Central London in the early hours

[Guest West London Singh]

No you don't understand Mehtab Singh. What I'm saying is that if the police investigation proves there is no Sikh link which means one of 2 things :

1) it was an inside job by the Indian High Commission designed to interfere with British poltical policy, destabalise community relations and descredit British subjects..or...

2) It was a simple street robbert and the Brars gave false statements and wasted police time ...i.e lied.

Either way, we're not giving away any sinister secrets or plans here. We're simply discussing what we should we discussing. Similarily, there's nothing India could do to counter what official police investigations find....what mainstream media find etc. What are they gonna do ? Spread rumours that Scotland Yard are affiliated with Babbar Khalsa ?

We...the Sikhs...have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide.....therefore you are wrong to suggest we display a guilty feeling by doing things sneakily on the hush hush.

They....the Indians....have (possibly) done everything wrong. They, (possibly, if the investigation proves the non-sikh link), have nowhere to hide and everything to lose. Unless they possess a nuclear powered time machine with which they can go back in time and undo what they have done there is nothing they can do or say now to counter our onslaught. No slick Indian media relations machine can undo what is already done.

Now...you ask who will do what needs to be done...i,e inform the police, push the police, inform the media, push the media, inform the govt, push the govt ?

The answer is all of us. Each and every one of us. We all have a part to play. For a star, since this 'assassination attempt' story broke, the Indian internet media has been full of comments by Indians threatening genocide and massacres against Sikhs. Those mass threats should be monitered and collected in print form. No doubt there has been some actual physical violence against Sikhs in India. That should also be documented and collected. Everthing should be collected as evidence. etc etc

[chatanga]

WLS, i was wondering where you went. Mods, let his exile finish please.

[Mehtab Singh]

therefore you are wrong to suggest we display a guilty feeling by doing things sneakily on the hush hush.

No guilty, just need to be careful was my point.

the Indian internet media has been full of comments by Indians threatening genocide and massacres against Sikhs

Well let them bring it on!!! Barking dogs seldom bite. They will think 10 million times before repeating 1984, because they know it will backfire bigtime.

[Singh559]

WLS I have made a similar post making the same suggestions as you did. How can we ensure Sikhs are proactive In doing this.

Can't you organise United Sikhs Uk and Khalsa Aid and Sikhs for justice to aid investigation and to make a powerhouse of a voice.

Easy to say bit how to do this ? We need to contact Sikh org reps and bring a very straight forward goal of what you mentioned.

Have to act today otherwise any day delayed will mean a lot less.

[Singh559]

I have Ravi Singh added on Facebook but dont know any United Sikhs UK rep. Is Sikhs for justice in the uk?

[dalsingh101]

WLS

If you're a police man (and tell us if you are), why don't you go and badger your superiors about it?

[dalsingh101]

Plus if WLS is coming off moderation, make it a prerequisite that he restrains himself from shameless Brit book licking and pro-Hogi caste nonsense. lol!

[Guest West London singh]

WLS

If you're a police man (and tell us if you are), why don't you go and badger your superiors about it?

I'm not a police man. I'm a poor man doing a Phd without any funding. Working manual jobs to fund my research as well as volunteering as a legal adviser. All this while bringing up 2 small children and maintaining the family home. Still, despite having shallow pockets and little time I do my bit when and where i can.

Now is not the time to score cheap points Dal Singh. Now is the time for you to step up and do your bit too. I don't have the time, but seeing as you can write in a clear professional manner, may I politely suggest you start penning a letter to Ian Hislop's Private Eye magazine. Don't post it yet, as we don't know where we stand yet, but not only would they would be more than interested in the potential police / security services / Indian collusion to cover up justice, their readership is the most influential and powerful people in the country......who, like the rest of us, read it cover to cover and never miss out a single paragraph.

[dalsingh101]

WLS

Not point scoring, it's a genuine concern how people like yourself corrode impressionable farmer children with your half baked ideas of 'identity' which are clearly derived from some buffoon, 19th century white supremacist, colonial orientalist.

That Private Eye idea is not a bad one btw. The best that could be achieved is a 'flagging' of sorts which they may take up, even if it is a one inch piece somewhere. I doubt it would do any more than cause an eyebrow or two to be raised with some of the readership (could be wrong though).

But as you've indicated, not much could be written that isn't hearsay and conjecture right now. We need investigative journalists on the case, interviewing other witnesses and whatnot. And let's be frank, no one seems to give enough of a monkeys (in the Brit tabloids) to do this right now?

Maybe the DM would get indignant about the uppity natives coming here and trying something like this or something? lol

[chatanga]

may I politely suggest you start penning a letter to Ian Hislop's Private Eye magazine. Don't post it yet, as we don't know where we stand yet, but not only would they would be more than interested in the potential police / security services / Indian collusion to cover up justice, their readership is the most influential and powerful people in the country......who, like the rest of us, read it cover to cover and never miss out a single paragraph.

The readership of PE is the most influential? thats interesting. what makes you say that?