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Another important decision has been taken regarding some Gurudwara management committees allowing chairs or benches to be installed for the elderly or differently abled inside Gurudwara premises.. Terming this practice as disrespect of Guru Granth Sahib, Jathedar Gurbachan Singh said, Gurudwara committees can install chairs benches outside the Gurudwara hall and not inside the hall where Guru Granth Sahib is installed.

Does this mean disabled people won't be able to sit in the darbar hall?

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I think disabled people should be accommodated since they are physically unable to sit on ground. But others should not be allowed to sit on benches and chairs. New trend has started since the last decade where so many Gurdwaras in the west are installing chairs and benches in the hazuri of Maharaj. Chairs are there for disabled people but 99% of the people I have seen using them are not even disabled. They are normal and physically have no problem sitting on ground, yet they sit on chairs. Look at this picture:

gurdwara-prayer-hall-carpet-bangkok-thai

As you can see the women in the back sitting on those chairs are normal and from the looks of it are doing chuglis in the Hazuri of Maharaj while only one woman(3rd from left) is disabled which is why she is sitting on a wheelchair. But the other ones are just sitting on chairs for no reason.

This is why chairs and benches should not even be in the Hazuri of Maharaj. Perfectly normal people start to take advantage of these facilities. Only the real disabled people should be sitting on chairs.

Yeah I agree. The disabled and elderly should not be denied darshan of SGGS. Anyone who is fit shouldn't sit on the chairs. Maybe sangat or comitee members should tell them to stop sitting on chairs.

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Ideally I don't think any chairs should be allowed during langar, even for elderly. In Gurdwaras with no chairs there is less gap-shap and more people sit inside and EVERYONE sits on the floor to eat langar.

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If disabled sangat do bring their own wheelchairs then i am 100% sure that no-one would deny them. I also think that Akal Takht Sahib should give detailed report rather than one line with such exemption.

Our folks are crazy, regardless of their good health they would try to find any fake reason to get a chair. Example is that whenever i travel, i see punjabis misusing wheelchair request from airlines. Most of the request is not health reason but a reason that it is hard for them to switch flights, language barrier and so on.

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Mind your language when you speak about Sikh Sahibs. Mods, can you please delete the above derogatory comment.

they are not either sikh or singh sahib...they are just wearing these labels.......unha wich jaake do din reh ke dekh lyo pta lag jauga.....

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Bro, that's not appropriate language for Singh Sahib. Show some respect[/quote

their character and behaviour don't make them singh and saheb...btw I just used kanjar that can be defined as dumb in english or something else? ithe loki aake pta naii ki ki bakwas kari jande ...te unha nu samjdhari dakhon lag pende a...udo ta chete aundi nai pls ....show some respect?

I think disabled people should be accommodated since they are physically unable to sit on ground. But others should not be allowed to sit on benches and chairs. New trend has started since the last decade where so many Gurdwaras in the west are installing chairs and benches in the hazuri of Maharaj. Chairs are there for disabled people but 99% of the people I have seen using them are not even disabled. They are normal and physically have no problem sitting on ground, yet they sit on chairs. Look at this picture:

gurdwara-prayer-hall-carpet-bangkok-thai

As you can see the women in the back sitting on those chairs are normal and from the looks of it are doing chuglis in the Hazuri of Maharaj while only one woman(3rd from left) is disabled which is why she is sitting on a wheelchair. But the other ones are just sitting on chairs for no reason.

This is why chairs and benches should not even be in the Hazuri of Maharaj. Perfectly normal people start to take advantage of these facilities. Only the real disabled people should be sitting on chairs.

hehehe...timi apni aadat se baaj nahi aati

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Bro, that's not appropriate language for Singh Sahib. Show some respect[/quote

their character and behaviour don't make them singh and saheb...btw I just used kanjar that can be defined as dumb in english or something else? ithe loki aake pta naii ki ki bakwas kari jande ...te unha nu samjdhari dakhon lag pende a...udo ta chete aundi nai pls ....show some respect?

Sukhi Veerji, Kanjar does not mean dumb. It means someone who works as a professional dancer. In olden times, women who worked in Kotaas doing Mujra were called Kanjris in Punjabi. And Singh Sahib is the Jathadar of the Akal Takht which is the highest temporal authority of our Panth. Calling Singh Sahib as Kanjar is the height of disrespect.

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Sukhi Veerji, Kanjar does not mean dumb. It means someone who works as a professional dancer. In olden times, women who worked in Kotaas doing Mujra were called Kanjris in Punjabi. And Singh Sahib is the Jathadar of the Akal Takht which is the highest temporal authority of our Panth. Calling Singh Sahib as Kanjar is the height of disrespect.

dear johnny saab...

ide wich fe meri galti nai ye ae wala kanjar tusi socya.....ithe ta punjabi wich ek maa b apne bete nu kanjar keh dindi a..te fe oh kothe te nachan waala ho gya.??....its the same case as we use swag , baby, etc etc words of english in different senses........... te naale main kanjar di gal kiti c naa kii kanjari di.....

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dear johnny saab...

ide wich fe meri galti nai ye ae wala kanjar tusi socya.....ithe ta punjabi wich ek maa b apne bete nu kanjar keh dindi a..te fe oh kothe te nachan waala ho gya.??....its the same case as we use swag , baby, etc etc words of english in different senses........... te naale main kanjar di gal kiti c naa kii kanjari di.....

veer jee, ਗੁਸੇ ਵਿਚ, ਇਕ ਮਾਂ ਆਪਣੇ ਪੁੱਤ ਨੂੰ ਕਈ ਵਾਰ ਕੁੱਤਾ ਭੀ ਆਖ ਦਿੰਦੀ ਹੈ, ਕੀ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਮਤਲਬ ਇਹ ਹੋਇਆ ਕਿ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ "ਕੁੱਤਾ" ਕਹੇ ਕੇ ਬੁਲਾ ਸਕਦੇ ਹੋ?

trying to use technicalities like saying you used a masculine word not a feminine word does not change the level of disrespect.

Singh Sahibs of the Takhts should be given the same satkaar and respect that one gives their parents. Would you call your father the disrespectful word you used for the Jathadar of the Akal Takht?

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veer jee, ਗੁਸੇ ਵਿਚ, ਇਕ ਮਾਂ ਆਪਣੇ ਪੁੱਤ ਨੂੰ ਕਈ ਵਾਰ ਕੁੱਤਾ ਭੀ ਆਖ ਦਿੰਦੀ ਹੈ, ਕੀ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਮਤਲਬ ਇਹ ਹੋਇਆ ਕਿ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ "ਕੁੱਤਾ" ਕਹੇ ਕੇ ਬੁਲਾ ਸਕਦੇ ਹੋ?

trying to use technicalities like saying you used a masculine word not a feminine word does not change the level of disrespect.

Singh Sahibs of the Takhts should be given the same satkaar and respect that one gives their parents. Would you call your father the disrespectful word you used for the Jathadar of the Akal Takht?

Brother, please do not waste your time arguing with such respectful people who do not know the meaning of respect.

Mods should have dealt with this by now.

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