Caste system divide - when will it ever stop

[Beard]

This is one of the most annoying things, jatts will say, "we don't think we are superior, we are just proud of who we are and our ancestors, and acknowledge that there are differences" and then they will proceed to list off ways they are superior and how others are inferior. Non-jatts will say, "jatts think they are better than us, they are arrogant, its their fault that that the caste divide will never end"

It seems as if both sides equally discriminate the other.

I went to a wedding of a Tarkhan man a few months ago, they had assigned seating based on "friends", when you walked in and sat down, you noticed that everyone of the same caste was seated together, in different parts of the hall. I didn't know anyone at my table, and my friends were on different tables.

I also know a few parents who don't want their kids doing bhangra because "eh jattan da kam ah".

At the same time, i know alot of jatts that will purposely blast jatt-pride songs infront of non-jatts, they'll treat them differently, and they will make fun of them non-stop behind their backs, "bhapey this and that"

And I've heard countless times that "I'm going to marry in my caste, I don't even consider anyone else, its just how it is"

I know this probably gets talked about alot, but I just get really sick of hearing all these things, I just had to vent this out. I understand how alot of people believe what they believe, but its especially annoying when I see sardar's with full dharhi's who are supposed to represent our religion and what we believe, who can tell me anything detail from sikh history that I want to know off the top of their head, who can translate random lines of gurbani for me.....discriminate against one another just based on caste. It doesn't make any sense to me.

[Unbreakable]

in short. No it will not.

[Jonny101]

in short. No it will not.

Haha, that's exactly what I was gonna say

[Singh559]

Sad to read, but it's true.

Segregation of castes, segregation of jathas, segregation of everything

[VanHelsingh]

It's human nature I suppose. I think we all know that we do have the tools (i.e. our Sikh faith) at our disposal to overcome these problems.

[Jangal Da]

Caste or ethnic group discrimination is unacceptable. Having differences otherwise, based on caste or ethnic group is something to be valued in terms of its diversification. I had a Ramgarhia friend in college who was good at DIY (not my forte at all - got him to put up my shelves for me) and I used to joke that is because of his Tarkhan heritage, whilst he'd admire my garden/ veg plot (his was overgrown and wild and I cleared it for him) and in the same joking vein he'd say its because of my Jatt background. Now either way this does not make any difference in the real world. Not every Tarkhan is a born carpenter and not every Jatt is a born farmer.

When I am back in my pendh I go to the gym in the mornings and its quite a small room above the school, with meagre and basic equipment by western standards. However all the lads are there - Jatt, Churah, Chamar, Kamboh, Bahman...Everyone helps each other eg spotting for someone and everyone sweats togather - never seen any caste discrimination. As long as you contribute Rs200 a month then you're one of the boys!

What I cannot stand is the reservation system in India. Positive discrimination is just an excuse for a poor education sytem that fails the less well off. Its like here in my country (the UK), I do not like the way some universities add weight to the fact that a school is regarded as disadvantaged and therefore bump up the face value grades.

Why be upset about being told that you are to marry within a certain group - our Gurus did not marry out of caste. Your parents will choose someone with your best interests at heart.

[Guest dasguruka]

Can we stop worrying about what people think of others and actually focus our attention on the Guru? This could solve it. If everyone realized that they're only deceiving themselves by being labeled and ignoring the bigger picture then the castes wouldn't matter.

[Dev1975]

We are all stupid human beings who can't help label each other. Caste is one sickness that will never be cured, unfortunately.

[Mehtab Singh]

tusi kee hunne aa?

asi jee bande hunne aa?

nai fer vi...

hajay vi bande ee hunne aa jee

[panthicunity]

Jaat ka garb na kar moorkah gavaara

is garab te chalat bahut vikaraa