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Sant Ji was not actively used by Indira. This revolting platitude only got started because his rise to power had the effect of diminishing the credibility of the Akali Dal, who were Gandhi's enemies, and thereby benefiting her. Some Indians just choose to interpret this coincidence as meaning that Sant Ji must have been a Congress Agent. Extraordinary claims such as this require extraordinary evidence. As it is, there is no extraordinary evidence. In fact, there is exactly no evidence to corroborate this claim at all.

The Indians have been dealing in this sort of underhand mischief for centuries. What does every weak man fantasize about? Getting back at the men who are stronger than him. This lie is just part of the greater Indian power trip, their scrambling attempt to recover their shattered manhood.

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Sant Ji was not actively used by Indira. This revolting platitude only got started because his rise to power had the effect of diminishing the credibility of the Akali Dal, who were Gandhi's enemies, and thereby benefiting her. Some Indians just choose to interpret this coincidence as meaning that Sant Ji must have been a Congress Agent. Extraordinary claims such as this require extraordinary evidence. As it is, there is no extraordinary evidence. In fact, there is exactly no evidence to corroborate this claim at all.

The Indians have been dealing in this sort of underhand mischief for centuries. What does every weak man fantasize about? Getting back at the men who are stronger than him. This lie is just part of the greater Indian power trip, their scrambling attempt to recover their shattered manhood.

There is zero evidence. Bhindranwala addressed the "agent" rumors in his speeches too. As he distanced himself from the Akalis and their friends, they began too fear him more, and it was the Tohra/Talwandi/Longowal types who were behind these rumors. Its as simple as this, the real traitors and collabrators with Gandhi survived in June, those who put Sikhi first didn't. However, it is very possible and likely that Rahul Gandhi was pulling strings, such as more media coverage for Bhindranwala, too harm the SAD. Santokh Singh of Delhi and Zail Singh also probably helped him escape to Mehta Chowk, but still doesn't make him an agent.

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I have a friend who is a stauch AAP supporter. He asked me that why did Sant Bhindranwale carry AK 47 guns which were not licensed ? Why did he break the rules of the state ?

Tell him sant ji/other singhs did NOT carry ak47/machine guns. All weapons they used were licensed indian weapons, such as ww2 rifles. Google pictures of weapons used by singhs in bluestar, n then compare them to weapons used by kharkoos after 1985, which were machine guns provided by pakistan.

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I have a friend who is a stauch AAP supporter. He asked me that why did Sant Bhindranwale carry AK 47 guns which were not licensed ? Why did he break the rules of the state ?

Well India isn't America, where it's relatively a lot easier to get a gun. (I honestly don't know what I'd say, nobody's questioned in that particular way here). Also he was only doing what any Sikh would do to protect their religion from aggression from the state.
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I have a friend who is a stauch AAP supporter. He asked me that why did Sant Bhindranwale carry AK 47 guns which were not licensed ? Why did he break the rules of the state ?

All valid licenses were revoked. Don't follow propagandists .

There is zero evidence. Bhindranwala addressed the "agent" rumors in his speeches too. As he distanced himself from the Akalis and their friends, they began too fear him more, and it was the Tohra/Talwandi/Longowal types who were behind these rumors. Its as simple as this, the real traitors and collabrators with Gandhi survived in June, those who put Sikhi first didn't. However, it is very possible and likely that Rahul Gandhi was pulling strings, such as more media coverage for Bhindranwala, too harm the SAD. Santokh Singh of Delhi and Zail Singh also probably helped him escape to Mehta Chowk, but still doesn't make him an agent.

Who is pulling your strings?

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However, it is very possible and likely that Rahul Gandhi was pulling strings, such as more media coverage for Bhindranwala, too harm the SAD.

Santokh Singh of Delhi and Zail Singh also probably helped him escape to Mehta Chowk, but still doesn't make him an agent.

Khoon bro it wasn't Rahul Gandhi but Sanjay Gandhi who via Zail was using people like Dhumma at Damdami Taksal

He asked me that why did Sant Bhindranwale carry AK 47 guns which were not licensed ? Why did he break the rules of the state ?

Sant Ji never had any AK47. All Sant Ji had was a 1939 World War 2 rifle that was fully licensed.

Tell him sant ji/other singhs did NOT carry ak47/machine guns. All weapons they used were licensed indian weapons, such as ww2 rifles. Google pictures of weapons used by singhs in bluestar

Bro u know the weapons used by Kharku's were actually home-made weapons and weapons smuggled internally from within India and stolen from the Army as the border was completely sealed remember as they did prior to 1984.

But what Congress did they deliberately switched home-made weapons for Pakistani weapons in photo's in order to falsely show Kharku's were getting help from Pakistan. As by showing these fake Pakistani weapons it made it legitimate for the terrorist government to kill innocent Singhs and those in the Kharku Lehar by painting them as traitors collaborating with Pakistan.

Remember that the Pakistani's had killed 20% of Sikhs in the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs only 37 years earlier.

So nobody in the Kharku Lehar would ever co-operate with Pakistan. It's like saying Kharku's would co-operate with Beanta 30years after. That's what these terrorist Congressi's expect us to believe with their lies.

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Khoon bro it wasn't Rahul Gandhi but Sanjay Gandhi who via Zail was using people like Dhumma at Damdami Taksal

Sant Ji never had any AK47. All Sant Ji had was a 1939 World War 2 rifle that was fully licensed.

Bro u know the weapons used by Kharku's were actually home-made weapons and weapons smuggled internally from within India and stolen from the Army as the border was completely sealed remember as they did prior to 1984.

But what Congress did they deliberately switched home-made weapons for Pakistani weapons in photo's in order to falsely show Kharku's were getting help from Pakistan. As by showing these fake Pakistani weapons it made it legitimate for the terrorist government to kill innocent Singhs and those in the Kharku Lehar by painting them as traitors collaborating with Pakistan.

Remember that the Pakistani's had killed 20% of Sikhs in the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs only 37 years earlier.

So nobody in the Kharku Lehar would ever co-operate with Pakistan. It's like saying Kharku's would co-operate with Beanta 30years after. That's what these terrorist Congressi's expect us to believe with their lies.

My friend, wat makes u think the kharkus wouldnt find an ally in pakistan? It dont matter if they genocided r ppl at partition, coz its WAS/IS in pakistans interest to break up india, and we want total independance, so hence they fully supported the khalistan movement from 1985 onwards. Remember it was benazir butthole, who snitched all the hiding places/secret info to the indian govt also. An enemy of an enemy the nbecomes ur friend! This is how world politics always has and always WILL work.

Your confusing something here for some odd reason, coz u say "But what Congress did they deliberately switched home-made weapons for Pakistani weapons in photo's", that was during op bluestar geezer, which they lied about to the whole world, so they can justify bluestar sayin the singhs had these pak weapons, which we all know is completely false.

Look at these bluestar pics of the singhs weapons:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11080442_10152954966472081_6469516072002219844_o.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30967233@N08/4379086536/

http://static.dnaindia.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/06/242039-1.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/gallery/albums/Sant-Jarnail-Singh/Sant-Jarnail-Singh-023.jpg

http://khalistanmovement.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1394840625_l.jpg

http://khalistanmovement.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1394847786_l.jpg

Now compare that to these pics of kharkus, who look sensational with their shashtar, 1985 onwards;

http://www.neverforget84.com/gallery/albums/Khalistan-Commando-Force/Bhai-Swarn-Singh-Bisrampur-and-Bhai-Iqbal-Singh-Bagha.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/gallery/albums/Khalistan-Liberation-Force/Bhai-Amarjeet-Singh-Billa-and-Bhai-Shamsher-Singh-Shera.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/gallery/albums/Dashmesh-Regiment/Bhai-Tarsem-Singh-&-Bhai-Seetal-Singh-Matewal.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/images/forum/shaheeds/Bhai-Karaj-Singh-Samra-aka-Kaja-2.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/images/forum/shaheeds/Bhai-Karaj-Singh-Samra-aka-Kaja-1.jpg

I have a friend who is a stauch AAP supporter. He asked me that why did Sant Bhindranwale carry AK 47 guns which were not licensed ? Why did he break the rules of the state ?

Look at these bluestar pics of the singhs weapons:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11080442_10152954966472081_6469516072002219844_o.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30967233@N08/4379086536/

http://static.dnaindia.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/06/242039-1.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/gallery/albums/Sant-Jarnail-Singh/Sant-Jarnail-Singh-023.jpg

http://khalistanmovement.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1394840625_l.jpg

http://khalistanmovement.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1394847786_l.jpg

Now compare that to these pics of kharkus, who look sensational with their shashtar, 1985 onwards;

http://www.neverforget84.com/gallery/albums/Khalistan-Commando-Force/Bhai-Swarn-Singh-Bisrampur-and-Bhai-Iqbal-Singh-Bagha.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/gallery/albums/Khalistan-Liberation-Force/Bhai-Amarjeet-Singh-Billa-and-Bhai-Shamsher-Singh-Shera.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/gallery/albums/Dashmesh-Regiment/Bhai-Tarsem-Singh-&-Bhai-Seetal-Singh-Matewal.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/images/forum/shaheeds/Bhai-Karaj-Singh-Samra-aka-Kaja-2.jpg

http://www.neverforget84.com/images/forum/shaheeds/Bhai-Karaj-Singh-Samra-aka-Kaja-1.jpg

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Bro i get what u saying. But why would our Singhs work with those who did a bigger Genocide?

No Singh would co-operate with Gen Brar or Sajjan Kumar today so neither did Kharku's forget the 1947 Genocide.

Bro i honestly believe the weapons our Singhs had in their photo's were home made.

Kinda like the Taliban replicating American weapons. Basically a heck of a lot of AK47 are not Soviet weaponry.

Also remember that the Pakistan Army was totally supplied by the Americans back in 1984 using M16's etc.

As the AK47 is the most copied and world's most popular assault rifle so the blueprint was out there big time.

The Economist explains Why did the AK-47 become so popular? Jan 8th 2014, 23:50by T.W.

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MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV died on December 23rd, aged 94. But his 66-year-old invention, the Avtomat Kalashnikova, has plenty more shots left to fire. Developed in 1947 and first used by Soviet forces in 1949, the AK-47 assault rifle and its many derivatives are now used by the armed forces of more than 80 countries, and by freelancers in many more. No-one knows quite how many are in circulation: 100m is a reasonable guess. As a proportion of all the guns in the world—another number no-one can be quite sure about—Kalashnikovs probably make up more than one in ten of all firearms. Why does an ageing Soviet invention still dominate modern warfare?

The cultural impact of the AK is felt all over the world. Quentin Tarantino’s villains celebrate its appropriateness for “when you've absolutely, positively got to kill every [enemy combatant] in the room”. Mexican outlaws boast about their cuernos de chivo, or “goat horns”, the nickname given to the rifle because of its curved magazine. In some parts of Africa, where the gun is seen as a symbol of the ousting of colonial rulers, Kalash is a popular name for boys. Mozambique displays the gun on its flag. In Lebanon, a model nicknamed the “Bin Laden” sells for twice the price of the standard AK-47, because it is the type that al-Qaeda’s former boss was seen toting in some of his videos.

The gun is nothing special. Its controls are unsophisticated; it is not even particularly accurate. But this simplicity is a reason for its success. Compared with other assault rifles, the AK-47 has generous clearance between its moving parts. That is bad for accuracy, but it means that the mechanism is unlikely to jam, no matter how clogged it gets with Sudanese sand or Nicaraguan mud. Designed to be operated by Soviet soldiers wearing thick winter gloves, it is simple enough for untrained recruits (including children) to use. These features explain why the gun has remained in demand. But its success is also down to supply. The Soviet Union wanted to standardise military equipment among its allies, and so shipped giant caches of the weapons to friendly states, where it also established factories to churn out the rifles by the hundreds of thousand. (The USSR was unconcerned with copyright, too, meaning that knock-offs proliferated.) The gun has spread all over the world. But where the Soviet Union had less influence, the AK-47 was less popular. To this day, bandits in the Philippines are more likely to use variants on the M16, an American-made assault rifle supplied to the Philippine army by the United States.

With the AK’s dominance firmly established, it has proved hard to displace. In Syria, some fighters were pictured using FAL assault rifles, which by some accounts are superior. But they didn’t last long because it proved hard to find ammunition: the FAL takes 51mm-long cartridges, which are thinner on the ground in conflict zones than the 39mm-long cartridges used in the older types of AK-47, according to Nicolas Florquin of the Small Arms Survey, a Swiss research-organisation. Perhaps most fundamentally, the basics of warfare haven’t changed all that much since the second world war. Drones and smart weapons are revolutionising rich-world armies. But elsewhere, much of today's bloodletting follows a similar pattern to that seen in the 1940s. Until warfare evolves, the AK-47 will remain as devastatingly useful as it was half a century ago.

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