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johns response to what maya is....

does anyone have kirtan ringtones here? says:

define me wot maya means to u

Sean Paul is gonna be at pitp! ...20 pitp says:

everything that is not god

Read Japji Sahib Kandola

http://www.punjabonline.com/sikhism/jap_home.html

May I also ask you a question, did you post the details of your personal message with John because you wanted someone to refute his argument for you? A Sikh is someone who is on the path of learning - don't look to others to answer the question, learn the answers for yourself (hence the link to JapJi Sahib).

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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

It's true Kandola veerjee should do his own research... I hope he does..

But then again Gupti my dear bhainjee... A sikh is also one who "mannai parvaarai saadhaar" A sikh is also one who "aap japai avrai naam japaavai" A Sikh is also one who "aap tharai saglay kul thaarai"

So it's our job as Gursikhs to use the teachings from Guru jee to help our fellow Gursikhs right? If I'm wrong please correct me bhainjee.

Kandola veerjee,

Maya is not JUST greed or lust or anger, these are parts of Maya.

Maya is not JUST attachment or ego, these are parts of Maya.

Maya is not JUST money, power, respect, these are parts of Maya.

Maya is the bigger whole.

It is EVERYTHING that has the potential to distract you from the Ultimate Truth, Waheguru.

In Anand Sahib it says "gurparsaadee jinaa liv laagee thinee vichay maaeiaa paaeiaa"

By the Guru's grace, those who have a LOVE connection with God obtain God while being IN maya

The air we breath, the land we stand on, everything has the potential to distract us from the Ultimate Truth.

Our skin, our body parts, our mind, everything has the power to take us away from the Ultimate Truth.

Guru Nanak Dev Jee was IN MAYA

"Kaljug ANDAR (within the kaljug) jot jagaee (he turned on the light of Ultimate Truth)" (bhai gurdas)

but MAYA was not in Guru Nanak Dev Jee

Guru Nanak Dev Jee's human body,

his clothing, his house, these became holy just by his presence - but still they are parts of Maya because they are not the SHABAD.

But INSIDE the human body was the REAL GURU NANAK, the SHABAD GURU.

The shabad NEVER dies. You friend John is wrong.

The Shabad is the Guru through all the ages, "aad sach, jugaad sach, hai bhee sach, naanak hosee bhee sach. "

the REAL LIGHT of Guru Nanak which is in all 10 Guru Sahibs afterwards including Guru Granth Sahib, that light has no maya in it.

"Sach sapooran nirmalaa this vich kooR na raldaa raaee"

The Ultimate Truth is Pure & Perfect & Clean, You can never mix filth into it.

please forgive my mistakes

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

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I agree with johnny.

guru nanak was a sargun saroop of nirankar and I believe he was with nirankar, but he was bound to hukam and bound to the laws of nature as created by god and overlooked by maya. guru nanak was not afflicted by the 5 veekars, nor was there anything that was above guru nanak. Nor can any gursikh of guru nanak's ever be above guru nanak, but I agree with the point that johnnie made.

also, his point is clearly explained in kabir ji's baani.

"jis marnay se jag darray, meray man anand. marnay te hee payeeyai pooran parmanand"

loosely translated..... I get peace of mind with the death that same deat that all of creation is fearful of, because it is through that death that I will be united with god...(soul to soul).

as gursikhs, lets first try to understand before we become cyber knights...remember, much of our attachment to guru sahib is just our ego manifesting itself so that an affiliation of such a high sort can be made...

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh

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gupti, if i wanted to create another argument, i would say so here "I AM GOING TO HAVE AN ARGUMENT, PLEASE BACK ME UP" is what i would say, have you seen that here? no, i am actually curious, because this john guy also has got me thinking. now i'm sorry if my mind wants to make me think when comes to times like this.

i have read mkhalsa and khalsapreets responses.

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This is a useless post, the topic of the post should be changed or this post should be deleted.

I agree ohmy.gif

the subject syhould have been a question - not a claim

bhull chukk maaf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

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