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Was Balmiki ji initially a bandit and then discovered God? Because that's what iv read ...

Because the Valmiki community these days get quite triggered/aggressive and volatile on social media if someone does katha of Balmiki ji and mention that he was a bandit before he became a saint. In fact I think it's against the law in Punjab now. 

Certain communities seem to be rewriting the ithiaas of their patron saints. 

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On 11/14/2020 at 2:29 PM, puzzled said:

Was Balmiki ji initially a bandit and then discovered God? Because that's what iv read ...

Because the Valmiki community these days get quite triggered/aggressive and volatile on social media if someone does katha of Balmiki ji and mention that he was a bandit before he became a saint. In fact I think it's against the law in Punjab now. 

Certain communities seem to be rewriting the ithiaas of their patron saints. 

I read the bhagat history a long time a go from this one Granth.

That is was indeed true. He tried to once rob some religious men who were traveling through the forest. They asked him why he is doing this. He said he needs to provide for his family. They told me that even though you are providing for your family, the bad karma that you get from robbing people only you will have to deal with in the end. The told him that he can go confirm this with his family, if they will share his bad karma. He went back and asked everyone in his family and he was told that they can't share in his bad karma. so when he came back to the religious men he they told him to give up this life and they gave him naam to mediate on. One day he went into a deep trance while mediating which lasted for a long time. his mediation lasted for so long that Ant's started to build their colong around his body. when the religious men came back through the same way to meet valmiki again to see how he was doing they realized that he was in a deep mediation. They got him out the ant colony.

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On 11/14/2020 at 10:29 PM, puzzled said:

Was Balmiki ji initially a bandit and then discovered God? Because that's what iv read ...

Because the Valmiki community these days get quite triggered/aggressive and volatile on social media if someone does katha of Balmiki ji and mention that he was a bandit before he became a saint. In fact I think it's against the law in Punjab now. 

Certain communities seem to be rewriting the ithiaas of their patron saints. 

They want their religious figureheads to be viewed as complete, unflawed beings like Guru Sahibs. I think they feel that if their particular divine personalities are seen to have questionable or all-too human origins, it lowers their standing, and makes them seem not-so special next to other communities' religious figures. I understand the logic behind it, but I think it's ill advised. It also inadvertently reveals a sense of inferiority that nobody would've bothered to observe if the facts had been undisturbed.

I'm not knocking any bhagat or similar figure, but i think this is an unfortunate side effect of Modi's social empowerment agenda being channelled in a dodgy direction by people who have gone a tad overboard.  

It's up to them. Nobody wants to be considered lesser than any other group I guess.

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On 11/17/2020 at 3:38 PM, puzzled said:

It's a bit like how some Ravidassias say that Guru Nanak Dev ji copied from Bhagat Ravidas ji because Bhagat Ravidas ji happened to be born before Guru Nanak Dev ji. They also get really angry when we call him "Bhagat" Ravidas and tell us to call him "Guru" Ravidas.

Last few years there has been a lot of people trying to elevate their saints. They don't realize that the very saints didn't give two hoots about worldly position and hierarchy lol, it pretty much defeats the whole purpose of following these saints. 

Its where the wrong kind of politics and religion mix 

Yeah bro. They're  free to call Bhagat Ravidas Ji Guru if they want to, but trying to force others to do it is tacky to say the least. 

That being said Bhagat Ravidas Ji..is a Bhagat which is still incedible.

Most people, with their perception of time, thinking that everything is evolving for the first time out of the darkness have a hard time conceiving that Sat Dharam and Jot have always been and must be regifted to us in our ignorance. 

It's  unfortunate that the Chamar community has felt forced to seperate because of casteism from Sikhi but it's also unfortunate they've lost context and understansing of Gurbani. 

The Bhakti movement was incredible. The Jot of Guru Nanak Dev Ji was gifted to the world following the Bhakti movement but was not produced by it. 

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