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Was Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale A Congress Agent?

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hi me and my friend were randomly talking about punjab and than conversation switched to bhindrawale/khalistan movement. He is telling me that sant ji was a congress agent sent by indra gandhi to go against the akali's but than he turned on her thus leading to 1984 is this true?? He also said that uneducated pendu's supported bhindrawale and no one in the cities did and he also said everyone in india knows he was a congress agent??

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hi me and my friend were randomly talking about punjab and than conversation switched to bhindrawale/khalistan movement. He is telling me that sant ji was a congress agent sent by indra gandhi to go against the akali's but than he turned on her thus leading to 1984 is this true?? He also said that uneducated pendu's supported bhindrawale and no one in the cities did and he also said everyone in india knows he was a congress agent??

in around 84, the vast majority of city folks were Hindus. Back then very few Sikhs were living in the cities. Hindus so much dominated the cities back then that if they wanted they could easily bully around a lone Sikh they found. This happened in front of my uncle and his friend who saw 3 Hindus beating a lone Sikh in Ludhiana city in 84 right after the blue star attack. They took his turban off and began pulling his kesh. My uncle and his friend both got off their motor cycle and saved the Sikh and beat up the Hindus with their hockey sticks. Back then Sikhs had a sense of unity. Today, Sikhs have a large presence in the cities, as we recently saw in the Rajoana protests when Bandar Sena activists tried to cause trouble, Sikhs in the cities in large numbers opposed them, of course they were also joined by a large number of village youth.

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Sant Ji and Damdami Taksal openly supported Congress in the 1980 elections but they realised after that Indira Gandhi and Zail Sin were simply using Damdami Taksal to oppose Sant Longowal and the Akali's agenda of Anandpur Sahib resolution. So the more Indira Gandhi's anti-Sikh agenda became obvious the more Sant Ji started to oppose Congress. Until at the end Congress had Sant Ji as public enemy number 1. Sant Ji never once asked for Khalistan as he realised painting Sikhs as anti-India was a Congress ploy to sabotage the Anandpur Sahib resolution. Now most Indian intellectuals are openly admitting Sant Ji was a galant defender of human rights for all people including Hindu's as the truth is blatantly out now that ALL terrorism was done by the GOI and Indira Gandhi's Black Cats led by Azhar Muhammad Alam.

It's funny how anyone who cared about the Panth from Sant Ji to Sant Longowal was always labelled a Congress stooge even when they gave their lives for the Panth.

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Sant Ji and Damdami Taksal openly supported Congress in the 1980 elections but they realised after that Indira Gandhi and Zail Sin were simply using Damdami Taksal to oppose Sant Longowal and the Akali's agenda of Anandpur Sahib resolution. So the more Indira Gandhi's anti-Sikh agenda became obvious the more Sant Ji started to oppose Congress. Until at the end Congress had Sant Ji as public enemy number 1. Sant Ji never once asked for Khalistan as he realised painting Sikhs as anti-India was a Congress ploy to sabotage the Anandpur Sahib resolution. Now most Indian intellectuals are openly admitting Sant Ji was a galant defender of human rights for all people including Hindu's as the truth is blatantly out now that ALL terrorism was done by the GOI and Indira Gandhi's Black Cats led by Azhar Muhammad Alam.

It's funny how anyone who cared about the Panth from Sant Ji to Sant Longowal was always labelled a Congress stooge even when they gave their lives for the Panth.

longowal was a congress agent,he with tohra was biggest enemy of panth ...longowal opposed santji bcoz of growing popularity of santji....in reality he was longowal who persuaded indra to attack golden temple to get rid of santji....its all written in gallant defender which savinderpalsingh veerji told us above.....

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1. longowal was a congress agent,he with tohra was biggest enemy of panth ...2. longowal opposed santji bcoz of growing popularity of santji....3. in reality he was longowal who persuaded indra to attack golden temple to get rid of santji....4. its all written in gallant defender which savinderpalsingh veerji told us above.....

1. Veerji i totally disagree with u. Longowal and Tohra were 100% in Sikh camp and wanted Anandpur Sahib implementation. The Congress agent accusation labelled against Longowal and Bhindrawale is an insult to both Sants who sacrificed their lives for the Panth.

2. Longowal opposed Bhindrawale at a limited internal level within the Panth because Damdami Taksal and Sant Ji openly campaigned for Congress in 1980, however on a level of facing common enemy Indira Gandhi Sant Ji and Longowal were united for the Sikh Panth and Anandpur Sahib resolution in 1984.

3. Total nonsense. If you believe that u will believe anything. This is same reasoning why uneducated people say Sant Ji was Congress stooge. Indira Gandhi herself attacked Harmandir Sahib in order to get Hindutva vote and attack Sikh Panth. To accuse Longowal of this is ridiculous and only people born in 1990's have been fed these lies to discredit our entire Panth's historic leadership.

4. Galant Defender book (which i also mentioned above) is a great book for exposing the lies that Sant Ji was a terrorist BUT that does not mean that everything written about others like Longowal who were behind Anandpur Sahib resolution originally and who later realised the futility of open fight with enemies with 100-1000 times more soldiers+resources is correct. Longowal and Tohra knew full well that Indira Gandhi wanted to attack Harmandir Sahib so they tried to avoid that and even the Rajiv-Longowal accord was done for strategic reason to avoid a whole generation of Sikhs being killed off as Justice Khalra proved. I think we should respect all those who gave their life in service to the Panth rather than accuse them of being Congress stooges. Same accusations were made against Master Tara Singh despite the fact that in 1947 in Punjab Sikhs were only 13% minority. How many minorities get independence where there is 13% minority like African Americans in USA? The answer in 1947 and nowadays is hardly any. History is getting badly distorted with Nangs like Niddar even claiming that Hindu Mahants should have been back in control of Harmandir Sahib in 1920 + the Akali's who liberated our Gurdwara's are instead labelled as biggest enemies of our Panth. Now people who dedicated their life to Anandpur Sahib resolution are wrongly labelled as traitors of Sikh Panth. People of Fatehgarh Sahib District know Tohra was no sellout + same with all Anandpur Sahib resolution supporters from 1970's nobody will accuse Longowal Sahib of what u did. Can i ask how old u are Veerji as my guess is u were born in 1990's + u got these idea's from books maybe rather than what people on the ground know. Not a personal insult just my guess given your opinions? Also i'm guessing u are not from Fatehgarh Sahib district either?

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KUSHIA DA JAIKARA GUJAVE AKALI SANT JARNAIL SINGH JI KHALSA BHINDRANWALE NU MUN NU PAVE ... SAT SRI AKAAAAAL!!!

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1. Veerji i totally disagree with u. Longowal and Tohra were 100% in Sikh camp and wanted Anandpur Sahib implementation. The Congress agent accusation labelled against Longowal and Bhindrawale is an insult to both Sants who sacrificed their lives for the Panth.

2. Longowal opposed Bhindrawale at a limited internal level within the Panth because Damdami Taksal and Sant Ji openly campaigned for Congress in 1980, however on a level of facing common enemy Indira Gandhi Sant Ji and Longowal were united for the Sikh Panth and Anandpur Sahib resolution in 1984.

3. Total nonsense. If you believe that u will believe anything. This is same reasoning why uneducated people say Sant Ji was Congress stooge. Indira Gandhi herself attacked Harmandir Sahib in order to get Hindutva vote and attack Sikh Panth. To accuse Longowal of this is ridiculous and only people born in 1990's have been fed these lies to discredit our entire Panth's historic leadership.

4. Galant Defender book (which i also mentioned above) is a great book for exposing the lies that Sant Ji was a terrorist BUT that does not mean that everything written about others like Longowal who were behind Anandpur Sahib resolution originally and who later realised the futility of open fight with enemies with 100-1000 times more soldiers+resources is correct. Longowal and Tohra knew full well that Indira Gandhi wanted to attack Harmandir Sahib so they tried to avoid that and even the Rajiv-Longowal accord was done for strategic reason to avoid a whole generation of Sikhs being killed off as Justice Khalra proved. I think we should respect all those who gave their life in service to the Panth rather than accuse them of being Congress stooges. Same accusations were made against Master Tara Singh despite the fact that in 1947 in Punjab Sikhs were only 13% minority. How many minorities get independence where there is 13% minority like African Americans in USA? The answer in 1947 and nowadays is hardly any. History is getting badly distorted with Nangs like Niddar even claiming that Hindu Mahants should have been back in control of Harmandir Sahib in 1920 + the Akali's who liberated our Gurdwara's are instead labelled as biggest enemies of our Panth. Now people who dedicated their life to Anandpur Sahib resolution are wrongly labelled as traitors of Sikh Panth. People of Fatehgarh Sahib District know Tohra was no sellout + same with all Anandpur Sahib resolution supporters from 1970's nobody will accuse Longowal Sahib of what u did. Can i ask how old u are Veerji as my guess is u were born in 1990's + u got these idea's from books maybe rather than what people on the ground know. Not a personal insult just my guess given your opinions? Also i'm guessing u are not from Fatehgarh Sahib district either?

so then veerji can u tell daas why longowal & tohra were safely escorted out of akal takht complex in contrast to others who were tortured to death inside? and regarding that daas was born in june 95.....

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so then veerji can u tell daas why longowal & tohra were safely escorted out of akal takht complex in contrast to others who were tortured to death inside? and regarding that daas was born in june 95.....

Politics Veerji. Had Longowal + Tohra also been killed then the weight of international pressure would have been on Indira Gandhi for killing democratically elected politicians who advocated Anandpur Sahib resolution. Also just to add that Longowal + Tohra dying at that time would not have achieved anything constructive. The massacre of innocent Sikhs at Sri Harmandir Sahib and the Genocide of an entire generation did not advance our Panth. Longowal and Tohra saw that a long way off and tried to ensure a peaceful resolution to what Indira Gandhi was engineering. But there was nothing they could do to stop her. They did not encourage her to do it and I'm sure of that Veerji.

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thank you for responses. I think if longowal was a traitor sant ji would have known and have called him out right?

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thank you for responses. I think if longowal was a traitor sant ji would have known and have called him out right?

He actually did. Longowal raised a hue and cry about the sant being a congress agent, the sant calmly retaliated by stating that only time would tell who the real congress agent is. After Operation Bluestar Longowal's real 'bootha' was manifested.

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He actually did. Longowal raised a hue and cry about the sant being a congress agent, the sant calmly retaliated by stating that only time would tell who the real congress agent is. After Operation Bluestar Longowal's real 'bootha' was manifested.

Pyare Veer 13Mirch i totally disagree with the implication of your comment above.

The Akali's with Longowal Ji as leader who wanted implementation of Anandpur Sahib called Damdami Taksal agents of Congress in 1980 when Sant Ji and Damdami Taksal openly campaigned for Congress in those elections ... so the Akali's of that time (who were not as corrupt as today's Badal Dal) can't be blamed for opposing those who campaigned for Congress in 1980. Longowal was called Sant Ji by the people (not by himself) for what he achieved for them and the simplicity of his life.

By the time of 1984 however, the Sikh Panth was united that Anandpur Sahib resolution must be implemented and Longowal+Bhindrawale were two sides of the same coin (who had sincere respect for each other), with Sant Longowal who called Bhindrawale Ji "our stave to beat the government" representing the pragmatic moderate political discussion approach and Sant Bhindrawale (though he was dedicated to peace) representing the slightly more militant approach. The coin itself is one and will always remain one (despite different visions of how to get to where we as a Panth need to go). Both shades of opinion were 100% pro-Sikh. Even today, all angles of the Panth whether Canadian or Indian, whether sehajdhari or Amritdhari, whether pro-meat or anti-meat etc can contribute meaningfully to uplifting the Panth. The "stick and the carrot" as employed by Longowal+Sant Ji in tandem in 1984 is a valid political approach, as u have heard used by the Americans I'm sure.

It's important to remember that Longowal and Tohra were told that they would get the chance to negotiate for a peaceful conclusion to the encirclement of Sri Harmandir Sahib by Brar's cowards ... so it wasn't a case of how youth born in the 1990's have been fed lies that Longowal + Tohra Sahib walked out as traitorous cowards. Anyone from south of Ludhiana knows that Longowal and Tohra (who also disagreed on strategy between themselves as well) were never for a second anti-Sikh sellouts. They were Sikh and true to the cause in the manner they saw best. They foresaw that a military attack on Harmandir Sahib and a subsequent Genocide of the Sikh Panth (as given in the taster of what Congress was capable of at the start of November 1984) would leave our Panth in a very weak position subsequently. We see that clearly today in terms of drugs, abortion clinics, derawadi, you name it. Each and every Sikh knows that after what GOI did to us in June 1984 we can never have any real connection with the terrorists from Delhi. However, at the same time we have to maintain a sense of reality. When forces one hundred times stronger numerically and weapons wise are being faced, with innumerable traitors doing their bit for the enemy, then we as a Panth need to take the cautious approach and build our strength from the foundations upwards (not from the roof downwards). The foundations include the defeat of alcohol in Punjab, the defeat of drugs, the defeat of biraderi, the defeat of infanticide and the defeat of illiteracy. Back in 1984 there were 500 million odd more Hindu's than Sikhs in absolute numbers. Today there are 1,000 million more Hindu's than Sikhs in absolute numbers and the USA backing India as an unbroken entity in which to trade (as a counterweight to China) ... then we need to get our foundations strong before vocalising what we ALL want in our hearts.

The fundamental fact is that in 2013 the history of 1977-1997 conclusively proves that Longowal's vision of how to get the successful implementation of the Anandpur Sahib resolution was correct compared to the other approach advocated by Damdami Taksal. Not a single Sikh in 2013 can say in any way that we as a Panth were victorious in the period between 1977-1997. Indira Gandhi was politically defeated in 1977 and it was only her + Zail Sin cooking up the lie that all Sikhs were Khalistani terrorists that revived her political fortunes so she could attack Harmandir Sahib to grab the Hindutva votes.

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Pyare Veer 13Mirch i totally disagree with the implication of your comment above.

The Akali's with Longowal Ji as leader who wanted implementation of Anandpur Sahib called Damdami Taksal agents of Congress in 1980 when Sant Ji and Damdami Taksal openly campaigned for Congress in those elections ... so the Akali's of that time (who were not as corrupt as today's Badal Dal) can't be blamed for opposing those who campaigned for Congress in 1980. Longowal was called Sant Ji by the people (not by himself) for what he achieved for them and the simplicity of his life.

By the time of 1984 however, the Sikh Panth was united that Anandpur Sahib resolution must be implemented and Longowal+Bhindrawale were two sides of the same coin (who had sincere respect for each other), with Sant Longowal who called Bhindrawale Ji "our stave to beat the government" representing the pragmatic moderate political discussion approach and Sant Bhindrawale (though he was dedicated to peace) representing the slightly more militant approach. The coin itself is one and will always remain one (despite different visions of how to get to where we as a Panth need to go). Both shades of opinion were 100% pro-Sikh. Even today, all angles of the Panth whether Canadian or Indian, whether sehajdhari or Amritdhari, whether pro-meat or anti-meat etc can contribute meaningfully to uplifting the Panth. The "stick and the carrot" as employed by Longowal+Sant Ji in tandem in 1984 is a valid political approach, as u have heard used by the Americans I'm sure.

It's important to remember that Longowal and Tohra were told that they would get the chance to negotiate for a peaceful conclusion to the encirclement of Sri Harmandir Sahib by Brar's cowards ... so it wasn't a case of how youth born in the 1990's have been fed lies that Longowal + Tohra Sahib walked out as traitorous cowards. Anyone from south of Ludhiana knows that Longowal and Tohra (who also disagreed on strategy between themselves as well) were never for a second anti-Sikh sellouts. They were Sikh and true to the cause in the manner they saw best. They foresaw that a military attack on Harmandir Sahib and a subsequent Genocide of the Sikh Panth (as given in the taster of what Congress was capable of at the start of November 1984) would leave our Panth in a very weak position subsequently. We see that clearly today in terms of drugs, abortion clinics, derawadi, you name it. Each and every Sikh knows that after what GOI did to us in June 1984 we can never have any real connection with the terrorists from Delhi. However, at the same time we have to maintain a sense of reality. When forces one hundred times stronger numerically and weapons wise are being faced, with innumerable traitors doing their bit for the enemy, then we as a Panth need to take the cautious approach and build our strength from the foundations upwards (not from the roof downwards). The foundations include the defeat of alcohol in Punjab, the defeat of drugs, the defeat of biraderi, the defeat of infanticide and the defeat of illiteracy. Back in 1984 there were 500 million odd more Hindu's than Sikhs in absolute numbers. Today there are 1,000 million more Hindu's than Sikhs in absolute numbers and the USA backing India as an unbroken entity in which to trade (as a counterweight to China) ... then we need to get our foundations strong before vocalising what we ALL want in our hearts.

The fundamental fact is that in 2013 the history of 1977-1997 conclusively proves that Longowal's vision of how to get the successful implementation of the Anandpur Sahib resolution was correct compared to the other approach advocated by Damdami Taksal. Not a single Sikh in 2013 can say in any way that we as a Panth were victorious in the period between 1977-1997. Indira Gandhi was politically defeated in 1977 and it was only her + Zail Sin cooking up the lie that all Sikhs were Khalistani terrorists that revived her political fortunes so she could attack Harmandir Sahib to grab the Hindutva votes.

Can you explain to me why Longowal as assassinated then??

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