Punjab Is Real.

[jss23]

I just came back from Punjab 2 weeks ago I can tell you this much as a conscious Singh, Punjab is the real deal.

In Canada, people are always thinking which leads to negativity such as jealousy, hatred, lust, greed, desires and etc. This is due to the evil spirited hearts that exists in this country. This is why reading books helps takes my mind off this crap.

When I went to Punjab (more specifically Amritsar) my mind was free. I didn't once think about money, pornography, or looked at a woman the wrong way, My heart was full and people automatically respected me.

My cousin told me that a lot of people born outside of India get looted or are hustled in shops because they consider us evil hearted people. They look down on us there. He told me people think with their hearts here and they will instantly recognize evil people due the negative energy they give off.

Then the topic of poor people came up. I asked him why are there so many people begging on the streets of Amritsar? He told me this is due to their past life. He said they had bad karma such as their hearts love gold more than god so now they are being punished. ("Born because of the karma of their past mistakes, they make more mistakes, and fall into mistakes" -Guru Granth Sahib).

This experience opened my eyes. The energy, the love, the respect of a man was real. This was the truth.

[LifeIsBeautiful]

Interesting experience,

[singher23]

I thought Punjab was imaginary...

Just kidding, interesting post

[singh135]

Congrats on your experience

But. Not entirely sure what 'real' means.

[VanHelsingh]

My experience is the exact opposite. Apart from the holy shrines, the place is running on borrowed time. Society is depraved and corrupt from top to bottom. There's pockets of good here and there but not enough to instill confidence for any kind of change for the future. The materialism is off the scale, the potential for paap is around every corner. You go visit somebody's house and you're not sure what you'll bring back with you... :nono:

But like I said, for me, the Gurudwaras are the only reason worth visiting Panjab; not just to stare at buildings but there really is a completely wonderful feeling of spirituality that I find to be worth suffering the negative experiences.

EDIT: After reading the first paragraph in isolation it sounds like I could be describing any city on earth. :lol2:

[West London Singh]

Then the topic of poor people came up. I asked him why are there so many people begging on the streets of Amritsar? He told me this is due to their past life. He said they had bad karma such as their hearts love gold more than god so now they are being punished.

This experience opened my eyes. The energy, the love, the respect of a man was real. This was the truth.

And how does that fit in with the simple fact that a Canadian / Uk style caring welfare state and no corruption would instantly end the dire poverty ? Ever thought of that ?

My own experiences of the real Punjab are completely different to yours. I think I've mentioned here before how when I was once in my pend a few years ago a daughter killed her mum by putting poisin in her hot milk because...... she wanted to make it easier for her boyfriend to sneak into her room at night,

Each day I read about the happenings in other pends.....mothers murdering their own little children because the children were getting in the way of their sordid affairs with boyfriends.......sons killing parents for drug money.......sons killing parents for land.......Everytime we go back to our house in the pend we find that someone has stolen anything that is movable and even things that we never imagined were stealable. The last time....we find that not only had they stolen the actual toilet but had also stolen the washers from the taps !!!!...........The average woman and man with the same level of sexual morals as the average person in the western council flats or projects, i.e a society where it is considered 'normal' and 'acceptable' for a woman to keep several boyfriends on the go at the same time....A completely ammoral society. An outright den of inequity. Now THAT, my friend, is the real Punjab. <edited>

[Sherdil]

Then the topic of poor people came up. I asked him why are there so many people begging on the streets of Amritsar? He told me this is due to their past life. He said they had bad karma such as their hearts love gold more than god so now they are being punished. ("Born because of the karma of their past mistakes, they make more mistakes, and fall into mistakes" -Guru Granth Sahib).

That line you are quoting from GGS states that we are reborn because of our past karma. God is giving us another chance to get it right. It doesn't say that he is punishing some by making them born poor.

[jss23]

That line you are quoting from GGS states that we are reborn because of our past karma. God is giving us another chance to get it right. It doesn't say that he is punishing some by making them born poor.

I agree. Desires in the hearts of conscious men is the reason why we have evil in this world. Fareed: "With greed, their is no love". Wars are caused because of men's desires not religion.

If these poor people in Amritsar can love god and remove these desires they will automatically gain respect.

[Sherdil]

I agree. Desires in the hearts of conscious men is the reason why we have evil in this world. Fareed: "With greed, their is no love". Wars are caused because of men's desires not religion.

If these poor people in Amritsar can love god and remove these desires they will automatically gain respect.

Brother, how can you assume that the poor are greedy and don't love God? You are implying that they are poor because they have sinned, and as such they deserve their fate. That is the kind of logic that higher castes used to subjugate the lower castes. Guru Nanak never thought like this. He always preferred the company of the poor over the company of the rich. It is a shame that even a single person should go hungry in Amritsar, a city founded on Sikh ideals and guru ka langar.

[jss23]

The greedy love god? Answer this question for me. Why does the poor in Punjab beg the outsiders for money the most? But not the people born in Punjab? My cousin has money, wear Armani shades with his fitted pagg but not a single poor person begged for money from him.