Sikhi and science

[alias]

Could Guru Sahib also be referring to reincarnation?

i believe so.

we after all, did go through chaurassi, and were given this maanas jorn, and we nw are given this understanding via that gurani tuk.

[Mehtab Singh]

Yeah its his own perspective based on his own research and knowledge, and since Gurbani is limitless, there always will be scope for a lot more. Tomorrow science will prove many other things already stated in Gurbani. I actually did briefly check out Big Bang and Black Hole theory he talks about. Didn't seem all that wrong to me in the context of how he related Gurbani to it. Anyways, we all have a lot of research and study to do, this veerji has taken the time out to do it and pass on whatever he could gather. Better to continue and proceed forward.

[HKaur16]

then he says about grbani saying before the sun and the moon, there was no tim.. when scienc and us, both kno that there were!

Well how could there be time before the universe was created? Our time is based off of the Earth's rotation around the sun. Besides that point I'm a little confused how could time exist when sun and moon didn't exist?

[alias]

yh, it was his perspective Singh559, but he passes it off as fact. this is where pseudo-sikhi comes into it.

before the sun and moon, was energy. as atoms condensed from the gas nebluae clouds, (into hydrogen, a better was to 'back up' "..pavanai te jal hoi" btw.. ) then, after the big bang, before the moon and stars, there was time. so before the celestial bodies existed, and after the big bang, there was time.

>science says< there was no time before the big bang, (so, god cnnot exist as god cannot exist outside of time; we know god can),

further, time indicates a series of events occuring. so, as the 11D universe exists, the membrane that all other 9 dimentions live on, (in the 10th dimention), could have events in a series one after the other. however, as this is quantum physics, its unlikely time exists here, because effects can be measured and seen, before it was caused.

so mainstream science, time is 4th, and can be created in the 5th... (dimention)

[Mehtab Singh]

http://www.samachar....kpoOscggge.html

Scientists have discovered that the most likely source of water on Moon is the constant stream of charged particles from the Sun known as the solar wind.

From the True Lord came the air, and from the air came water.

[Mehtab Singh]

Just found this book: http://www.sikhs.wellington.net.nz/Sikh_Religion.pdf

[alias]

http://www.samachar....kpoOscggge.html

the charged particles break oxygen bonds of oxygen on the gravel, then the oxygen bonds to hydrogen forming water. but to say that solar wind makes water is like saying, because somone can decide to write gurbani in form of guru, then they must be god. just because it happens, you cant link the two, and make the claim.

besides, i dont think it can happen to a significant enough degree to even make a drop of water.... most of the water came from asteroids... but this is mst likely 'deep inside the moon' water as this is the most significant source of water on planetary bodies... one of saturns moons has liquid water.. amazing!.. could support life.

this is muh more interesting than water on moon

http://www.npr.org/2012/08/05/158170844/life-on-mars-try-one-of-saturn-s-moons-instead

[Mehtab Singh]

Hydrogen and oxygen combine to form water, and both are gases.

[alias]

^, yh.. i tihnk thats what i learnt in science class (but i could be wrong .. hehe)

but if u suggest that thats how sun particles create water on the moon (in minor quantities), thas rong far as i see..

[Mehtab Singh]

ok