Sikhs Living In Pakistan

[>Bikramjit Singh<]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

some more pics

Sikh shopkeeper and children from the Tirah valley of NWFP of Pakistan

Sikh shopkeeper from Tirah

Sikh shopkeepers

Sikh trader from Tirah

GurFateh

Bikramjit Singh

[Chind]

Bikramjit Singh Pajii,

great pictures, could you tell me please if there is a website etc that I can see more pictures on?

Seems like the pakistani singhs tie their Pugs in a different style also.

Great Pics

[Deep Singh]

Christians are planning to start a mission among these people also!

Any articles or addition info, etc.?

http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/

search for 'Sindhi' or Sindh

[Guest rsingh]

i was told that the golak at gurudwaras is taken by the Gov and they arent given money for parshad, etc. so wat they do is put a little bowl at the side people dont know about. unfortunatly sikhs in Pakistan are forgoten by major institutes, leaders, etc they dont get much help. :wub: @

sikhs face hardship everyday and have life at risk everday.

[>Bikramjit Singh<]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

I've been asked to post some more pics of Pakistani Sikhs from various websites

Sikhs distributing cold drinks in Lahore during the Shaheedi Divas of Guru Arjan Dev Ji

Langar at Gurdwara Dera sahib, Lahore

Sikh boy from Peshawar, NWFP

Children of the Sewadars of Gurdwara Panja Sahib

Sikhs from the tribal areas outside Panja Sahib Gurdwara

GurFateh

Bikramjit Singh

[Guest Jahan]

Punjabi shunned by Pak schools, yet popular

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030622/world.htm#2

Lahore Museum to set up a Sikh Gallery

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...4-5-2004_pg7_13

Videos:

Kartarpur Sahib

- Most of the gurdwaras in Pakistan have people urging for more renovation works and better upkeep.

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QUOTE Sikh Holy Places Present in the Lahore Region are the following Sikh sites: Nankana Sahib Guru Nanak (1469 - 1539 AD) was born at Rai Bhoeki Talwandi now known as Nankana Sahib situated in Punjab province of West Pakistan. Nankana is located about 75 kilometers west-south-west of Lahore and 39 km southwest of Sheikhupura. Nankana Sahib is connected to the district town by rail and road. Gurdwara Janam Asthan This shrine in Lahore represents the home of Baba Kalu and Mata Tripta, father and mother respectively of Guru Nanak Dev, (where the Guru was born). It was established by Baba Dharam Chand (1523-1618) son of Baba Lakhmi Das and Grandson of Guru Nanak Dev. Gurdwara Bal Lila Gurdwara Bal Lila is another magnificent shrine, about 1.5 furlongs east-south-east of Gurdwara Janam Asthan. It is said to have been built initially by Rai Bular. Diwan Kaura Mal Diwan Kaura Mal had this Gurdwara built in 1748. It was reconstructed by Maharaja Rangit Singh, who also enlarged and properly lined the sarovar Nanaksar. It present three-story domed building was raised during the 1930's and 1940's and was completed shortly before 1947. Chuharkana - Sacha Sauda It is about 20 kilometers Northeast of Talwandi Rai Bhoi (it is now a railway station on the Sheikhupura-Faisalabad section of Pakistan Railways). Gurdwara Dehra Sahib Gurdwara Dehra Sahib symbolizes the Sikh tradition and marks the martyrdom of Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji (1563 - 1606). This shrine was built in the memory of Guru Arjan Dev, the fifth Sikh Guru who compiled the Adi Granth, the principal part of Sikh scriptures. Kartarpur Some writers say that the Guru founded Kartarpur (city of the Creator) after his third Udasi. Others believe that he started the habitation of Kartarpur in 1516 right after he came back from his first travel in 1515. Gurdwara Patti Sahib It is also called Gurdwara Maulvi Patti and lies midway between Gurdwara Janam Asthan and Gurdwara Bal Lila. It is along the road leading from Janam Asthan to the railway station. Gurdwara Janam Asthan Ramdas In Chuna Mandi area stands the ancestral home and birthplace of Siri Guru Ram Das Ji who was born here on 24th September 1534. Samadhi of Maharaja Ranjit Singh The ashes of the great Sikh ruler of Punjab, Maharaha Ranjeet Singh, and of his four wives and several slave girls lie in a dome adjacent to the Hazoori Bagh. Gurdwara Shaheed Bhai Taru Singh Ji There is another holy place by the name of Gurdwara Shaheed Bhai Taru Sing Ji which is situated near Naulakha Bazar. Gurdwara Rohri Sahib And Chaki Sahib Eminabad is near Lahore. Here the Sikh yatris pay homage to the Gurdwara Rori Sahib and Chaki Sahib. Shahid Gang Another small gurdwara close to the Lahore Railway Station known as Shahid Gang has been preserved by Pakistan as it was when occupied by the Sikhs. http://www.punjab.gov.pk/

[Guest Jahan]

Bala Hisar Fort - Peshawar - http://www.geocities.com/marwat30/bala/balahisar19.jpg

[Deep Singh]

Veer Jahan,

the Kalasha tribe (in the 4th video), aren't they related to greeks. I think i read somewhere that when Alexander came to Beas (Punjab) and went back, some of his troops stayed back...and they make up the Kalasha tribe. We can see it on their faces, cloths etc. they are greeks living in Afghanistan (Hindu Kush). True?

[Guest Jahan]

Their origins are unclear but it is generally believed that they are descendants of Alexander the Great's army. This is the view held by the Kalash peoples themselves as far as i know. A good way to tell would be to study the language of the people and any scriptures they have.

No doubt they have Greek blood in them. It is not only during the time of Alexander but there have been a number of 'Greco-Bactrian' kingdoms in the area which is now Pakistan's NWFP and also Punjab's Potohar region.

Alexander had left behind one of his generals, Seleucus Nicator to rule Punjab. Other Greeks followed at different stages. Im sure quite a large Greek population existed in Punjab at one time. Places in West Punjab such as Uch Sharif and Multan are said to have been founded by the Greeks (Uch Sharif i believe was called 'Alexandria' back in those times) and contained Greek/Macedonian populations.

Then of course there is Taxila near Rawalpindi which has strong Greek influence. Some of the sites there have a blend of Greek-Buddhist culture.

Hmm, all of Punjab's Indus tributary rivers originally had Greek names, Indus itself is a Greek word.

There is a bigger Greek influence on ancient Punjab than most people think, or would like to believe (In the case of Hindutva revisionist historians). Actually, Alexander the Great had managed to reach as far as present day Amritsar district in the East. Just goes to show...

Ps, Feel very strongly for the Kalasha tribe. If they're being thrown off their lands and discriminated against id like to see them find a new home in East Punjab (Himachal). The ones in Afghanistan have already been wiped ou

t apparently. Now only around 3,500 remain in NWFP, doesnt look too hopeful for their survival.

[Deep Singh]

Thanks veerji!

You mentioned Taxila. I searched on the net and found an article on Taxila city, it is a UNESCO heritage site....in Pakistan.

here is something about 'Taxila University'

http://www.heritage.gov.pk/html_Pages/guid...oric_taxila.htm

Taxila university , which is the oldest in the world, has been in existence even before the time of the Buddha and before the occupation of the Taxila valley by the Achaemanid rulers in 6th- 5th century B.C. Probably in the period of the  (7th century B.C.) philosophers gathered here to have their own schools of thought and imparted instructions. By the time of the Buddha it rose to be a strong educational Centre, where instructions were given in military science, medicine, political science, philosophy, religion, language and literature, and grammar. Among the famous products are jotipala, later to become the commander-in-chief of the Banaras King, Jivaa, later a physician of  the Magadhan ruler Bimbisara and physician of the Buddha himself, and the famous king Prasentajita of Kosala around modern Ayodhya, and still later prince Chandragupta, founder of the Mauryan Empire. Among the teachers we have Panini, the great grammarian of 6th  century B.C. Kotelia, the famous writer of the Arthsastra, a book on political science, and the great physician Charaka. One famous Centre of the later period was Uttararama,where lived the K

asyapiyas, who probably gave rise to the name Sirkap ( correctly Sri Kasyapas) site. The earliest date of the university can be inferred from an Assyrian seal on steatite "With an engraving of a worshipper in Assyrian costume in front of an Assyrian god" and the latest can be gathered from the coin finds of Hermaes, Maues, Azes, Rajuvala, Condophares,Kadphises, Huvishka, Spalapatideva, a Turki shahi ruler of 8th century A.D. it is probably the philosopher from this university whom Alexander the Great met during his stay in Taxila.

Punjab was a center of learning back then, a'nit

But i like to know when we started using the word Punjab (land of five rivers), as before that the name was Sapt-Sindhu (seven river-valley). That was like the five Punjabi rivers, plus Jamuna in the east and Indus in the west. i guess the Sind area was part of Sapt-Sindhu. But, was it with Mughals (since Punjab is persian), or was it used before that also?