

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