Why were all of our Guru's male?

[Guest Sat]

There is no reason, the Gurus happened to be high practitioners of Truth, who's actual experiences of the gyan made them the best teachers out there. 

 

Had a woman practiced Truth and vibrated at such a high frequency she would have been a successor.

 

Mai Bhago led an army of men, she's a prime example of the absence of sexism in sikhi/ Truth.

[harsharan000]

19 hours ago, Guest Sat said:

a)There is no reason, the Gurus happened to be high practitioners of Truth, who's actual experiences of the gyan made them the best teachers out there. 

b) Had a woman practiced Truth and vibrated at such a high frequency she would have been a successor.

 

Brother Guest Sat Jee,

The Gurus were not only practitioners of Truth, rather, embodiment of that Supreme Primal Truth,this means also they are bhandars of pooran gyan.

Secondly, they were Successors, not by any elections held, nor favors by, or from, anyone, but by His Hukum. 

Once Fifth Patshahee as a child, was playing with something, and it happened to roll and stop under the bed of Third Patshahee, who was sleeping on it at that moment.

As Sree Arjun Dev Jee went under that bed to get it, he happened to move the bed of Sree Guru Amar Das, so Guru Jee got awake, and asked who was there under the bed?

Guru Arjun Dev´s mother was entering at that moment the room, and she told her Father Amar Das, that it was Arjun Dev Jee, His grandson.

At that remark, Guru Amar Das said, that He, Arjun Dev Jee would be a Boitha,  a ship, who would ferry across the jeevas/atmas, from this mayavee creation to the realm of Supreme Truth, Sach Khand.

So you see, it is marked since birth, who will be a Guru, other thing is, that they may keep it secret until the right time comes.

Otherwise, who knows, what atrocities and wickedness can the foolish manmukhs do.... to harm these sweet and humble Guru Sahibans....

 But in any case, we are nobody to analyze these things, it is all under Hukum, which is far above our petty minds.

 

 

Then, no woman or man does practice Truth. As the practice of that Truth/Bhakti, is first done by the higher mind, then by the jeev atma, when released from the clutches of the mind.

And as we all know, man or woman are so, only at physical levels.

For doing Bhakti, one has to leave behind the body, which is just a covering with all the physical attributes / organs, such as mouth, eyes, hands, legs, sexual organs, etc ....

That is why, Guru Jee says: akhaah bajoh vekhna, bin kanna sunnah, pairaa bajoh chalna bin hathaa karnaa...

So if during real bhakti we leave back not only our genders, but the whole of our bodies...then, who is a woman, who is a man there, in the pure spiritual realms?

Brother, there we are all gursikhs/students only, without any distinctions such as  of race, color, social status, genders,dharam, nationality ....

The thing is, we are so used to see everything under the perceptions of our limits in this physical, that we think likewise, for that also, which we do not know, thus imagine it,  in terms of those our very  limitations ....

Sat Sree Akal.

 

 

 

[Guest Jacfsing2]

The Gurus were not practitioners of the truth, instead they way were the truth. There were lots of Sikhs with amazing bhagti; however, due to not being the full form of Vaheguru, they just couldn't be the Guru, (as much as we'd like to believe there were tests for the successors, there were none in truth, only to show the world why someone would be the next Guru). An example is that when Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji was born, before being Guru, Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Hargobind Ji had already done Mehta Tekh to him,(add to that the light of the Guru only ever bowed to others of the light), this proves that the Guru is not a man, but rather the true God. Why didn't Baba Buddha or Bhai Gurdas or the 3 Shaheeds, (Mati Das, Sati Das, and Dyala Ji), or Bhai Mani Singh, or Baba Deep Singh Ji, or many other great Gursikhs become the form of Vaheguru on Earth, despite their bhagti level being amazing, because Vaheguru is one and he is complete from any sin. (Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji has no Karma points at all; and he had never had any Karma because he was the complete being that Vaheguru himself came, why did he come laughing instead of crying, like everyone else). Even the Bhagats couldn't have equalled the light of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. You are still putting in a belief system that says that Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji was a human, instead of Vaheguru, due to some misunderstanding from Gurbani that says Vaheguru has no forms, (which is true by itself); however, Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji is a special form of Vaheguru, which is something the Panth has mostly forgotten since the SGPC took over.

[MisterrSingh]

From a non-religious perspective, medieval India and much of the world was built on the accomplishments of men. Every facet of life was tailored to the male identity. With the incredible hard work that had to be undertaken by our Gurus to establish the Sikh faith, I'm sad to say the social climate at the time would've been incredibly hostile to a woman not only from external Mughal and Hindu opposition, but also internal issues stemming from family, community, etc. I'm not saying a female incarnation of God would've failed, but even Waheguru understands how foolish humanity can behave at times. These are my thoughts on the subject.

It's a valid question. The true answer, as always, is "Only God knows." 

[Thanatos]

6 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

From a non-religious perspective, medieval India and much of the world was built on the accomplishments of men. Every facet of life was tailored to the male identity. With the incredible hard work that had to be undertaken by our Gurus to establish the Sikh faith, I'm sad to say the social climate at the time would've been incredibly hostile to a woman not only from external Mughal and Hindu opposition, but also internal issues stemming from family, community, etc. I'm not saying a female incarnation of God would've failed, but even Waheguru understands how foolish humanity can behave at times. These are my thoughts on the subject.

It's a valid question. The true answer, as always, is "Only God knows." 

To dismantle an evil organisation the best way to go about it is to start from the top. Which is what Guru Sahib did, Most people would have labelled a woman leader of the Panth as being a witch of some sort. The Lord understood how petty and utterly wretched all of us are, so as raised the truth above all the Guru Sahib's manifested as males and off so called "high caste" families. 

 

Even judging the political atmosphere of Shah Jahan's court his eldest daughter despite being the most powerful woman in the region was subjected to restrictions such as "no marriage". So makes perfect sense they were males.