Kali Bein

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i have been reading that Guru Nanak Dev Ji disappeared for 3 days whilst bathing in the Kali Bein river.

Did Guru Ji meet Akal Purak as stated in the sakhi, if this was so why do Sikhs mention that Guru Nanak Ji was God himself in Sarguna form?

What is the understanding behind this story, and how is to be applied as it can be confusing and contradictory with the two different statements i.e God as separate to Guru Ji, as opposed to Guru Nanak Dev Ji as God in Sarguna form themselves.

Forgive my ignorance, I only wish to remove doubts and obstacles in my mind.

[mal 82]

Listen and understand Sukhmani Sahib ji he is nirgun and sargun, he himself is everyone and causes all to happen to his comand, if u look at it from a worldly perspective you will be riddled with doubts , if you look at it from a Gursikhs point you and listen a believe in SGGS ji you would never ask such question or have and doubts.

Rember Waheguru ji is the creator he can do anything he wills and he has not limits or end.

He is not like us human being yet he is everyone of us.

[ms514 422]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

I'll try to use this simplified analogy:

Take an empty glass of water, dip it in the ocean. The ocean is in the glass, the ocean is also in the ocean - they are the same, yet "two". This is the Guru and Akaal Purakh in a simplistic representation - the same ocean, the same light, the same "water", but one has been housed in the human body (glass).

This is also the state of BrahmGyanis/Pooran Gursikhs. The difference between the Guru and the Sikh is that the Guru teaches and the Sikh follows. But the Sikh can follow to such a point that he/she also becomes like the Guru (but never teaches a separate philosophy or Dharm. He/she can inspire others on the path, but does not create a new one).

We all have the same "ocean" inside us - however, the duality of maya and ego are like a handful of dirt thrown into that glass. It is through Naam Simran, Gurbani Paath/Keertan that this mud is removed and the pristine "ocean" (Atma, part and parcel of the Parm-Atma) shines through with its true nature and the Almighty is realized. Hence why Gurbani says to search within yourself, as that is where the Almighty resides and you can make a connection to the Almighty. That connection is through Simran and Gurbani - to remove the filth of ego and maya and to see and finally be one with the Almighty within.

[SSD 51]

i have been reading that Guru Nanak Dev Ji disappeared for 3 days whilst bathing in the Kali Bein river.

Did Guru Ji meet Akal Purak as stated in the sakhi, if this was so why do Sikhs mention that Guru Nanak Ji was God himself in Sarguna form?

What is the understanding behind this story, and how is to be applied as it can be confusing and contradictory with the two different statements i.e God as separate to Guru Ji, as opposed to Guru Nanak Dev Ji as God in Sarguna form themselves.

Forgive my ignorance, I only wish to remove doubts and obstacles in my mind.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=56mDJAu8fXQ You really have to watch both videos to understand the concept. Guru Nanak is a form of Vaheguru, but Guru Nanak never asked for his body to be worshipped.