Joot And Food.

[Guest John Smith]

you are what you eat..

A lot of kumai wale Sikhs folow very strict sucham and diets.

* prepare food at home like it was langur

* recite simran whilst preparing food

* avoid chit chat whilst cooking and serving.

* Avoid spit and loose hair.

* avoid artificial colours, preservatives, excessive sugars and spices as they all have mood altering affects

* I have seen amritdharis eat from non-amritdharis but they will never eat from a kitchen where alcohol or meat is served.

* Never eat jhoot.

The first sign of human attraction is jhoot. Animals all exchange fluids when they mate or to show affection. love begins with kissing.

Jhoot breaks our spirituality and causing moh and attachment with those we share jhoot with.

Be strong in your principles. keep your diets strict.

Bad diet and being overweight is a sign of lack of discipline in your lifestyle

[Guest Jagjit Singh]

One time sant Gyani Gurbachan Singh ji Khalsa Bhindrawale, along with the jatha singhs, went to go meet baba ji, and baba ji was feeding or doing ishnaan i think, of the dangars (cow/buffalo), and the sevadaar told them that sant ji was here to meet them, and baba ji put down the sangal of the dangar, and grabbed a basket that had parshade in it and started giving them to the jatha. baba ji didnt wash their hands tho, they first gave 2 parshade to sant gurbachan singh ji, and sant ji knew that baba ji was pooran brahmgiani, so they didnt say anything, and just ate the parshade. but when baba ji went to give parshade to the jatha singhs, the singhs were like, "nahi ji, this is not the right maryada" and stuff like that. cuz the singhs were always tought about keeping strict sucham by sant gurbachan singh ji. but then sant ji told them to not do shanka and just take the parshade. so then each singh was given 2 parshade. and after eating the parshade, the singhs went into this vismaad anand state, as the taste of the parshade was of nothing they had ever tasted before. then the singhs asked sant gurbachan singh ji as to why they went into that vismaad state, and sant ji explained that baba ji is a pooran brahmgiani, and that anything they touch, they turn into pavitar, no matter if they wash their hands or not. 2nd:- ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਸਮਕਾਲੀ ਸੰਤਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਸੰਬਧ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਨੇੜਤਾ ਅਤੇ ਮਿਤਰਤਾ ਵਾਲੇ ਸਨ|ਇਕ ਮੁਲਾਕਾਤ ਦੌਰਾਨ ਸੰਤ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਗੁਰਬਚਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਭਿੰਡਰਾਂਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਨੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ "ਚਲਦਾ ਫਿਰਦਾ ਰੱਬ"ਕਿਹਾ|ਸੰਤ ਜਵਾਲਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਹਰਖੋਵਾਲ,ਸੰਤ ਜਰਨੈਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਭਿੰਡਰਾਂਵਾਲੇ ਸੰਤ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਝਾੜ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵਾਲੇ ਆਪ ਪਾਸ ਸਮੇਂ ਸਮੇਂ ਸਿਰ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਪਾਸ ਆਉਦੇਂ ਰਹੇ।ਅਕਾਲੀ ਆਗੂਆਂ ਤੋਂ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਕਾਗਰਸੀ ਆਗੂ ਵੀ ਆਪ ਪਾਸ ਆਸ਼ੀਰਵਾਦ ਲਈ ਪੁਜਦੇ ਰਹੇ ਪਰ ਆਪ ਨੇ ਰਾਜਨੀਤੀ ਵਿਚ ਕੋਈ ਦਖਲਅੰਦਾਜੀ ਨਹੀ ਕੀਤੀ। ਕੌਮੀ ਪਿਆਰ ਅਤੇ ਆਜਾਦੀ ਦਾ ਵਲਵਲਾ ਵੀ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਰੋਮ ਰੋਮ ਵਿਚ ਰਚਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਸੀ।ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ 'ਜੈਤੋਂ' ਦੇ ਮੋਰਚੇ ਵਿਚ ਗ੍ਰਿਫਤਾਰੀ ਵੀ ਦਿੱਤੀ।ਉਹ 8 ਭਾਦੋਂ 1979 ਨੂੰ ਅਕਾਲ ਚਲਾਣਾ ਕਰ ਗਏ।ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਯਾਦ ਵਿਚ ਹਰ ਸਾਲ 9 ਭਾਦੋਂ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ ਅੰਗੀਠਾ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵਿਖੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਬਰਸੀ ਮਨਾਈ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ।

[gurdssingh]

You mention rehit, although the Guru's Rehit Maryada does not mention Joot specifically it does refer to the following chastisement of Amritdharis:

q. The following individuals shall be liable to chastisement involving automatic boycott:

2. One who eats/drinks Left-overs of the unbaptised or the fallen Sikhs;

http://sgpc.net/reha...ection_six.html

I didn't find anything about giving, preparing or cooking food for Amritdharis by non-Amritdharis, only about the eating or drinking of leftovers.

I get the concept of Jhoot, but the above link and quote isnt all that clear. I thought Amritdharis cant eat drink anything jhootha, but the link above suggests you can eat jhoota food if its from an amritdhari. If a non amritdhari has left something you cant eat it but you can if you eat left over of an amritdhari. Or did I misinterpret it?

Also bibeki I understand, but I have met Amritdharis who arent bibeki but say they will never eat food or drink prepared by non amritdharis but they are happy enough to drink coke etc. and eat processed vegertarian food like bread, chesse etc. which are made by non sikhs?

[AnakinSkywalker]

The first sign of human attraction is jhoot. Animals all exchange fluids when they mate or to show affection.[\b] love begins with kissing.

Jhoot breaks our spirituality and causing moh and attachment with those we share jhoot with.

Eh?...Animals all exchange fluids when they mate or to show affection?

Exchange?...that denotes a two way process....but mating is one-way...during mating fluid goes from the male to the female....in animals (not humans) what fluid exchange goes the other way?

If such fluid exchange in mating is Joot then all humans are the results of Joot..(i.e. sex)...an act (according to you) that breaks our spirituality and causing moh and attachment.

So all Guru's, Saints, and Bhagat who had children, their spirituality was broken because of the fluid exchange during sex?

What a load of bollocks!

Also according to your logic, if fluid exchange is jhoot which breaks our spirituality, then when a mother breast feeds her child, that will break her spirituality has well.

Now come to think of it, what about cow's milk...will drinking that break our spirituality if we drink that animal fluid?

What about all the bacteria and other organisms in your gut that are exchanging fluids with you....are they breaking your spirituality and causing moh and attachment in you?

If Joot is so bad then the warrior Khalsa should be banned from swimming...we don't want fluid exchange do we?...it's Joot...it'll 'break our spirituality and causing moh and attachment'!!!

If the Khaksa army ever come across a river then they wouldn't be able to swim across...can't risk getting fluid exchange from this fishes that live in the water!!

Without the Guru's Grace, how can logic and contemplation be bestowed?

And without logic and contemplation, how can the darkness of ignorance be dispelled?

[Guest jooth_hygiene]

its just hygiene, and its not just amrit-dharis that don;t eat jooth. also jooth doesn't just apply to food these days, also applies to partners!

[Guest Guest]

Huh?

I know married amrithdaree partners that have jooth.

I thought it's ok for amrithdaree couples to have each others jooth, as they are embarking on that spiritual path together.

[AnakinSkywalker]

its just hygiene, and its not just amrit-dharis that don;t eat jooth. also jooth doesn't just apply to food these days, also applies to partners!

In the Amrit ceremony, the participates drink from the same bowl, so what about hygiene then?...anyways that shows that jhoot doesn't apply to partners.

Amritdharis can eat and drink from the same bowl as other Amritdharis.

Once you realise that the real Jhoot to stay away from is the five vices you might then start progressing in your life.

[Guest jootha_hygiene]

no I meant as in someone is considered jootha if they had a partner before, even if they were amrit dhari or not lol

[Guest Guest]

Are you kidding me?

What a load of pants!

So what about in our past lives, we don't know about our past lives and how many partners we have had. If that was the case then everyone is considered jhoota lol

[HDSH]

sloku mÚ 1 ]

salok ma 1 ||

Salok, First Mehla:

jy kir sUqku mMnIAY sB qY sUqku hoie ]

jae kar soothak ma(n)neeai sabh thai soothak hoe ||

If one accepts the concept of impurity, then there is impurity everywhere.

gohy AqY lkVI AMdir kIVw hoie ]

gohae athai lakarree a(n)dhar keerraa hoe ||

In cow-dung and wood there are worms.

jyqy dwxy AMn ky jIAw bwJu n koie ]

jaethae dhaanae a(n)n kae jeeaa baajh n koe ||

As many as are the grains of corn, none is without life.

pihlw pwxI jIau hY ijqu hirAw sBu koie ]

pehilaa paanee jeeo hai jith hariaa sabh koe ||

First, there is life in the water (water has life), by which everything else is made green.

sUqku ikau kir rKIAY sUqku pvY rsoie ]

soothak kio kar rakheeai soothak pavai rasoe ||

How can it be protected from impurity? It touches our own kitchen.

nwnk sUqku eyv n auqrY igAwnu auqwry Doie ]1]

naanak soothak eaev n outharai giaan outhaarae dhhoe ||1||

O Nanak, impurity cannot be removed in this way; it is washed away only by spiritual wisdom. ||1||

Further along, Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Sahib Jee gives us the 'spiritual wisdom' (mentioned above)

mÚ 1 ]

ma 1 ||

First Mehla:

mn kw sUqku loBu hY ijhvw sUqku kUVu ]

man kaa soothak lobh hai jihavaa soothak koorr ||

The impurity of the mind is greed, and the impurity of the tongue is falsehood.

AKI sUqku vyKxw pr iqRA pr Dn rUpu ]

akhee soothak vaekhanaa par thria par dhhan roop ||

The impurity of the eyes is to gaze upon the beauty of another man's wife, and his wealth.

kMnI sUqku kMin pY lwieqbwrI Kwih ]

ka(n)nee soothak ka(n)n pai laaeithabaaree khaahi ||

The impurity of the ears is to listen to the slander of others.

nwnk hMsw AwdmI bDy jm puir jwih ]2]

naanak ha(n)saa aadhamee badhhae jam pur jaahi ||2||

O Nanak, (such a ) mortal's soul goes, bound and gagged to the city of Death. ||2||