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Can the admins make a separate section on the forum for Simran/Meditation not a sub-forum where we can discuss:

Bhakti
Simran techniques
Sikh mysticism
Books on Simran
Sants katha on Simran

What is NAM

 

Gurbani is all about naam simran and we need a separate section to make sure we can get our questions answered and life Gurbani

Prab ka simran sabh tay oocha

 


 

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1 hour ago, SadSingh said:

Can the admins make a separate section on the forum for Simran/Meditation not a sub-forum

Why do you care whether it's a "section" or a "sub-forum"?

In any case, there already is a section for Gurbani:

http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/forum/12-gurbani-scriptures-rehat-history/

And for Bhagti:

http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/forum/39-gursikhi-gems/

Have you bothered to look there? There's a lot of stuff there on meditation and naam simran.

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38 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Why do you care whether it's a "section" or a "sub-forum"?

I don't want it under sub-forum because simran/meditation is the whole messageof Gurbani it should be one of the first things people see when they visit or learn about Sikhi on this forum. 

In any case, there already is a section for Gurbani:

http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/forum/12-gurbani-scriptures-rehat-history/

And for Bhagti:

http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/forum/39-gursikhi-gems/

Have you bothered to look there? There's a lot of stuff there on meditation and naam simran.

Gurmukh Ji I have looked at both the section the Gurbani section deals mainly with scriptures/texts.

The Gursikhi gems section is good but it doesn't solely focus on simran,techniques, and how to jap and the different stages of nam jap. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, SadSingh said:

Can the admins make a separate section on the forum for Simran/Meditation not a sub-forum where we can discuss:

Bhakti
Simran techniques
Sikh mysticism
Books on Simran
Sants katha on Simran

What is NAM

 

Gurbani is all about naam simran and we need a separate section to make sure we can get our questions answered and life Gurbani

Prab ka simran sabh tay oocha

 


 

Good idea. 

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On 3/29/2018 at 9:26 AM, simran345 said:

Good idea. 

Guru Kirpa the amount of simran the panth is doing is really going down because its much easier to listen to katha and kirtan than doing simran.  Its hard to sit still and repeat the gurmantar because you will have to examine yourself and see what's going on in the head.  

Doing simran is one of the main pillars of Gurmat that's why a separate section needs to be made to share its importance and its theory of how its done and overcoming the problems that are on the path.

Guru Kirpa

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Another reason to start a simran section is all the benefits of simran

ਸਿਮਰਉ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵਉ  
Meditate, meditate, meditate in remembrance of Him, and find peace. 

ਕਲਿ ਕਲੇਸ ਤਨ ਮਾਹਿ ਮਿਟਾਵਉ  
Worry and anguish shall be dispelled from your body. 

It is easy to read books and debate because it only makes the mind stronger and gives it more energy to keep on thinking.  To still the mind the above quote from gurbani says to do simran.

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Go to sikh awareness. A much better site

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On 4/10/2018 at 6:43 PM, Singh123456777 said:

Go to sikh awareness. A much better site

I'm glad one of the Sikh sites have a simran/meditation section because its the core of the dharm.  We need one on this forum, if we don't were going to get further and further from Naam then the only thing we will have is more and more arguments because are mind is not under control  

ਜਿਨੀ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ  ਚੇਤਿਓ ਸੇ ਬਹਣਿ  ਮਿਲਨੀ ਪਾਸਿ  
जिनी गुरमुखि नामु न चेतिओ से बहणि न मिलनी पासि ॥ 
Jinī gurmukẖ nām na cẖeṯi▫o se bahaṇ na milnī pās. 
Those who do not meditate on the Lord, as Gurmukh, are not permitted to sit near the Lord. 
 
ਦੁਖੁ ਲਾਗਾ ਬਹੁ ਅਤਿ ਘਣਾ ਪੁਤੁ ਕਲਤੁ  ਸਾਥਿ ਕੋਈ ਜਾਸਿ  
दुखु लागा बहु अति घणा पुतु कलतु न साथि कोई जासि ॥ 
Ḏukẖ lāgā baho aṯ gẖaṇā puṯ kalaṯ na sāth ko▫ī jās. 
They suffer the most horrible pain and suffering, and neither their sons nor their wives go along with them. 
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If a Simran/mediation section is made on this forum. We collectively can do a lot of Name Simran Jaap's together

 

It must be remembered  that GURMANTAR  is not just a word; lying hidden behind it is the subtle form of  guru's presence     personality  soul          light   essence of love   divine glance Continuously meditating of GURMANTAR with faith and love will produce a state where the letters of the GURMANTAR "WAHEGURU" will imperceptibly begin to dissolve, melt and transform into a subtle form    - its illuminated form    - its principle form    - its bliss producing form    _ love radiating form    - life giving  force ts Naam form These divine form/force/vibrations then change into and appear as            

Jingling (sounds)           

limitless tinkling sound             

Divine music

Just as Bhagat Kabir has said, "The letters shall perish. The imperishable  Lord cannot be described through these letters." ( 340) 

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Reason #7 to start a simran/meditation section on this forum is without Naam people keep on gathering dirt on the mind which only increases the ego.

 

ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਜਗੁ ਕਮਲਾ ਫਿਰੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਦਰੀ ਆਇਆ 
बिनु नावै जगु कमला फिरै गुरमुखि नदरी आइआ ॥ 
Bin nāvai jag kamlā firai gurmukẖ naḏrī ā▫i▫ā. 
Without the Name, the world wanders around insane; the Gurmukhs come to see this. 

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Reason #8 to start simran/meditation section on this forum 

"In the doubt and delusion of materialism, there is continuous repetition of 'I-mine' which has brought on the devil of ego into our heads. This go with its 'army' of passion (lust), anger, greed, love (attachment), pride etc., has chained and imprisoned us. With the support of this ego on 'I-mine', we subordinating ourselves to materialism, carry out deeds and suffer their effects.

To be safe, from the chronic disease of false ego, Gurbani mentions the one and only method i..e. Simran."

from

brahmbungadodra.org/gurbanivichar?lan=ENGLISH

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Reason #9 to start a simran/meditation section on this forum

2. Do simran 

8.5. All other deeds (without God realisation) will be no use to you., Gather together in the company of evolved souls and meditate only on the Naam.

But we have become so engrossed in our personal work or commitments that we have become ignorant, careless or even knowingly ignore “repeat only the Naam” advice.

If we ever attend a satsang, it is for obtaining the fulfillment of some personal worldly needs. 

8.6 Out of millions, hardly anyone is a servant of God; all others are but traders 495
If we have knowingly ignored or forgotten gurbani’s most vital advice it is this 
“SIMRAN”
8.7 O saints, this world has gone astray in doubt.It has forsaken the meditation of the Lords Name & has sold itself to worldly attachments. 684
This is the reason when inspite of reading, listening and preaching gurbani 
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our materialistic, mental, spiritual in other words the whole life, being entangled in the falsehood of attachment and materialism is degenerating.

9.1 Being entangles and enmeshed in the love of false occupation, the whole world has perished. 133.

9.2 Good many waves of desire arise in the mind. How can man be delivered at the Lord’s court?

In contrast to this, the tale of the practice of simran by some blessed gurmukhs has been related as follows--

A simple farmer was ploughing his fields.One sadhu, imbued in God’s Naam was passing by. He approached the farmer’s well and asked for water.The farmer, with full of faith and devotion milked his cow, made ‘lasee’ and served it to the sadhu. The sadhu 
was very pleased and said,’ You satiated my hunger and thirst.In return for this I’m going to give you from myself the most important thing..’ Saying this, he made the farmer sit before him and made him repeat Waheguru! Waheguru! Waheguru! and added, “Now carry on meditating like this and see what fruits it will bear.”
Saying this the sadhu left him and the simple farmer started the practice of Waheguru Naam as he was told. Day and night through the practice of simran he achieved a state of bliss and miracluous powers. His fields, with minimum effort flourished more than the rest. His brother enticed his wife away from him. Instead of quarelling with his brother, he thanked the Lord for making his blood brother save him from from maya (worldly attachment).

When he was asked what would happen if he stopped saying ‘Waheguru’ and his heart rendered reply was---
“If I stop saying Waheguru , I will die.”

In this way his life became a reflection of ‘When I say it (Waheguru) I’m alive If I lose it I die’ and he attained spiritual upliftment.

The difference between our so called religious life and that of the simple landowner’s life expectation is this---

1. In the farmers simple innocence was deep faith and devotion that is missing in us. Our faith and belief is usually superficial and easily disappears with the reflection of worldly miracles.
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2. The farmer accepted the sadhu’s advice as gospel truth and like the embrace of the blind’ he clutched the ‘Waheguru’ Name and earned it through practice. But we fall into the whirlpool of why? what? How? of simran and throw away our precious time.Without solid faith, we end up in discussions.

2. The farmer, instead of dealing with household problems in his life, gave priority to the advice of the sadhu that is- to the practice of Waheguru Name. But we give priority to our worldly commitments. We has expanded our worldly commitments to such an extent that we has absolutely no time for simran..If we ever try to imitate the activity of simran that is -go into it half-heartedly, our mind becomes so restless.

10.1 As the mind becomes totally involved in its daily commitments, It will not settle even in the kirtan together with the sadh sangat. (Kabet Bhai Gurdas 235)
There are numerous places in gurbani where we are urged to give priority to simran.

10.2 O man remember your protector, The Lord.
Let go all other thoughts, O man. 913

10.3 Contemplate on the One Lord in your mind and seek the shelter of the One Lord.. Establish love with the One Lord. Without Him there is no other place. 961.

10.4 O my tongue, Sing your Lord’s praise.
Abandon all other relishes.(tastes).The Lord’s Name is the best of 
all. 1220

10.5 All your other deeds will be of no value.
Meet the society of evolved souls and meditate on the Name. 12

10.6 Says Kabir, hear O man, shed your mental doubt.
Contemplate only on the Name and seek the shelter of the One 
Lord.692.

4. The farmer focused his mind and body on the simran of the one Word ‘Waheguru’ and reduced his involvement in other chores. But we on the other hand tend to increase our involvement in unnecessary chores.

5. The farmer had internalized this advice -

10 Why do those who realize that they have to depart, make ostentation 787

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But we are unnecessarily increasing our volume of wasteful activity just to obtain 
worldly praise or shabas thus wasting away or precious life.

brahmbungadodra.org/gurbanivichar?lan=ENGLISH

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