Bush & Iran

[Bachan Vidya]

Bush has not finished in Afganistan or Iraq, and is now looking at Iran!

Forget the country with WMD - North Korea coz no oil there.

Bush says take stand on all middle east countries with no democracy. But reality is Iran is last middle east country which does not USA control its oil.

Iran has been working towards reform and has elections. It is Saudi Arabia, Jordon, and other US allies who are run without democracy!

[jagsinrags]

he seems like a greedy and egoistic

[Khalsa_starr]

just think about it, it all seem to start with 9/11. There are speculation that bush and the clinton administration let the attacks go on, so that they could justify the attack of afghanastan and iraq. After all, once the us got there chosen pres for afghanistan, they built an gas pipeline soon after! And know there trying to control iraqs oil. All of this so they can drive their big suv's and consume more at home. If the us people really knew what was happening, they would be suspicious.

[Getae]

Hi Guys,

Let Bush go to war with Iran, see what happens. Every great civilization has fallen at one point or another, the Romans were said to be invisible and look what happend to them? The same thing will happen to the states, they are messing with a sleeping tiger.

Just think about it:

U.S. Army: Recruits who joined the army to get college for free.

Muslims: Fighting against opression from a foreign invader who's sole goal is to convert their way of life.

Sounds alot like the Moghul's and Sikh's to me....so who won when it came to the Moghuls and Sikhs

The Muslims definitely have more fire to fight, the U.S. is getting their butts kicked in Iraq, and CNN is as funny as Chris Rock when he was live at the apollo.

LETS GO IRAN!

[smartsingh24]

You need to stop making generalizations getae, and chris rock is still funny.

[Japnaam Singh]

Did I just hear someone compare the Muslim fighters in Iraq to the Sikhs during the era of the Mughals?

Getae, do you have any knowledge or shame whatsoever?

The fighters in Iraq are Sunni Muslims who want to perpetuate their group's dominance over the Shiite Iraqi Majority. Those fighters, wait--those TERRORIST KILLERS are killing Iraqis and innocent civilians at a hundred times greater rate than they're killing Americans. Their sole purpose is to prevent an election in order to create a civil war and to establish a theocratic state.

They behead innocent aid workers, they blow up innocent Iraqi cops and election workers, and you compare them to the Sikhs of Guru Gobind Singh? What's wrong with you?

[Getae]

Hi guys,

First of all whos the terrorist? The U.S. who launches an illegal war or the Iraqi's who dont even have WMD'S?

Please, the U.S. is deserving what they get.

[natsilahk]

Bush has not finished in Afganistan or Iraq, and is now looking at Iran!

Forget the country with WMD - North Korea coz no oil there.

Bush says take stand on all middle east countries with no democracy. But reality is Iran is last middle east country which does not USA control its oil.

Iran has been working towards reform and has elections. It is Saudi Arabia, Jordon, and other US allies who are run without democracy!

Do you know who the FIRST PERSON TO VOTE IN THE AFGHAN ELECTIONS WAS?

A 19 year old female without a burka.

Did you know a female "sex-slave" who was sentenced to death played an active role in voting during the Afghan elections? She was forced to have sex with members of the Taliban regime, AND then sentenced to death for being a <admin-profanity filter activated> and violating Muslim Law BY the same people that forced her to have sex.

Let Freedom Reign.

And the Oil thing is ridiculous now...Do you know the United States only took 1% of its Oil from Iraq prior to invasion and its less than 1% now. Do you know WHY we are attempting to take control of the Iraqi Oil Fields? Because the Insurgents set the oil fields ablaze, because they know we want ot protect them. Do you know WHY we want to protect them? 99% of Iraq's economy will be run by oil trade and production. If the ins

urgents burn all the oil fields, the people in Iraq will SUFFER and GET NOTHING.

The United States is paying MORE for oil now than before. Oil prices are at record highs! I get gas everyday and the prices are insane!

Did you ever hear that Saddam Hussien smuggled away 55 BILLION DOLLARS DURING THE OIL-FOR-FOOD trade. That's 55 BILLION dollars that should have been given to Iraqi citizens and Muslim miniorities, but was smuggled so he could create a new rich house and kill off hundreds of thousands of people at his will. Did you make an outcry when he did this? No, you remained silent, yet you yell at the United States for viewing the military taking a stronghold of the Iraqi oilfields, when little do you know that Iraq's entire economy will be based of those oil fields. It's like...if we dont save the oil-fields just to show the world that we're not taking any oil away, than you will yell at us in 5 years when every Iraqi is piss-poor because their economy sucks. When we do save the oil for the future, you accuse us of stealing but forget to mention how Saddam stole billions of dollars for his own personal gain and never gave a penny to his own citizens.

We're not invading North Korea for multiple reasons. First of all, they are being more diplomatic than anything Saddam ever tried. Second, they have much more support from China, and other communist nations. Do you want to have another "4th Cold War" ? If we dare to do anything to N. Korea, they have multiple allies who will endanger the world. To compare N. Korea and Iraq is just ridiculous. Apples and Oranges.

and Now you mention how Iran has been working towards reforming elections?

You have to be kidding me.

They are still run by AYATOLLAH'S! Do some history on Iran, how it was created, which Muslim miniority group RUNS Iran, and what Ayatollahs have done in the past. Read up on Women's right and miniority rights in Iran, and then you tell me they are attempting to REFORM? Yes,

let them reform into a complete Democracy and then I will acknowledge their presence.

Stardarcy, please stop your crazy conspiracies.

[natsilahk]

Hi guys,

First of all whos the terrorist? The U.S. who launches an illegal war or the Iraqi's who dont even have WMD'S?

Please, the U.S. is deserving what they get.

Saddam Hussien wasn't worthy of what he got?

Neither were the Insurgents who have be-headed innocent people, even Iraqis?

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

Pyaro...what does this topic have to do with Sikhism or Sikhs? Besides creating massive arguement that will lead to personal feelings being hurt (already some of it starting can be seen), does this topic really serve any purpose.

This debate would be better carried out at some BBC or CNN forum, but not at SikhSangat.com.

Bhul Chuk Maaf.