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Well, Jinnah was ready to live in United India. Read 14 points of Jinnah...It was nehru who betrayed Jinnah at the last moment...only option left was to either accept the Hindu tyranny or go for an independent new state...

Even under united india..hindus would have been ruling india..not Muslims...remember, majority rules in democracy...

At the time what jinnah chose he thought it would be better because he was thinking immediate short term gains instead of thinking long term. The biggest winners of the Partition are not Muslims, but Hindus. Had partition not taken place there would have been over half a billion Muslims in India. This would have almost been an even counter balance to the Hindu population. The Hindus could not have suppressed such a HUGE minority. The partition not only divided the Indian Muslims but also weakened them greatly.

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I mean losing side as in bluestar was 45 vs 10,000

Chamkaur was 48 vs 1million/200,000

By that estimate, hindus are 20-100 times stronger than muslims.

You are a Sikh. You can marry even 1 month old..not unexpected.

Wrong. Sikhs oppose pedophilia and pedophiles. Guess which religion was founded by a 54 year old man that had sex with a 9year old child called Aisha.

You like cross dressing? Well, go to some Gurudwara then...

From the Sahih Collection of al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 2442

Chapter 52. Book of Setting Free, VII: The one who gave a gift to his friend aiming for a time when he was with one of his wives rather than another.

It is related from 'A'isha that the wives of the messenger of Allah fell into two parties. One party contained 'A'isha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sawda, and the other party contained Umm Salama and the rest of the wives of the messenger of Allah. The Muslims knew of the love of the messenger of Allah for 'A'isha, so when any of them had a gift which he wanted to give to the messenger of Allah he would delay it until the messenger of Allah was in 'A'isha's house. Then the person with the gift would send it to the messenger of Allah while he was in 'A'isha's house. The party of Umm Salama spoke about it and said to her, "Tell the messenger of Allah to speak to the people and say, 'Whoever wants to give a gift to the messenger of Allah should give it to him in the house of whichever wife he is.'" Umm Salama spoke to him about what they had said, but he did not say anything. They asked her and she said, "He did not say anything to me." They said to her, "Speak to him." She said she spoke to him when he went around to her as well, but he did not say anything to her. They asked her and she said, “He did not say anything to me.” They said to her, “Speak to him until he speaks to you.” He went around to her and she spoke to him. He said to her, “Do not injure me regarding 'A'isha. The revelation does not come to me when I am in the GARMENT of any woman except 'A'isha.” She said, "I repent to Allah from injuring you, Messenger of Allah.” Then they called Fatima, the daughter of the messenger of Allah, and sent her to the messenger of Allah to say, “Your wives ask you by Allah for fairness regarding the daughter of Abu Bakr.” She spoke to him and he said, “O my daughter, do you not love what I love?” She said, “Yes indeed.” She returned to them and informed them. They said, “Go back to him,” but she refused to go back. They sent Zaynab bint Jahsh and she went to him and spoke harshly, saying. “Your wives ask you by Allah for fairness regarding the daughter of ibn Abi Quhafa.” She raised her voice until she turned to 'A'isha, who was sitting down, and abused her until the messenger of Allah looked at 'A'isha to see if she would speak. ‘A'isha spoke to answer back Zaynab until she had silenced her. She said, “The prophet looked at 'A'isha and said, ‘She is indeed the daughter of Abu Bakr.’”

Tell that Sikh regiment to first free khalistan from hindus...wait, never mind...same sikh regiment butchered Bhindrawale at Golden temple...they can't even protect their own sacred places.

Pathetic attempt to imply that Sikhs are weak.

We won’t forget those who hates Sikhs in Delhi and Pakistan.

Bhai Sukha Singh And Bhai Mehtab Singh

After the invasion of Nadir Shah and acting on his advice Nawab Zakaria Khan decided to totally exterminate the Sikh community once for all. To achieve this objective, he issued instructions to his officials and to village heads to kill or arrest alive Sikhs, wherever and whenever found. He also announced cash rewards of Rupees ten, fifty and eighty respectively for informers, killers and arresters of the Sikhs.

As a result of these orders of Zakaria Khan, the Governor of Lahore (now in Pakistan) thousands of Sikhs, men, women and children were killed and arrested without any rhyme or reason. The notorious village heads and officials who carried out the orders of the Governor to gain his favours were Karma of village Chheena, Rama Randhawa of village Talwandi, Sahib Rai Sandhu of village Naushehra Dhaala, Har Bhagat Niranjania of village Jandiala, Dharam Das Topi of Jodhnagar and village heads of villages Naushehdra Punuan and Majitha. They sent cart loads of heads of Sikhs to Lahore, in addition to thousands arrested and sent to Lahore for execution in a merciless manner publicly in Lahore daily. They even killed women and presented their heads for reward.

Massa Ranghar, the village head of Mandially exceeded all limits and behaved in a most hated, mischievous and offensive manner, hurting religious sentiments of Sikhs, after he was handed over charge of Sri Darbar Sahib (Golden Temple), in Amritsar. The premises was captured earlier by the Governement forces.

He used parikarma of the premises as stable for horses and main Hall of holy Golden Temple as a Dancing Room. He would seat himself on a beautiful cot (Palang), smoke hukka and watch prostitutes dancing in the main hall of the most sacred place of the Sikh community. Around the building he had posted armed guards to prevent entry of anyone and everyone without permission.

Due to persecution in Punjab the Sikhs had moved to hills, Jungles, ravines and deserts. One such group (Jatha) of Sikhs was temporarily camping near Jaipur City in Rajasthan. Some-one communicated to them the sad news of desecration of Harimandir Sahib at Amritsar.

The heart rendering account of misdeeds of Massa Ranghar sent shock waves through the hearts of all the sikhs present there. One among them, Bhai Mehtab Singh immediately jumped to his feet and volunteered himself to punish the culprit Massa Rangar forthwith.

He announced that he would serve the head of the wretched Massa in Amritsar and bring it back in Jaipur to show the same to all Sikhs present here. Another Sikh named Bhai Sukha Singh volunteered to accompany Mehtab Singh, to help him accomplish the sacred task. Both were granted permission by the Jatha chief and an ardas was held for the success of their mission.

Both Bhai Sukha Singh and Bhai Mehtab Singh immediately proceeded towards Amritsar and arrived there in the month of August, 1740. They put on the garbs of village chaudharies and carried with them a bag full of well ground pieces of broken earthen wared and thus it appeared that the bag was full of coins.

They straightway headed for Harmandir Sahib. On arriving there, they told the guards who checked their entry into the premises that they were village heads and had come to deposit land revenue with Massa Ranghar. Thus they managed to befool the guards and gained entry to Harimandir Sahib. They tied their horses with a tree near the entrance of the Harimandir Sahib now reveredly known as Lachi Ber and proceeded further.

They found Massa Ranghar sitting on his cot fully intoxicated, smoking Hukka and watching dancing prostitutes. The scene enraged them. Bhai Sukha Singh remained near the door of main hall while Bhai Mahtab Singh went inside. He threw the bag under Massa’s cot and said, “ Here is land revenue.”

Massa Rangar happily bent down to pick up the bag supposed to be full of coins. Bhai Mehtab Singh drew out his sword swiftly and with its single blow, cut off the head of Massa Rangar. Those present inside were stunned by the sudden development and ran helter shelter.

In the meantime the two brave Sikhs took away the severed head of Massa Rangar, rode their horses and vanished from the scene before the guards could recover and realise what had happened inside Harimandir Sahib. They went straight to Jaipur showed Massa’s severed head to their Jathedar and othe colleagues there by redeeming their pledge.

When Zakaria Khan, the Governor of Lahore, came to know of murder of Mass Rangar his anger knew no bounds. He immediately summoned village heads of all villages around Amritsar and ordered them to find out and arrest the culprits forthwith.

Harbhagat Niranjania suspected it to be the handi-work of Bhai Mehtab Singh of Minarkot village. He told Zakaria Khan about his suspicion. Noorudin Faujdar, proceeded to Mirankot village accompanied by a band of soldiers with orders to arrest Bhai Mehtab Singh.

Bhai Mehtab Singh was not present at his home but his infant son, Rai Singh was there. While leaving the village, Bhai Mehtab Singh had left his son in the safe custody of a noble person and his friend Natha Khaira. When Natha Khaira came to know of arrival of Govt. soldiers for arresting Bhai Mehtab Singh, he escaped from the village accompanied by Mehtab Singh’s son Rai Singh with the help of his friends.

Nooruddin Faujdar come to know of the escape of the child Rai Singh and hotly pursued Natha’s party and caught up with the escapes. Natha and his trusted friends put up a brave fight and died fighting. The child Rai Singh was also gravely injured. Taking the child as dead, the Govt. soldiers went away.

A kind woman passing that way happened to notice the child who was still alive. She took the child home and with her care and proper treatment the child recovered from the injuries fully.

Five years later, in 1745 A.D., Bhai Mehtab Singh visited his village home to see his son. He was arrested with the help of some informer. He was brought to Lahore. Zakaria Khan ordered his execution through a most dreadful method.

Bhai Mehtab Singh was put on the Charkhari (Consisting of two wheels fitted with sharp nails). The Charkhari (the two wheels) was rotated and the body of Bhai Mehtab Singh was cut by the iron nails fitted on the wheels, bit by bit. Thus Bhai Mehtab Singh was put to death in a brutal manner, but he was happy to lay down his life with the satisfaction that the desecration of the Sacred Harimandir Sahib had been avenged by him by the killing of Massa Ranghar.

Bhai Sukha Singh attained his martyrdom in 1753 while fighting the Mughal army on the banks of the river Ravi.

By his action, he proved that Sikhs do not tolerate desecration of their holy places and hold sancity of their holy places more dear than their lives.

Islam is often described as fastest spreading major religion by many...fastest dying? Yeah right...dream on..what else you can do?

The more people learn about the Quran and Muhammad the more people leave it secretly

Indians spit on sikhs? Spit on their holy sites? I feel sorry for you.

But in Pakistan, nothing like that happens....

Yeah Indians might spit but in Pakistan a quarter of the Sikh population living there in 1947 gets killed.

And yeah..Muslims were handed defeat and were manipulated thats why Muslims ruled india for 1000 years..and then divided India into 3 states...two Muslim-majority, one hindu majority...and even in hindu majority part...hundreds of millions of Muslims live....lol

Weird how you celebrate your Hindu ancestors being converted by the sword of Aurangzeb and others into Islam

Ever wondered why there were no Christians in Arabian peninsula before immigration and European arrival? lol....

Then why did Prophet Muhamad own many slaves from a Christian background. Khadija one of Muhammad’s multiple wives and slavegirls even had a Christian cousin herself even though she was from the Qureshi caste too.

Can you explain how am I on the 'losing end'? Please, explain. If you convince me, I'll probably jump to the other - winning - side...

Interesting that you don’t believe in Islam because of the moral greatness of a paedophile or slaveowner but support Islam only because you see it as the winning side.

btw, the very fact you have to say this again and again shows that you are hopeless..hopeless like all other anti-Islamic forces..You know that you are just utterly unable to stop the march of Islam...

The Quran and Muhammad’s life (in which he had sex with a 9year old Aisha) stop any march of Islam dead in the water.

Top 10 Controversial Verses in the Qur'an

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As the title suggests, this page lists the top 10 most controversial verses found within the Qur'an. This page is simply an overview, it does not deal with the apologetic objections that have been brought forth in recent times by a minority number of Western apologists. Articles dealing with any such objections are linked below their corresponding verses.

[edit] 10. "Beat Them"

This verse advises men to beat their wives if they don't obey them:

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Qur'an 4:34

Qur'an 5:38 orders cutting of hands of a thief.

See related: Wife Beating in Islam and Beat your Wives or "Separate from Them"? (Qur'an 4:34)

[edit] 9. "Cut off their hands"

This verse orders a gruesome irreversible punishment for thieves, robbing them of a chance to rehabilitate, improve as human beings and become a productive member of society later on. As an example, Terrence Barkley got arrested on his 16th birthday for stealing cars but interestingly that resulted in him getting out of gangs and into college to study criminal justice at the University of Central Missouri.[1] If Terrence's hands and feet had been cut off according to Islamic laws, none of this would have been possible.

As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise."

Qur'an 5:38

Sura 5:33 orders the cutting off of the hands and feet of those who wage war against Allah and his Messenger.

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

Qur'an 5:33

See related: Amputation. For other punishments in Islam, see: Punishments

[edit] 8. A man may marry four wives

This verse allows a man to marry up to four wives:

If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

Qur'an 4:3

Polygamy is highly controversial and not socially accepted in most parts of the modern world. See related: Polygamy

[edit] 7. A man can marry a girl who hasn't reached puberty

This highly controversial Qur'anic verse prescribes the waiting period of a female who has not yet reached puberty thereby permitting men to have sex with girls who have not reached puberty:

"Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy."

Qur'an 65:4

Read the detailed analysis of this verse in our article: Pedophilia in the Qur'an

[edit] 6. A man can have sex with prisoners of war

This verse allows men to have sex with women who are prisoners of war:

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

Qur'an 33:50

See related: Rape in Islam

Qur'an 2:65 mentions that Jews who broke the Sabbath were turned into Apes.

[edit] 5. Turned into Apes

People who broke the Sabbath were turned into apes:

"And you know well the story of those among you who broke Sabbath. We said to them: "Be apes—despised and hated by all. Thus We made their end a warning to the people of their time and succeeding generation, and an admonition for God-fearing people."

Qur'an 2:65

See related: Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Islamic Silliness and Islamic Antisemitism

[edit] 4. A man may marry the wife of his adopted son

Muhammad married Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son. This verse suggests that the adopter may marry the wife of his adopted son and vice-versa:

"Allah has not made for any man two hearts within him; nor has He made your wives whose backs you liken to the backs of your mothers as your mothers, nor has He made those whom you assert to be your sons your real sons; these are the words of your mouths; and Allah speaks the truth and He guides to the way."

Qur'an 33:4

See related: Concerns with Islam: Adoption

2:282 and Qur'an 4:11 declare that a woman is only half the worth of a man in terms of witness and inheritance.

[edit] 3. A woman's witness testimony is half of that of a man's

This verse says the witness testimony of one man is equivalent to the witness testimony of two women:

"O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time, then write it down; and let a scribe write it down between you with fairness; and the scribe should not refuse to write as Allah has taught him, so he should write; and let him who owes the debt dictate, and he should be careful of (his duty to) Allah, his Lord, and not diminish anything from it; but if he who owes the debt is unsound in understanding, or weak, or (if) he is not able to dictate himself, let his guardian dictate with fairness; and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other; and the witnesses should not refuse when they are summoned; and be not averse to writing it (whether it is) small or large, with the time of its falling due; this is more equitable in the sight of Allah and assures greater accuracy in testimony, and the nearest (way) that you may not entertain doubts (afterwards), except when it is ready merchandise which you give and take among yourselves from hand to hand, then there is no blame on you in not writing it down; and have witnesses when you barter with one another, and let no harm be done to the scribe or to the witness; and if you do (it) then surely it will be a transgression in you, and be careful of (your duty) to Allah, Allah teaches you, and Allah knows all things."

Qur'an 2:282

Related to this verse is Muhammad saying that women are deficient in intelligence

[edit] 2. A woman inherits half of what a man inherits

This verse says that a woman inherits half of what a man inherits:

"Allah enjoins you concerning your children: The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females; then if they are more than two females, they shall have two-thirds of what the deceased has left, and if there is one, she shall have the half; and as for his parents, each of them shall have the sixth of what he has left if he has a child, but if he has no child and (only) his two parents inherit him, then his mother shall have the third; but if he has brothers, then his mother shall have the sixth after (the payment of) a bequest he may have bequeathed or a debt; your parents and your children, you know not which of them is the nearer to you in usefulness; this is an ordinance from Allah: Surely Allah is Knowing, Wise."

Qur'an 4:11

Qur'an 9:29 This is just one of many verses found in the Qur'an which encourages Islamic terrorism.

[edit] 1. Fight non-Muslims

This widely known verse orders Muslims to fight non-Muslims simply because they do not believe in the same God that Muslims do:

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

Qur'an 9:29

This is just one of the verses in the Qur'an which encourages Islamic terrorism. This verse, together with verse 9:5 (the "Verse of the Sword"), has abrogated 122 peaceful verses.[2] See related: Terrorism

edit - Also I'm sure you've read Babbarnama in which in length, he describes his crush on a young boy? You've heard of bachabaazi? You've heard of the hazari dinarii kafir. You being Punjabi go against your own blood;

Are you aware that your own ancestors never took as zelously to Islam as you do? The sufi tradition is basically a spirtual one similar to sikhi as you may know, pre-independance it was not uncommon for a punjabi 'muslim' sufi sikh to have a bramin at his wedding. British accounts of the Sarkar-i-Khalsa point out the fact that all wore turbans and kept hair, and they couldn't tell who was who.

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I have a question for you, where would Islam be without oil? And as you know since it was primarily spread by the sword, being militarily weak now, how do you think this will continue?

Also, as a pakistani how do you feel about the fact that Nixon saved your country by threatening to nuke India, esp. the Sikhs if they went deeper than Lahore when they had the initiative in the various wars?

I don't feel I should learn a second language in my discourse with you, when you've shown no indication of proper respect, or knowledge for your mother tongue.

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Btw, I don't think you know the extent of scythian tribes I suggest you research this.

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I do like to cross-dress, I learn well from my Pakistani brothers;

"At the outset I want to record that you all must love me very much as you have decided not to take over my property in Swat unlike those you have taken over of other landed families. I am therefore emboldened to believe that I have the privilege of sharing some historical facts for you to know about and I urge you to absorb the same before you continue your campaign of moral policing, especially when it comes to the manner of dressing and code of conduct for women.

The Sikh army of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, under the leadership of Hari Singh Nalwa came to the Frontier in the 1820's and swiftly conquered our ancestors. It is the only time in recorded history that our people were ruled over by foreigners. The locals were so utterly terrified of the Sikh army that they used to hide every time the Sikhs came into view. Those that decided to resist were met with ruthlessness. During this time, the word was spread around that the Sikhs did not harm elderly people, women and children and that the local men who did not wish to earn wrath of the Sikhs should wear the garb of Punjabi women, which was the Salwar-Kameez. At that time in our history both men and women alike, wore only a single-robe garment (similar to that worn by the Arabs) and the Sikhs would not harm any man either when wearing the Salwar-Kameez.

So you see, our men happily adopted the garb of Punjabi women since they were too terrified to stand up and they have adopted the garb as being theirs' ever since. I am very intrigued to see that you are following in the footsteps of your ancestors by wearing the adopted Punjabi women's garb as your own, but now go around preaching and coercing our women as to how they should be living their lives! I suggest that take a deep look inside yourselves, given this historical perspective."

Sincerely,

Miangul Aurangzeb, Wali of Swat

(Source: Nishaan, Swat: Sanctuary for the Sikhs, III/2009, New Delhi: Nagaara Trust, p. 45)

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