Why havent Indians as a whole protested against rape and murder of sikh girls in 1984?

[shastarSingh]

In 2012 there was a gang rape in delhi and whole of india protested against the rape and there were candle light vigils everywhere.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/Delhi-rape-Nation-erupts-in-protest-candle-light-vigil-at-India-gate/videoshow/17682632.cms

Have indians as a whole protested against the rape and killings of hundreds of sikh girls in 84 ?

Have there been candle light vigils in support of the sikh girls who were raped and murdered openly on the roads of delhi in 1984?

[Guest]

Rape and sex is disgusting and nasty....

Im going to protest for banning sex. Please no more sex in this world. Please!!! Its traumatic. I want it BANNED!!! 

Whos with me?

[jkvlondon]

because it is not rape unless it's hindu high caste girl... asifa was not raped ...no girls, women were raped in delhi or gujarat when the mobs roamed with electoral lists. Despite pictures of our naked sisters being paraded outside gurdwarey then were not harassed/attacked  no one raped amritdhari women with their sri sahibs no operation shuddi karan happened ...' get over it that was over thirty years ago ... ' NO I will not GET OVER IT , YOU SPILT MY FAMILY'S BLOOD and walk around taunting them ...

[Prokharkoo84]

reason is simple... like Sant Ji used to say... we are gulaam and doh number dhe sharee (we are slaves and second class citizens)

[jkvlondon]

3 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

reason is simple... like Sant Ji used to say... we are gulaam and doh number dhe sharee (we are slaves and second class citizens)

 

3 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

reason is simple... like Sant Ji used to say... we are gulaam and doh number dhe sharee (we are slaves and second class citizens)

the only reason we are that status is that we have accepted their labels and treatment , we were born from rebellion and reborn as the ultimate rebels , but the last two hundred years we have been taught by others that is not our path ...sorry but no one dictates over My Guru ji's orders.

Yesterday three young singhs were beaten by delhi police , I don't know what I was more angry at:  their refusal to use Punjabi to give reply to the questions or the total lack of connection to sikh attitude beyond wearing a dastar/their unprepardness.

 

[genie]

On 5/31/2018 at 3:15 PM, shastarSingh said:

In 2012 there was a gang rape in delhi and whole of india protested against the rape and there were candle light vigils everywhere.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/Delhi-rape-Nation-erupts-in-protest-candle-light-vigil-at-India-gate/videoshow/17682632.cms

Have indians as a whole protested against the rape and killings of hundreds of sikh girls in 84 ?

Have there been candle light vigils in support of the sikh girls who were raped and murdered openly on the roads of delhi in 1984?

Cos they have selective memories and they only care about their own religious group (hindu majority).

I'm still surprised Sikhs didn't attack hindu mandirs in 1984 and do revenge missions for the Sikh genocide in new delhi, operation blue star and anti-sikh operations in punjab. It was all one way traffic with RSS right wing hindu nationalists and congress atheist secularist Indians in government and army having a free reign to kills sikhs like in the days of the moghuls. Military and politically aided by USSR, UK and Israeli governments.

As people had warned in 1940s pre-indian independence if the Sikhs did not get their own nation state then these things will happen against non-hindu minorities. Sikh leaders at the time laughed and thought impossible their "hindu brothers" turning against them. Muslims would turn against them yes because islam is a extremist and separatist religious ideology preaching hate and violence against the non-believer but hindus on the whole they thought were like family. How wrong they was and 1984 proved it.

 

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, genie said:

Cos they have selective memories and they only care about their own religious group (hindu majority).

I'm still surprised Sikhs didn't attack hindu mandirs in 1984 and do revenge missions for the Sikh genocide in new delhi, operation blue star and anti-sikh operations in punjab. It was all one way traffic with RSS right wing hindu nationalists and congress atheist secularist Indians in government and army having a free reign to kills sikhs like in the days of the moghuls. Military and politically aided by USSR, UK and Israeli governments.

As people had warned in 1940s pre-indian independence if the Sikhs did not get their own nation state then these things will happen against non-hindu minorities. Sikh leaders at the time laughed and thought impossible their "hindu brothers" turning against them. Muslims would turn against them yes because islam is a extremist and separatist religious ideology preaching hate and violence against the non-believer but hindus on the whole they thought were like family. How wrong they was and 1984 proved it.

 

and 1986 and 1988 and the decades before and since . 'Brahmins' are only friends of themselves  rest are just pawns and slaves to their needs in their own minds .

[Punjabiwolves]

1)  Good question.  I think it would be great if all Indian would unite al hold a mass protest for the victims of 1984. I class it as terrorist attack by the Indian govt and RSS/Hindu extremists.   But I do not think you can blame the whole Hindu community . Many Hindu actually helped sikhs  during  The attack on sikhs in Dehli 1984.

2) A sikh state prior to 1947 might have worked out well. It would have been a Hindu majority but like the Sikh Empire model all faiths would have had equal rights  with Amritsar being given special religious status. The country would have no extreme poverty  , fully developed economy basically Punjabi would have archived what they have abroad in there own nation.so yeah you could fully argue  the wrong decision was made to join India. 

 

3)  @jkvlondon  you seriously have some extremist views . How can you blame and put all Hindu's under one carpet? Not all Hindus are even Indian. going back to point 1 some Hindu actually siding with the Sikhs. Not all hands are the same. your Holy then thou attitude will not get you anywhere.  On the Brahmin subject which you seem to love how do you define a barmin in todays world ? is it by the name (surname) ? If so then I Am brahmin to you accordance and follow the same generic traits as a   brahmin. let me do a checklist 

1) Red dot on forehead . No, No red dot . 

2) Dhoti . Umm  no I am wearing Nike  joggers does that count ? 

3) Have superior atitude thinks I am better then everyone because of my cast . No NO NO . I dont believe in the cast system in the 1st place. 

So I am not a Brahmin  Not really a hindu despite having a Brahmin Surname. 

Now If you talking about Brahmin as i have defined above then I would say  yeah they are selfless people who only care about themselves and how superior they are. I have no time for them . 

 

 

[jkvlondon]

13 hours ago, Punjabiwolves said:

1)  Good question.  I think it would be great if all Indian would unite al hold a mass protest for the victims of 1984. I class it as terrorist attack by the Indian govt and RSS/Hindu extremists.   But I do not think you can blame the whole Hindu community . Many Hindu actually helped sikhs  during  The attack on sikhs in Dehli 1984.

DELHI population over 8 million  sikhs population probably around 30,000 back then  if even 1% had actually gone on the streets to prevent the bloodbath  there would not have been one

 

2) A sikh state prior to 1947 might have worked out well. It would have been a Hindu majority but like the Sikh Empire model all faiths would have had equal rights  with Amritsar being given special religious status. The country would have no extreme poverty  , fully developed economy basically Punjabi would have archived what they have abroad in there own nation.so yeah you could fully argue  the wrong decision was made to join India. 

No point in coulda shoulda woulda

 

3)  @jkvlondon  you seriously have some extremist views . How can you blame and put all Hindu's under one carpet? Not all Hindus are even Indian. going back to point 1 some Hindu actually siding with the Sikhs. Not all hands are the same. your Holy then thou attitude will not get you anywhere.  On the Brahmin subject which you seem to love how do you define a barmin in todays world ? is it by the name (surname) ? If so then I Am brahmin to you accordance and follow the same generic traits as a   brahmin. let me do a checklist 

1) Red dot on forehead . No, No red dot . 

2) Dhoti . Umm  no I am wearing Nike  joggers does that count ? 

3) Have superior atitude thinks I am better then everyone because of my cast . No NO NO . I dont believe in the cast system in the 1st place. 

So I am not a Brahmin  Not really a hindu despite having a Brahmin Surname. 

Now If you talking about Brahmin as i have defined above then I would say  yeah they are selfless people who only care about themselves and how superior they are. I have no time for them . 

ANS: I'm extremist ? am I baying for all Hindus blood indiscriminately ? No    I am saying it how it is Brahmins as a group are OVER REPRESENTED in all fields of control and power in the country they constitute 3% of the population or less yet take over 90% of government posts why is that , in a secular country?  I mean That would be like all government posts barring 10 % being filled by just sikhs . The Indian constitution (not written by Ambedkar but the original torn apart by committees of others - he said he was ashamed of what it had become) .

a true Brahmin concerns himself/herself with Akal Purakh , has daya for all , is giani , gunwant  gives good counsel to maintain dharam in the land not preach hate, threaten violence against any non-hindu. The ones I object to are those who give the good souls a bad name by leeching off others, oppressing and suppressing , bad-mouthing non-hindus , preach Manuwadi above Advaita . Goad on unthinking masses to commit paap of rape , murder, robbing etc then claim no paap has been committed because the person is low caste/non-hindu/non-desirable . I'm sure you don't identify with those scumbags either , I consider them traitors to their jaat.

Truth is the whole of India is under some huge evil spell  of thinking itself as good/great/advanced  despite millions starving daily in squalid conditions, the daily killings and rapes based in ancient prejudices. They just need to recognise that is delusional and not the truth just like the whole 'but we helped so many sikhs' ...if that were true over 8,000 sikhs across India would not have died and countless rapes would never have destroyed our sisters and mothers in that week . We would have justice within a couple of months rather than still waiting over 34 years

Sorry if I don't trust a Hindu's admin's estimate of my family's pain, death toll or deservedness of punishment ... they have proven time and again as non-trustworthy doesn't matter the party in charge .

 

 

 

[jkvlondon]

Today Akal Takht made a statement that no sloganeering would be acceptable in shaheedi week da bhog as it offends respect of Guru ji ...

and meanwhile our Hindu brothers are calling for a Bhindrawale in every zila and tehsil, guess it's time to up our walk