Why is our community so un-intellectual?

[TejS]

On 6/13/2018 at 6:11 PM, jkvlondon said:

yeah and the they will show their true colours

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/albert-einstein-racism-travel-diaries-china-japan-zeev-rosenkranz-a8397226.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1528927662

Oh my, Einstein, a Jew, was racist? Isn't it wonderful how egalitarian we Sikhs are, we're all just a bunch of goody two-shoes!

I've heard worse from Punjabi aunties than what Einstein has said, and it would not be fair to judge him with the standards of today.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

I don't get why sikhs have got such a love affair with jews ...they are two faced snakes who trained the troops which killed our people at Harmandir Sahib .

perhaps because they too have suffered throughout their history like us and are similar in numbers to us (infact lesser lol) 

[Guest]

It is a common stereotype that a bodybuilder has all the brawn but no brains .

We as a a physically strong people don't have much respect for refined arts, because to us it seems to represent the feminine side we despise so much . Since for most of the short 500 yrs of our existence we have been persecuted by various regimes, we automatically have a respect for brawn over brain because we simply didn't have enough time in our history (except 50 yrs of Maharaja Ranjit singh maybe) to live peacefully and have a stability that would allow us to keep our sword down for a moment and pick up a paintbrush 

Also , we have a habit of being fukre and not think too much and brahmins , angrez and GoI have and still are exploiting us on this basis but we idiots still don't understand because we are simple people or perhaps idiots who can't scheme like them 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, TejS said:

The average Jew and the average Sikh in this day and time have a great disparity in their inclination towards education. And it is this disparity, and apathy for education that has me worried about my community. The Chinese have already caught up in my opinion and the Indians will surely catch up - its no surprise given that the Hindu youth are extremely focused on educational achievement. Whereas Sikh youth in the Western world is more interested in getting caught up in gang culture and shooting themselves up.

On a karmic level I have heard that Punjab will suffer first (as is suffering now) and then the rest of india will follow. 

[Ranjeet01]

A big part of Jewish intellect is due to the fact they traditionally focused on education. 

Imagine that reading the torah is very important to a Jew particularly going through a Bar Mitzvah,  literacy has always been important to them before most communities thinking it was vital.

In their torah reading, Jews are encouraged to think critically when going over their torah reading.  Debate and discussion  plays a big part .

That is why they say if you ask 2 jews for an opinion you get 4 opinions. 

[jkvlondon]

7 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

It is a common stereotype that a bodybuilder has all the brawn but no brains .

We as a a physically strong people don't have much respect for refined arts, because to us it seems to represent the feminine side we despise so much . Since for most of the short 500 yrs of our existence we have been persecuted by various regimes, we automatically have a respect for brawn over brain because we simply didn't have enough time in our history (except 50 yrs of Maharaja Ranjit singh maybe) to live peacefully and have a stability that would allow us to keep our sword down for a moment and pick up a paintbrush 

Also , we have a habit of being fukre and not think too much and brahmins , angrez and GoI have and still are exploiting us on this basis but we idiots still don't understand because we are simple people or perhaps idiots who can't scheme like them 

the biggest stereotype is we do not think , have never thought , it is only during the period of British rule that this trope has been pushed and pushed ....our history is much bigger than this .

If we didn't think at all Khalsa aid, sikh coalition, SOPW , numerous grassroots initiatives , Ecosikh would never exist ... please stop with all the picked up BS of our enemies .  Instead think who does it serve to make us believe this BS?

[TejS]

15 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

the biggest stereotype is we do not think

I think it shows with the lack of educational achievements our people are raking in the West and back home in India. Even the Sikh students that come from Punjab to study in Canada/US take up meaningless courses (and this is their words) at a community college to only get citizenship, whereas you have Hindus filling up seats at universities for actual careers. There is no desire, yearn for education within our community, it's the truth, to deny it would be only letting the problem grow.

And stereotypes exist for a reason, they don't just appear baseless. 

[jkvlondon]

2 hours ago, TejS said:

I think it shows with the lack of educational achievements our people are raking in the West and back home in India. Even the Sikh students that come from Punjab to study in Canada/US take up meaningless courses (and this is their words) at a community college to only get citizenship, whereas you have Hindus filling up seats at universities for actual careers. There is no desire, yearn for education within our community, it's the truth, to deny it would be only letting the problem grow.

And stereotypes exist for a reason, they don't just appear baseless. 

my point exactly cultural stereotypes especially negative ones are used to keep those races down - full stop : Irish drunkards, chinese laundrymen, Sikh army/cannon fodder, lazy aborigines  etc etc
every person from the developing world knows and pushes education as a way out of poverty and into good professions , that includes sikhs , I mean from when I was a teen and now there are a hell of a lot of educated sikhs , nearly everyone has a degree and are going in to other professions beyond Doctaaaar , Army and Police ...now sikhs are engineers, architects, lawyers , etc etc

The positive of being a punjabi majority is that we are stubborn and don't like to be told what to do , so we will always prove ourselves to be more than worthy when a challenge is thrown down.

[TejS]

4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

I mean from when I was a teen and now there are a hell of a lot of educated sikhs , nearly everyone has a degree and are going in to other professions beyond Doctaaaar , Army and Police ...now sikhs are engineers, architects, lawyers , etc etc

It's great that Sikhs are now diversifying their choice of academic pursuits. Hopefully we can actually make a mark in those fields and not just study them for the sake of getting a job. You see getting a degree is one thing and actually putting to good use the knowledge gained from that degree is another. To make new discoveries and to construct new theories and paradigms, it takes far more than just attaining a degree. It takes creative and imaginative application that unfortunately I'm not seeing among our "educated", including myself.

Also, there may be a lot of educated Sikhs in your circles, however look at it globally, and you'll see that it is in fact a tiny fraction, not even considerable enough to be termed as a minority.

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The positive of being a punjabi majority is that we are stubborn and don't like to be told what to do , so we will always prove ourselves to be more than worthy when a challenge is thrown down.

Punjabis have been historically the opposite of what you've described. But yes the positives of being a Sikh are that we almost always succeed in the face of adversity.

[Ranjeet01]

Our people are practical learners.

I think apprenticeships are far better for our people than traditional academic learning.