Disrespectful "Track"!

[SikherOfTheNaam]

Vaaheguroo Jee Kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

So there I was searching for tracks by Snatam Kaur Phenjee and what did I find...

To say I am disgusted is an understatement!!!!

Vaaheguroo!

[SikhSpectrum]

[BhaiSukhSingh]

well this is what happens when we let people like the 3 HO modenise Sikhi

[Only five]

Before making a conclusion has any checked if she actually agreed to the background music, which completely distorts the words and can barely be heard. Sometimes and most of the time it's an individual who just puts the music in and the person who originally done it, has no clue.

But here is a question. What about all the kavi and Dhadi tracks that are out there with Rap and R&B beats added to them. Do you approve of those tracks? The way i look at it is that both are wrong. With the Rap and R&B songs, the original song can come to mind and they have very disgusting lyrics in these songs. Also in these remix Kavi or Dhadi tracks, you can hardly make out the words and the background music takes over. Same as this video in the op post.

Just before i get attacked for supporting 3HO. You should go through my post on 3HO and its visible I have critized them a lot, for there manmat ways and neither am I supporting this one at all.

[chatanga]

But here is a question. What about all the kavi and Dhadi tracks that are out there with Rap and R&B beats added to them. Do you approve of those tracks? The way i look at it is that both are wrong.

what about the way certain jathas do kirtan, without using the correct raag, just using any tunes and banging drums without inspiring spiritual elevation? That way is also wrong. if you want to term this track as disrespectful, then you should term all the disco, popular hindi filmy kirtan as worng and disrespectful as well.

The correct and respectful way to do kirtan is the way our Gurus told and showed us. None other.

[Only five]

what about the way certain jathas do kirtan, without using the correct raag, just using any tunes and banging drums without inspiring spiritual elevation? That way is also wrong.

Which jathas and kirtan are you refering too? It would be good if you can provide an example here.

if you want to term this track as disrespectful, then you should term all the disco, popular hindi filmy kirtan as worng and disrespectful as well.

Again, im have to ask you which flimy kirtan are you refering too?

[singh154]

Chatanga and only five what do you think about this kirtan. Do you think it is in line with gurmat to play the tabla like that?

Do you think it is fine to do kirtan like that because others still enjoy it even though it is not in raag?

[West London Singh]

what about the way certain jathas do kirtan, without using the correct raag, just using any tunes and banging drums without inspiring spiritual elevation? That way is also wrong. if you want to term this track as disrespectful, then you should term all the disco, popular hindi filmy kirtan as worng and disrespectful as well.

The correct and respectful way to do kirtan is the way our Gurus told and showed us. None other.

I agree. But I would go further than that and point out that the current way of doing kirtan...with the harmonium...is mot certainly not the way the Gurus told and showed us. Strictly speaking, the baja (harmonium) is the most disrespectful and unsikh way. This is true when you consider how it came to be used in our Gurdwaras. Traditionaly, the way our Gurus showed us, was with the rabab. However, after the second anglo-sikh war, Christian missionaries went out of their way to enforce upon us the instrument from France that was in the 19th century seen as the ecclesiatical sound of the church....the harmonium. The irony here then, is that it is Sikhs that respect the 19th century christian church instrument, that quite clearly has no place in Sikhism, who are most vocally criticising modern musical sounds.

[HeatSikhingMissile]

I agree. But I would go further than that and point out that the current way of doing kirtan...with the harmonium...is mot certainly not the way the Gurus told and showed us. Strictly speaking, the baja (harmonium) is the most disrespectful and unsikh way. This is true when you consider how it came to be used in our Gurdwaras. Traditionaly, the way our Gurus showed us, was with the rabab. However, after the second anglo-sikh war, Christian missionaries went out of their way to enforce upon us the instrument from France that was in the 19th century seen as the ecclesiatical sound of the church....the harmonium. The irony here then, is that it is Sikhs that respect the 19th century christian church instrument, that quite clearly has no place in Sikhism, who are most vocally criticising modern musical sounds.

Very well said West London Ji.

[Only five]

The irony here then, is that it is Sikhs that respect the 19th century christian church instrument, that quite clearly has no place in Sikhism, who are most vocally criticising modern musical sounds.

You need to read my post again. You did not get what I am saying. And Chatanga just touched on it, so I asked him to clarify what exactly he is pointing too. Sometimes it better to observe than jump the gun. Wait for what Chatanga has to say here.