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Punjabi Sikhs need to be reminded of christian extremism how they invaded the punjab and Sikh empire to destroy its liberate and rule and enforce their own brutal evil regime in its place. Where unarmed rebel punjabi protesters were blown to bits tied to cannons, a huge church tower was built on the site of sri harmandir sahib, banned Sikhs from going gurdwara, partitioned the punjab against Sikhs, salvation army christian missionaries sent to convert Sikhs of punjab, racist white christian authors right derogatory things about punjabis and Sikhs in their books. The wealth of punjab was looted and sent to the treasury of england. The Sikhs were massacred by christian extremist british general o'dwyer in 1919 jallenwallah bag. The racist white christian immigrants in canada didnt let Sikh punjabi immigrants from the ships disembark.

There is a huge history of christian extremism against the punjab, punjabis and Sikhs that has not been properly told to the masses. All of it has been forgotten while they are secretly plotting to convert gullible economically poorer Sikhs to their abrahamic white man worshiping nonsense of a faith.

It's time Sikhs remembered this dark chapter of their history that the Christians don't want Sikhs to remember.

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18 hours ago, genie said:

Punjabi Sikhs need to be reminded of christian extremism how they invaded the punjab and Sikh empire to destroy its liberate and rule and enforce their own brutal evil regime in its place. Where unarmed rebel punjabi protesters were blown to bits tied to cannons, a huge church tower was built on the site of sri harmandir sahib, banned Sikhs from going gurdwara, partitioned the punjab against Sikhs, salvation army christian missionaries sent to convert Sikhs of punjab, racist white christian authors right derogatory things about punjabis and Sikhs in their books. The wealth of punjab was looted and sent to the treasury of england. The Sikhs were massacred by christian extremist british general o'dwyer in 1919 jallenwallah bag. The racist white christian immigrants in canada didnt let Sikh punjabi immigrants from the ships disembark.

There is a huge history of christian extremism against the punjab, punjabis and Sikhs that has not been properly told to the masses. All of it has been forgotten while they are secretly plotting to convert gullible economically poorer Sikhs to their abrahamic white man worshiping nonsense of a faith.

It's time Sikhs remembered this dark chapter of their history that the Christians don't want Sikhs to remember.

Yes. Giant posters on Christian history on everything. From the makers of the inquisition...

To add insult to injury these christians think a Sikh stupid or weak enough to convert should cut kes?  Jesus kept kes. Its a nazarine right. He was from nazareth. 

Even from the monotheistic christian view paintings of Guru's are just as appropriate as those of saints and and white christ hanging everywhere. 

The so called christian church was co opted so long ago, almost no truth of it remains. The image of Christ itself perverted to match up with the Devil's legions of white supremacist imperials. 

Jesus was black. Had locks. Did not come to die for anyone sins. He does not represent a way to heaven for a single group of leprous devils.  He instructed everyone to buy a sword and lead an exemplary life. His only attributed work is the Our Father and if christians were truly interested they'd dig out his bani from the clutches of the devils. 

If a christian is sincere they will immediately accept Gurbani upon reading it. 

If they come spreading their filth, they don't even understand, remind them they're the problem with the world with history. And to keep it pushin. 

If you meet a rare...almost extinct...mythical...actual Christian, cool enjoy the time. 

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If you meet a christian.  They seem nice. Ask what Christian means to them. If they say to love the Lord God, love their neighbors as themselves, and to emulate Christ..excellent. Provided they realize the christian church is evil historically, and to this day. 

If they start talking about salvation, and being on the jesus ticket, don't waste the gas or a match just let them know the truth is in Bani when they're ready. 

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5 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Yes. Giant posters on Christian history on everything. From the makers of the inquisition...

To add insult to injury these christians think a Sikh stupid or weak enough to convert should cut kes?  Jesus kept kes. Its a nazarine right. He was from nazareth. 

Even from the monotheistic christian view paintings of Guru's are just as appropriate as those of saints and and white christ hanging everywhere. 

The so called christian church was co opted so long ago, almost no truth of it remains. The image of Christ itself perverted to match up with the Devil's legions of white supremacist imperials. 

Jesus was black. Had locks. Did not come to die for anyone sins. He does not represent a way to heaven for a single group of leprous devils.  He instructed everyone to buy a sword and lead an exemplary life. His only attributed work is the Our Father and if christians were truly interested they'd dig out his bani from the clutches of the devils. 

If a christian is sincere they will immediately accept Gurbani upon reading it. 

If they come spreading their filth, they don't even understand, remind them they're the problem with the world with history. And to keep it pushin. 

If you meet a rare...almost extinct...mythical...actual Christian, cool enjoy the time. 

Agree with alot of what you said. Unfortunately a few Sikhs are stupid enough to fall for the lies of christian missionaries.

Most Christians are respectable good people and most christians mind their own business have the live and let live approach much like most Sikhs. However there are christian extremists amoung them who use the religion for their own agenda be it to take over lands with demographic conversions targeting Sikhs, hindus or other religious minorities. And these type of Christians dont even care for the lives of their non-white christian counterparts.

When islamists attacked their churchs in pakistan. They did not come to the aid of pakistani muslims they did not want to wage war on the islamists who attacked the christians they were forgotten about and abandoned because in my view they were brown and pakistani. When aggressors attack innocent Sikhs or gurdwara's we never forget we put it as part of our history of persecution and we seek to avenge those attacks sooner or later.

White Christian extremists from centuries have been pushing the narrative he was white blond hair blue eyed man and must be worshipped as a way to assert white mans of dominance and their supremacy over non-white people and lands. However whether jesus was black, white or brown it makes no difference to Sikhs he is not really relevant in our faith. He may have been a man of God and did good deeds a good example for humanity. Yet we Sikhs can only see him as a mere mortal not God not someone who will be acting as our spiritual teacher in this world. If christian missionaries come to convert a Sikh they should point out the cracks in Christianity. That it was a faith based upon the ruins of hindu persian god mithra / mithras (roman god). That it was the roman empire Constantine that created the christian world simply converting the roman empire into christian virtually over night because it would be economically more viable. That original gospels of jesus were edited and removed from history as the bible was complied and recompiled over the centuries. So many holes in the faith that in the end the christian missionary is left with cheap tricks of trying to convert people by deception using fake spirituality or financial incentives.

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On ‎4‎/‎15‎/‎2020 at 9:52 PM, Kau89r8 said:

 

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 Lack of leadership in Sikhs especially in Punjab is the reason no one is challenging these Christian preachers/fraudsters  who are blatantly converting Sikhs by offering them money and selling them false dreams.

This kind of nonsense is not visible in neighbouring states but spreading like wildfire in Punjab.

We are a leaderless religion which is causing us lots of problems and no one is doing anything to stem the rot.

Another example of how miserably our institutions have failed.

 

Christian Pastors Use Nihang Image to Persuade Sikhs into Converting into Christianity

By Daily Sikh Updates / May 7, 2018

A new wave of mass conversion into Christianity is taking place in Punjab where thousands have reportedly accepted the faith. The pastors have preached in mass to heal the chronic illnesses in return of the person accepting Jesus Christ into their life.

The low income Punjabis particularly dalits have switched to the faith as Sikh and Hindu groups refuse to accept them as part of their own. The failure of the SGPC and many Sikh groups can be seen from the mass conversions as the population has left their native religion to an foreign faith.

The Christian missionaries are using pictures of Nihang looking Sikhs and other Sikh dressed people to persuade other Sikhs into converting to Christianity.

The image first reported in 2012 on SIKH24 website and since it’s been very widely used on social media.

 

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13 minutes ago, genie said:

Agree with alot of what you said. Unfortunately a few Sikhs are stupid enough to fall for the lies of christian missionaries.

Most Christians are respectable good people and most christians mind their own business have the live and let live approach much like most Sikhs. However there are christian extremists amoung them who use the religion for their own agenda be it to take over lands with demographic conversions targeting Sikhs, hindus or other religious minorities. And these type of Christians dont even care for the lives of their non-white christian counterparts.

When islamists attacked their churchs in pakistan. They did not come to the aid of pakistani muslims they did not want to wage war on the islamists who attacked the christians they were forgotten about and abandoned because in my view they were brown and pakistani. When aggressors attack innocent Sikhs or gurdwara's we never forget we put it as part of our history of persecution and we seek to avenge those attacks sooner or later.

White Christian extremists from centuries have been pushing the narrative he was white blond hair blue eyed man and must be worshipped as a way to assert white mans of dominance and their supremacy over non-white people and lands. However whether jesus was black, white or brown it makes no difference to Sikhs he is not really relevant in our faith. He may have been a man of God and did good deeds a good example for humanity. Yet we Sikhs can only see him as a mere mortal not God not someone who will be acting as our spiritual teacher in this world. If christian missionaries come to convert a Sikh they should point out the cracks in Christianity. That it was a faith based upon the ruins of hindu persian god mithra / mithras (roman god). That it was the roman empire Constantine that created the christian world simply converting the roman empire into christian virtually over night because it would be economically more viable. That original gospels of jesus were edited and removed from history as the bible was complied and recompiled over the centuries. So many holes in the faith that in the end the christian missionary is left with cheap tricks of trying to convert people by deception using fake spirituality or financial incentives.

Not a few,thousands have been bought over. There is a tremendous increase in the number of churches in the villages.

Casteism and mistreatment of lower castes by the illiterate pendus in villages  has been responsible for these conversions.

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13 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

Not a few,thousands have been bought over. There is a tremendous increase in the number of churches in the villages.

Casteism and mistreatment of lower castes by the illiterate pendus in villages  has been responsible for these conversions.

First blame should go on the secular punjabiyat government whose allowing them to increase without checking whats its doing to the social fabric of punjab. I've heard of families torn apart where once some have converted the pastors tell their new converts to either bring rest of the family into the church or not indulge in their customary non-christian native traditions and festivals. Same thing muslims do but more so in the west where once they have converted a Sikh female they will make her abandon all her ties to her family, renounce her religion and not let her raise the kids in non-islamic environment.

Sri akal takht sahib and SGPC is ment to be our vanguard our fortress but its doing nothing overt about it. And in the end it will be them who lose out if punjab masses stop coming to gurdwara filling in donation boxes.

Punjabiyat must be Sikh centric not secular but Sikh centric. It is the Sikhs of punjab who fought for punjabi suba not hindus they opted for haryana and hindi in 1960s splitting up punjab into 2 other pieces.

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5 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

Not a few,thousands have been bought over. There is a tremendous increase in the number of churches in the villages.

Casteism and mistreatment of lower castes by the illiterate pendus in villages  has been responsible for these conversions.

We are defo to blame...caste system, lack of education so on...They're building biggest church in jalandhar! Amritsar, many churches, they're leeches...but unfo its not just lower caste anymore or poor ..When i went India few years ago, no only was i shocked amount churches built, Jesus poster everywhere but normal Punjabi Jatt.munde .they'd be wearing huge crosses and have cross tattoos...couldn't believe it 

One thing  Modi gov has banned the foreign christian missionaires etc....but its too late now...esp Punjab breaks my heart..

Unfortunately even Punjabi born into Sikh families in West esp kuriye also convert Christianity ...'they couldn't connect to 'Sikhi'

You know that punjabi actress Sonam bajwa...she also born Sikh family converted christian....sad to see 

This why we need to start preaching Sikhi to non-punjabis...esp Eastern Europen, Russians, Latin America, Africa ..not just a white washed textbook version Sikhi..

We need also investment to advance Sikhi and Sikh interests only..example on films focusing Sikh history, misl era period, british raj, Hari Singh Nalwa...few examples 

 

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11 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

Jesus poster everywhere but normal Punjabi Jatt.munde .they'd be wearing huge crosses and have cross tattoos...couldn't believe it 

a lot of pastors are actually jatts, khatris etc      they deliberately do this you know    

theres a lot of parchaar at churches  so i guess thats why people a drawing into it     and a lot of the pastors are very charismatic.

also its a matter of money and power as well        

Christianity is no longer associated with the poor and dalits anymore     its one of the reasons why they used pastors from general castes  and its working     ones you have people from general castes becoming christians   which is already happening  then the masses will start converting     thats how it works   

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punjab also has not seen any christian violence   so thats why they are flourishing there   shiv sena/bjp for some reason havnt reacted with aggression towards the Christianity missionary stuff   coz believe me far more hindus in punjab are converting than sikhs are    but for whatever reason the shiv sena lot havnt done anything yet

its either that   or the hindus will have to do what they usually do and make jesus into another devta or avtar   that will end the spread of christianity in punjab

but nothing has been done as of yet  

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41 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

 

this is what they do!  they perform "miracles" on stage carry out "exorcisms" on stages  and that is enough to convert people in punjab!   they offer exorcisms and that is enough to attract people      thats all they need! 

a lot of this is to do with the simple minds of the people!   

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if you look at christian videos in punjab on youtube  a lot of them are about exorcisms and releasing evil spirits from the body    which are all fake because they just use actors lol

they know people in punjab are into all this stuff  and now they are using it       its all it takes to attract people    

a stage with a bit of music, sparkly colours, pastor shouting and performing a "exorcism",  drama     and thats it  people are convinced and converted! 

these churches are using the same tricks as the deras   

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