Mental Health

[POODNA]

Absolutely. Most of them need a good back hander. Research in the west is money driven. Pharmaceutical companies keep releasing antidepressants wich really are no better than placebo. However it's a multibillion dollar industry and as such manufacturers will forge research without a second thought. I really have no sympathy for so called 'depressed' or 'anxious' people. I've seen time after time that labelling people with 'depression' and 'axiety' just compounds their problems.

[Deletedkp]

Absolutely. Most of them need a good back hander. Research in the west is money driven. Pharmaceutical companies keep releasing antidepressants wich really are no better than placebo. However it's a multibillion dollar industry and as such manufacturers will forge research without a second thought. I really have no sympathy for so called 'depressed' or 'anxious' people. I've seen time after time that labelling people with 'depression' and 'axiety' just compounds their problems.

Brilliant !!

Your answer just sums you up. So, I guess you're not working in mental health any more?

[luckysingh99]

Absolutely. Most of them need a good back hander. Research in the west is money driven. Pharmaceutical companies keep releasing antidepressants wich really are no better than placebo. However it's a multibillion dollar industry and as such manufacturers will forge research without a second thought. I really have no sympathy for so called 'depressed' or 'anxious' people. I've seen time after time that labelling people with 'depression' and 'axiety' just compounds their problems.

So, you are saying that ALL cases are in your classification above ? :angry2:

Maybe a very good percentage are, but not the real genuine cases that are in lower numbers.

Therefore, I feel it's unfair to class these genuine cases in the same boat.

Yes, I know the majority of depressive pill poppers are just more depressed because they keep depressing themselves into thinking they are depressed !

:lol2:

There is a difference between anxiety and depression, although the same kind of drugs are used for both.

I would say anxiety is more of a ''personality'' trait or disorder rather than a medical one.

However, depression has many disguises and levels.

You would probably say that people who are schizophrenic are not medically imbalance, but they hear voices of split personalities because they are possessed by devil ??? :biggrin2:

Brilliant !!

Your answer just sums you up. So, I guess you're not working in mental health any more?

Are you serious ??

A person with ''no sympathy'' should NEVER be in ANY health care service !!! :nono: :nono:

[princess2005]

1. Ashwagandha old indian herbal remedy and it works. You can get it from most Health stores.

2. Read Patshahi 10, Tav Prasad Sawiyae - Deenan Ki Pritpal Karae.

[Deletedkp]

Are you serious ??

A person with ''no sympathy'' should NEVER be in ANY health care service !!! :nono: :nono:

Mr Singh, Im being sarcastic :lol2:

[POODNA]

Genuine mental health problems are few and far between. There is an overwhelming predominance of personality disorder which is not a mental health problem. This is the result of a culture of benefits, alcohol, drugs, poor family values and a lack of aspiration. I've never seen mental health issues affect chardi kala people.

[Wingz23]

Thanks for the replies guys... Post can be closed now.... I have got a lot of answers

Fateh

[BobbyMann75]

You wouldn't be saying that if it happened to you, or your loved ones Poodna.

[maniXsingh]

Satnam sangat ji.

This thread is of great importance. In todays society, almost all of us will experience some kind of mental health issue in our life. What's upsetting is our community is ashamed to admit it, so most of us will not receive any help. Having experienced depression first hand, I can tell you "man up" and getting a "back hand" is the worst advice you can receive from anyone. What's more, 400 years ago, due to diet and lifestyle, depression was literally unheard of, but hunger wasn't. So what did our institutions do, they setup langar halls! But todaiy, hunger is a relatively small problem in developed countries such as UK and USA, but mental health problems are common eveywhere. But are our instituions serving their sangat? NO

If you are depressed, try this. This is what has helped me..

1. Drink lots of water, maybe 3-4 litres. This is so important I cannot stress how important it is. Pani Pitta, it's fatherly and can take care of us. You are 80% water. Drink good quality water, maybe highland spring or Evian. The best water is from a well but we don't have access to this easily.

2. Eat good quality food. DO NOT EACH CHOCOLATE. Give yourself 7 days or good quality home cooked foods and notice the difference.

3. Exercise. Sweat our the toxins in your body. you don;t have to do hours of exercise. Just to intense exercise for 15 minutes break a sweat and be done with it.

4. Music. Listen to kirtan, raag and good music. DO NOT LISTEN TO MUSIC WHICH HAS NEGATIVE LYRICS.

5. Breathe. Watch Elliott Hulse videos on deep breathing, youtube them. Pavan Guru. Do yoga or bioenergetics or whatever you need to do to open restrictive breathing patterns.

6. Sangat. Don't listen to negativity. Surround yourself with people who make you happy.

7. Meditate- just listen to your breath for 20minutes a day. Even the hollywood stars do this!

I am not an expert in anything, just giving you my 2 pieces of advice. remember don't be ashamed. We should help each other so we can live to our maximum potential. When our mind and body is clean and well structured, we can serve the world better.

[Questioner]

Some of the above posts, how sad. How isolating for those who are going through something which you don't seem to understand. I know that mental health has stigma attached to it, but the Sikh community is so far behind in terms of knowledge it's embarrassing.

I'll write this in case there are readers who need help. Firstly, depression and anxiety are not jokes- how ridiculous that anyone could think so without considering that many people take their lives due to the anguish of mental illness. Depression is due to a chemical imbalance in the brain, and anxiety is due to the body's natural 'fight or flight' response activating when the brain perceives a threat. Depression and anxiety can, more often than not, come together, and can come back in different variations throughout your life- it's about learning to deal with them when you see the symptoms arising.

Of course treatment depends on the severity of your depression and anxiety. When my anxiety was bad, I had panic attacks and IBS which didn't fizzle out even after things started to get better, so I went to the doctors (which is always a good idea) and now I'm much better.

Here's a list of lifestyle things that researchers suggest will help with depression. I watched and read a lot about depression and anxiety, this is the best advice I found:

1. Exercise

2. Omega 3

3. Sunlight

4. Healthy sleep

5. Anti-rumination activity (do something you enjoy)

6. Social connection

Additionally, now that I'm feeling relatively normal again, I'm taking extra measures to change my brain so that I'm in a better position in the future. Yes, your brain can literally be changed through meditation, and I'm trying to change my deep-rooted thought processes that make me feel worthless and ruminate on the negative. Catch your negative thoughts and reverse them, even if you don't believe what you're telling yourself. Also, when you have depression you may be staying in for days on end, so ANY social connection is good. But when things start to get better, you can implement more changes and make sure you're around GOOD, POSITIVE PEOPLE. I can't stress the importance of that. I now have good sangat and I'm feeling great due to their positive energy.

PS. While many people seem to be less understanding of anxiety, it IS a medical problem. Freakin' ruined my life for a couple of years, that did.