Dasam Bani

[Guest sikher]

The dasam granth banis are full of bir rass - like chandi di vaar and bachittar natak. Are these to be read when preparing for physical battle? or can they be read along with regular gurbani which is entirely naam rass?

For instance reciting the sukhmani and then reading chandi di vaar has a knock on affect - 2 different aspects bhagti and shakti

the question is - is the bani of dasam granth designed for a battle or can it be read day to day spiritually?

[Kaljug Singh]

The dasam granth banis are full of bir rass - like chandi di vaar and bachittar natak. Are these to be read when preparing for physical battle? or can they be read along with regular gurbani which is entirely naam rass?

For instance reciting the sukhmani and then reading chandi di vaar has a knock on affect - 2 different aspects bhagti and shakti

the question is - is the bani of dasam granth designed for a battle or can it be read day to day spiritually?

Nihangs read bir ras bania every day with their nitnem. You are supposed to read them every day, not just for a specific battle. Think of it this way: would you start physical training just before actual battle begins, or would you be training for it well in advance?

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[jaswinder singh]

The dasam granth banis are full of bir rass - like chandi di vaar and bachittar natak. Are these to be read when preparing for physical battle? or can they be read along with regular gurbani which is entirely naam rass?

For instance reciting the sukhmani and then reading chandi di vaar has a knock on affect - 2 different aspects bhagti and shakti

the question is - is the bani of dasam granth designed for a battle or can it be read day to day spiritually?

Most part of dasam Granth is full of puranic stories which is to be studied and imbibed as reference material for understanding SGGS

[GPS]

Dimensions of characters of Puranic stories have been altered in Dasam Granth. In puranas these characters are described as absolute Gods.

In Dasam Granth they are described as creation of God and under command of God.

This is a message to people that these devtas are not God.

[VanHelsingh]

Like GPS has stated above, I think Guru Gobind Singh Ji has stated in Gurbani how gods and goddesses began to consider themselves untouchable, almost equals of God. But Guru Ji has always said there have been many thousands of Brahma, Vishnus and Shivas created and destroyed by God - but there will always be only one God.

[GPS]

Let us take for example of composition of Chaubis avtar. These avatars are mentioned extensively in SGGS ji also. SGGS states that they were sent to this earth

by God's order.

Dasam Granth sahib describes them in narrative form. But Guru sahib's message is very clear in the beginning of invocation part of chaubis avtar

ਜੋ ਚਉਬੀਸ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਕਹਾਏ ॥

जो चउबीस अवतार कहाए ॥

Those who are called twenty-four incarnations;

ਤਿਨ ਭੀ ਤੁਮ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤਨਿਕ ਨ ਪਾਏ ॥

तिन भी तुम प्रभ तनिक न पाए ॥

O Lord ! they even could not realise thee in a small measure;

ਸਭ ਹੀ ਜਗ ਭਰਮੇ ਭਵ ਰਾਯੰ ॥

सभ ही जग भरमे भव रायं ॥

They became kings of the world and got deluded;

ਤਾ ਤੇ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਅੰਤ ਕਹਾਯੰ ॥੭॥

ता ते नाम बिअंत कहायं ॥७॥

Therefore they were called by innumerable names.7.

Chaubis avtar, dasam granth

Most of critics of Dasam Granth do not read dasam granth with attention and jump to guns by merely reading names of these deities.

The dasam granth banis are full of bir rass - like chandi di vaar and bachittar natak. Are these to be read when preparing for physical battle? or can they be read along with regular gurbani which is entirely naam rass?

For instance reciting the sukhmani and then reading chandi di vaar has a knock on affect - 2 different aspects bhagti and shakti

the question is - is the bani of dasam granth designed for a battle or can it be read day to day spiritually?

Nitnemi singhs of name such as Bhai Randhir singh ji and Baba Harnam Singh ji Rampur Kherawale, for example, used to read Bachitra Natak

and chandi di vaar banis everyday.