Census 2011 Ravidassia Urged To Be Seperate Kaum

[guruji's_student]

waheguru, thats the same as being a raam rai, we dont associate with them because they changed bani. If they try to seperate bhagat ravidaas's bani its like the same thing. such a big beadbi. They will be bringing it on themsleves as noones gonna sit and let it happen peacefully.

dhan guru nanak, kirpa karen

[Guest SarabjeetSingh]

RSS is behind all of this .

Brahmans use 4 tactics against enemy - Saam ( influence ) , Dhan ( wealth ) , Dand ( punishment ) , Bhed ( divisiveness ) .

They used first 3 during 1984 , now they are using 4th one and trying to divide sikh community to destroy it . Needless to say whatever they try against us , returns 10 folds worse to them !

[dalsingh101]

RSS is behind all of this .

Brahmans use 4 tactics against enemy - Saam ( influence ) , Dhan ( wealth ) , Dand ( punishment ) , Bhed ( divisiveness ) .

They used first 3 during 1984 , now they are using 4th one and trying to divide sikh community to destroy it . Needless to say whatever they try against us , returns 10 folds worse to them !

In this case we haven't exactly made it difficult for the Hindus with our own treatment of so called 'lower castes' have we......

Although other communities do indeed play underhand games with us, it is an easy cop out to make out like we don't have a lot of bad things happening amongst us that is nothing to do with outsiders but purely of our own making.

Do people think God is blind to that and that we will not have to pay for these things in a karmic way ourselves. If Waheguru punishes others for their transgressions, what makes anyone think we aren't/won't be punish for ours? I mean our people drink and take drugs like no ones business. Kill daughters. Poison the earth with chemical fertilizers, discriminate across caste lines etc. etc.

I mean we aren't exactly 'coming correct' as a community ourselves these days.

[Guest Bloom]

AND WHO IS BEHIND THIS AS WELL ?!?!? NON OTHER THAT DEMON GOI SHROMANI NAKALI DAL BADAL !!!

TRUE AKAALIES WOULD JOIN ALL TO SREE GUROOGRANTH SAHIB JEE MAHAARAAJ !!!!! DEMON BADAL WORKED WITH GOI AND GOT ALL THE TRUE AKALIES KILLED AND THEN HI-JACKED THE NAME AND WORKS WITH GOI TO DESTROY KHALSA FROM WITHIN USING GUROO JEES GOLAK !!!

SHROMANI NAKALI DAL BADAL HAVE LONG TERM GOALS WORKING FOR DEMON GOI TO DESTROY KHALSA !!! DEMON MAKKAR DEMON BADAL ARE INVOLVED IN DESTROYING KHALSA WITH DEMON CONGRSS SARNAS WITH DEMON GOI !!! THEY HAVE LONG TERM PLANS TO DESTROY KHALSA !!!

EVERYTHING SHROMANI NAKALI DAL SAYS ARE LIES WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING ‘POOR PEOPLE’ AS WELL !!! THEY WORK TO DESTROY KHALSA AND THEY LOOT THE POOR !!! DEMON BADAL ARE BUSY WORKING TO DESTROY KHALSA AND BUILDING 1500 CRORE RUPEES HOTELS THAT THEY OWN BY STEALING AND LOOTING MONEY FROM THE POOR !!! DEMON CONGRSS DEMON CONGRSS SARNAS DEMON GOI DEMON SHROMANI NAKALI DAL BADALS ALL WORK IN SIKH GENOCIDES – COVER UPS – DESTROYING KHALSA – STEALING GUROO JEES GOLAK – LOOTING THE POOR !!! AND MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE !!!

http://punjabnewsline.com/content/punjab-construct-rs-10-crore-memorial-dedicated-sri-guru-ravi-das-ji/28890

TRUE GURSIKHS ALWAYS GIVE MAHAA SATKAAR TO BHAGAT RAVIDAAS JEE AS BHAGAT JEE !!!!!

SADA NARAK VAASEE DUKHBEER’S ‘HOTEL VENTURE’

SADA NARAK VAASEE Cong questions source of PAAP funds

Naveen S Garewal

Tribune News Service

Chandigarh, February 26

The SADA NARAK VAASEE Congress has launched a scathing attack, questioning the source of STOLEN funds to build and operate a five-star hotel OF PAAP BUIILT WITH STOLEN FUNDS called Oberoi, Gurgaon, allegedly by SADA NARAK VAASEE Deputy Chief Sinister DukhbEEr MAHAA SIN Badal. In a letter to the NARAK VAASEE MP from Bathinda, SADAA NARAK VAASEE Hasimrat KOOR Badal, and NARAK VAASEE wife of the SADA NARAK VAASEE Deputy Chief Sinister, Qila Raipur MLA SADA NARAK VAASEE Jassi Khangura has questioned the source of the PAAP Rs 1,500 crore spent on the hotel.

Besides NARAK VAASEE Khangura has also questioned how the head of the NARAK VAASEE SAD, a PAKANDHI religious party, can justify to the people and TERRORIZED Akal Takht his promotion of MAHAA PAAP “the country’s only exclusive Cigar lounge”, in a NARAK VAASEE hotel promoted by him DEMON and SADA SADA SADA SADSA SADA NARAK VAASEE his family.

SADA NARAK VAASEE Khangura has alleged that the SADA NARAK VAASE Oberoi, Gurgaon, is opening on March 1 and is a collaborative venture of the MAHAA SADA NARAK VAASEE Badals. A NARAK VAASEE hotelier himself, SADA NARAK VAASEE Khangura has claimed that the PAAP hotel has been built on the land allotted to the SADA NARAK VAASEE Badals by the SADA NARAK VAASEE Deputy Prime Sinister, MAHAA SADA NARAK VAASEE Devi Lal. “A resort was built on a part of this land earlier and now the new hotel with 202 rooms is built on nine acres of land. ” OF PAAP

Despite several attempts SADA SADA SADA SADA SADA NARAK VAASEE DukhbEEr Badal could not be contacted. He DEMON SADA NARAK VAASEE was stated to be in PAAP Delhi. But neither he SADA NARAK VAASEE nor anyone else OF PAAP took the calls from The Tribune till the filing of this report. MAHAA NARAK VAASEES Sources close to the SADA SADA SADA SADA SADA NARAK VAASEE family, however, confirmed that the MAHAA NARAK VAASEE Badals have a stake in the hotel OF PAAP. THE DEMONS WILL BE DESTROYED !!!!!

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110227/punjab.htm#5

[Inqlabi]

Look like u people have no knowledge of Dalits in Punjab.

They were never Sikh 99 % who wants to be called separate koum are Hindu Ravidasia not Sikhs. Very few Sikhs are in their trap .

Infact majority of Dalits are Hindus in Punjab not Sikhs .

Only Majhabis who are Sikhs and they dont like Ravidasias.

Even Valmikis dont like Chamars . All reservation quotas are taken up by Chamars and other Dalits fail to get benefits from them.

[West London Singh]

Do you blame them? Some of the stuff that comes their way from some so-called Sikhs is atrocious

What stuff is that then ? Is it the way....in B.A, M.A and LLB exams in India for example....that all other Sikhs need 70% to pass but they only need 40% ? Is it the way they are guaranteed by law all the top jobs ? Is it a way they are guaranteed at least a job...through govt quotas ? Is it the way they are guaranteed by law to be the sarpanch of the village ?

This is 2011 my friend. Not 1971. A Sikh is a Sikh no matter what his background. But....these ravidassias...i.e the chamars that have rejected Sikhism and embraced ravidassia, want to have their cake and eat it.

[VanHelsingh]

What stuff is that then ? Is it the way....in B.A, M.A and LLB exams in India for example....that all other Sikhs need 70% to pass but they only need 40% ? Is it the way they are guaranteed by law all the top jobs ? Is it a way they are guaranteed at least a job...through govt quotas ? Is it the way they are guaranteed by law to be the sarpanch of the village ?

This is 2011 my friend. Not 1971. A Sikh is a Sikh no matter what his background. But....these ravidassias...i.e the chamars that have rejected Sikhism and embraced ravidassia, want to have their cake and eat it.

In the UK - where this census in taking place.

If you'd read my original post properly before spitting with rage whilst trying to get to your PC to register your indignation, I also stated "there's two sides to every story". Calm down. I know where you're coming from and I can't dispute the facts you've posted above. But we are not blameless in the particular situation in the UK.

As for India, had Sikhs not treated them with contempt, maybe the government wouldn't need to enforce this skewed policy of positive discrimination in favour of them? Although I also appreciate these policies are designed to oppress and demoralise Sikhs, but if any of us were to speak up we'd be tarred with being anti-Ravidassia. Its a delicate situation.

As for their rejection of Sikhi - is that what they've done? Were they all originally Sikhs like us? What have they done that for?

[genie]

The Ravidassia idol worship bhagat ravi das ji, which is a big disrespect to his memory. They call themselves a separate kaum yet take all the benefits of being within Sikhism when it suits them.We need to excommunicate anyone who follows two faiths. They are trying to undermine and subvert the teachings of Sikhism. Also as they maybe born with Sikh names if or when commit crimes then Sikhs get a bad press. Already they have started pouring hatred on Sikhs with many a video not only hating on Jatt's but also started attacking Sikhism also so they are create more problems for themselves.

We need to draw the line when they started to meddle with Sikhi sometimes attacking it covertly by pretending to be Sikhs just like what brahmins do when they try to undermine their enemies faith or political ideology. We can not and should not tolerate such behaviour. Either they are part of our kaum or they should change themselves to show they are distinct from our gurbani instead of copying ours in their so called "amrit bani" This is just an example of what they have uploaded on youtube.

[VanHelsingh]

"Raaj Karega Ravidassia"....^^^^^^ :6

[SikhWorldTv]

"Raaj Karega Ravidassia"....^^^^^^ :6

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