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-japji sahib vichar sagar deep divine meanings of gurbani by gyani thakur singh ji- Iknaa Hukmee Bakhsees Bhramgyanis stays within hakum. They within hakum give grace to people of bhram vidiya, naam di dat. Gyani Ji gave example of bhramgyani mahatama encounter with dacoit ( balmik). Mahatama's asked him, all these stealing and killing other people you seem to enjoy as your hobby. Do you think these actions will help your par-lok (other world after death)? He went numb, and said I don't know. He tied mahatama with a rope and told him that i ll go ask my family this question. He went up to his father and asked, would you help me in pro-lok? His father told him, i ll go before you and then he asked his mother- she said no. Then he asked his wife and got the same answer. Wife replied, nobody told you to steal and kill people to make a living. When he got nobody helping him. He went in depression and asked himself- if no one is willing to help me that why i m killing people like this? Then he went back to mahatama's and told him- I will not do such things. Mahatama asked him why? He said- no one will help me in par-lok. Mahatama told him you shouldn't commit these sins for people who is not willing to help you in parlok. He said - Satbachan and then asked- what should i do ? Mahatama's gave him reverse mantar of ram- Mara Mara to meditate on. Then he meditated for so many years and he got bhramgyan. He then became quite popularly known as "Rishi Balmik" who predicted ramayan and wrote ramayan 10,000 years earlier than ramayan actual happened. * I'm not sure if this part was in the cassette but I heard that he received the mantar mara because he was so polluted with sins that he didn't deserve the mantar of raam at that time. As he recited he started to get purified and after some time the mara repetition reversed to ram ram ram. Moral - God's name is so high that it will not give you temporary pleasure as heaven but completely merge you with God. (Sachkand) Credit - Goes to N30S1ngh for translating japji sahib vichar sagar deep divine meanings of gurbani by gyani thakur singh ji

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dashmesh darbar Gurudwara was found when ROSS street Gurudwara refused to obey Hukamnama of akal takhat for removal of chairs from langar hall. Those who formed dashmesh darbar approached akal takhat and got managers of ROSS street excommunicated for disobeying akal takhat. And now they have sold their religion for bread and butter. Shame on such khalistanis.

Whole of dasam Granth bani is included in sikh rehat maryada for kirtan from harmandir sahib. Ragis do sing bani from Chandi charitra, beautiful shabads from krishna avtar, shashtra Naam mala, bachitra natak. What does dhundhu know about bani of dasam pita? Nothing at all.Had he read this bani he would have been brave to take a stand and not be lying desperatley to save his skin.

You are correct! A mahapurak also told me exactly this as well!!! Then I asked him how was Guru Gobind Singh Ji God? and he said this: (what Guptunknown posted earlier, which is beautiful) 'The reply was take a mirror and point it at the sun. You will see the light of the one sun in the mirror. Now if you, break the mirror into 1000 pieces you will see the same sun in it's entirety in the 1000's pieces. The light is the same but it is reflected in 1000 pieces.' The above showed how waheguru manifested himself as Guru Gobind Singh Ji and other gurus, brahmgianis etc. Everything is waheguru really though...

Singhs kaurs here, please phone Dashmesh darbar committee members and ask them why they are entertaining Dhunda despite the fact he had insulted Darbar Sahib's kirtan. What kind of Khalistanis are they? These Khalistanis uncles in the west are a disgrace. They have betrayed the cause of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwalay and the thousands of Shaheeds.

wherever somone has said that guru G n god are not the same, they are mistaken, to say the least!.. obviously, sant bhagat jun soi, and gur parmeswar eko jaan, gur arjun partakh har, means nothing to the person (not u) saying that guru G aint god.. they have no idea bout the jort. but, they are righgt as well. there is only one jort! vaha vaha!

In a democratic way, I want to ask just 1 question to Mr. Dhundha - Which Raagi have done Ucharan of which Rachna (Baani) which according to him "Veshvaavan nun vi maat paaundi hai". Does he has a record of what has been ucharan? Which raagi did ucharan of that? I hear Gurbaani from Darbaar Sahib Amritsar, approx. 3-4 hours a day, I would like to hear his response, as I always hear Nirol Keertan from Amritsar Sahib, no Kachchi Baani at all. Dasam Granth as well - most of the recited baani is from Akal Ustaat, some shabad's from Swayee Sahib. Even if he is from the gang not endorsing to Dasam Granth, can he still provide response as to which Baani/Pankti he is referring to??? Quite insulting ... OR is that - he got carried away because he got little publicity which has given him sufficient HAUME (Arrogance) to speak anything derogatory against anybody.

Here is the original video where Sarbjit Dhunda insults Sri Darbar Sahib. Forward the video to 17:00 minutes to listen to the beginning of the episode. But forward to 18:40 minutes where Sarbjit dhunda directly insults Sri Darbar Sahib. The video that includes just the insult has not been altered one bit. That video presents the insult to the Sikh sangat all over the world. the original video is more than an hour long. It is obvious in such a long video, only the insult would be presented as that is the main reason for making the video. No altering has been done, this becomes very clear once you watch the original video. These nastik people are trying to make up excuses for their insults toward our Sikh institutions and our Gurus Bani. Do not listen to this preacher as Sri Akal Takht Sahib has ordered us. If you do, then before Sri Vaheguru Ji Maharaj, you will be questioned on why you didn't listen to Sri Akal Takht Sahib. Rehat is more dear to Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj than the Sikh.

I think in the Bachitra Natak the pankti is "Jo hau ko parmeshwar uchre narak kunt mein pariho" I have heard the katha of this from some mahaprusuh and they say that "HAU" mean himself. If you read whole bachitra Natak and the Panktis before that Guru ji was saying that every messnger of God who came to earth started telling himself as GOD. So this Pankti means that "WHoever treat himself as GOD will go to HELL" Becasue in the next Pankti Guru sahib says "Mo ko daas prabhu ka jano" SI it means if Guru ji were talking about himself then they could have used "Jo mo ko parmeshwar ..." I may be wrong but looks like this way. Because whatever Guru Sahib has said is true and we know that everyone treats them as GOD even all Gursikhs so it doesn't mean that they are going to Hell. Even at Guru Sahib times, their beloved Gurskihs like bhai nand Lal ji always treat them as GOD and i have never heard in any sakhi where Guru ji warned them of Going to Hell if they do so

It's the right decision. He needs to be a Sikh or at least a man and fess up to the video he made.

Sangat should find an independent company, who can analyze the voice of the person who is doing beadbi of Sri Jaap Sahib in the video and see if that matches up with regular dhunda's audio/video (we all know that it will). Then send the result to Sri Akal Takht Sahib and call him to Takht and find out what he has to say. That alone will clear the shanka that some missionary followers in the west.

I think he should be banned because of his continous hatred against Sri Darbar Sahib. Imagine how catholics will feel if there missionaries start calling sick names and making mockery of Vatican in front of thousands. Imagine how Muslim will feel if any muslim cleric started campaign against mecca. It is only us who are becoming soooo weak that some of our moorakh brothers and sisters started supporting such fake professors and take stand against sri darbar sahib/harmander sahib. That's just appaulding.. Everybody has som sort of internal problems (like child-abuse scandals vatican issue) but that doens't make us to take stand against something that once our forefathers willing to up their life... Keep your family name and start acting like a proper sikh. Above message to those who are dhunda's supporters and reading this thread.

Gurufateh all with Gurus grace a cd of nitnem katha (done using Prof Sahib Singh Jis teeka) in english has been released. If anyone would like a free copy email lilsinghnee@yahoo.com. Here are youtube links. Chaupai Sahib translation adresses issue of ppls doubts about dasam bani and the meaning of Gods sword. The path has all been done as per Akal Thakat rehit for panthic Ikta. The banis are Japji Sahib Jaap Sahib Tav Prasaadi Sawaiyay Chaupai Sahib and 40 pauris of Anand Sahib. Hope this helps our youth.

when we say previous janam, we get confused as if they had the same janam as us. guru ji aka god, meditated on himself (god) for these 36 jug to prepare the universe for the naatak (the play - cuz this is all gods play) of the universe. and, during this naatak, god wanted certian things to happen. then comes stories like that attributed to samund rishi (Guru teg bahadur ji) and dusht daman (guru gobind singh ji). puran sant are guru saroop and god themselves (cuz ther are 21 levels of sants,and the first few stages are becomming a gurmukh etc.. which is next level hard btw!!). puran sant are born puran, with no lekha. they are jot saroop of god. god came to move things in the world, the way that he saw fit as and when god thought these ppl (angels and demons and deviz etc) have had their time, i.e. the angels getting ahangkaar so god then sent the demons to heaven, then took the demons outa heaven and this whole story. guru ji are the light of god (jot saroop), on earth. each time God has come to earth, a new dharam has been created. then tainted by humans.. sikhism is the last old religon with historical facts documented. sikhism is the last true old religon, hence most authentic. our gurus were akaal purakh themselves. though yes, there is the same jort in all the guruz, but in the entire line of our gurus, there was no one like guru naanak dev G. its one thing being god on earth, and another thing bing given the seva of samaaling the jort on earth, hence the tests that the gurus were put through to gain the guruship. having said this, once somone samaals the jort, they become god on earth. some may say y is guru naanak dev ji the one special different one? answer is cuz they were god themselves. not just a vessel. when guru naanak dev ji passed, and the hundus n muslims were arguing bout what to do with the body, the entire sangat saw the sheet that was covering guru naanak dev ji dip down as guru jiz body dissappered. this didnt happen with any of the other gurus as far as my knoweledge stretches. plz corect me here if you find out more about their jyoti jot divas. (obviously different for guru gobind singh G when they rode their horse through the fire and upwards). so its one thing to actually be the jot of akaal purakh ji (though we all have the light of god inside us) and its another to samaal the jot, and become god from bhai jheta ji to guru angad (through the blessings of guru naanak dev ji - god). the jort comes, lights up a person, then goes back and entrusts the jot to them.yes, its the same light. just as sat guru and sat purakh are. but there is a difference between guru and god. top level is sat purakh, then sat guru, the jun, then sant,, then bhagat. but, even though there are these differnces, guru ji says, that >>sant, bhagat, jun, soi<<. meaning that all the sants and bhagats and junz are god himself. this is hard to understand.. sone say, phd level stuffs. like hearing the naad and seeing that ball of light. to see everywhere aka sarab-byaapak. iv explained this cuz it is key in understanding what the jort is (to whatever expent we can) to then answer the question about the past lives of our gurus. they were lives. but in deep retrospect, they needed not take a janam. cuz they were akaal purakh saroop... its quite jokes as each time i post, i feel iv sed too much.. n that ppl wont appreciate it.. depending on whats what, i myt delete this / edit it.. :)

This is the only excuse people back home trot out to defend themselves when they are caught doing bad things. Its always "It was Photoshopped, it was morphed, it was edited", etc. You'd think with so much talent in the villages and cities of India, the likes of Industrial Light and Magic and Pixar should start recruiting over there! :biggrin2:

Your reply is absolutely beautiful. I'm speechless! Thanks for sharing ji

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh A Sant was asked a question though not exactly the same. Something along the line of how Guru Sahib can be with multiple people at once. The reply was take a mirror and point it at the sun. You will see the light of the one sun in the mirror. Now if you, break the mirror into 1000 pieces you will see the same sun in it's entirety in the 1000's pieces. The light is the same but it is reflected in 1000 pieces. Hope this helps. Bhul chuk maaf

Khalsa aid appear to be doing great seva. Why are some Sikhs so jealous as to belittle others rather than take initiative?

It was Khalsa Aid who raised awareness of the term "Dharmi Fauji" in the global mainstream Sikh Community. Up until then, who or what sanstha, jatha, samparda etc was actually raising any awareness of these Singhs and their families or even supporting them? I never came across the term "Dharmi Fauji" in any katha, parchaar, fund collection or discussions over the last 25 years. So credit where credit is due, Khalsa Aid made us aware of this issue.

Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Gauree on Ang 338 ਗਉੜੀ 13 ॥ gourree 13 || Gauree 13: ਫੁਰਮਾਨੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਸਿਰੈ ਊਪਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਨ ਕਰਤ ਬੀਚਾਰ ॥ furamaan thaeraa sirai oopar fir n karath beechaar || Your Command is upon my head, and I no longer question it. ਤੁਹੀ ਦਰੀਆ ਤੁਹੀ ਕਰੀਆ ਤੁਝੈ ਤੇ ਨਿਸਤਾਰ ॥1॥ thuhee dhareeaa thuhee kareeaa thujhai thae nisathaar ||1|| You are the river, and You are the boatman; salvation comes from You. ||1|| ਬੰਦੇ ਬੰਦਗੀ ਇਕਤੀਆਰ ॥ ba(n)dhae ba(n)dhagee eikatheeaar || O human being, embrace the Lord's meditation, ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਰੋਸੁ ਧਰਉ ਕਿ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥1॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ saahib ros dhharo k piaar ||1|| rehaao || whether your Lord and Master is angry with you or in love with you. ||1||Pause|| ਨਾਮੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਆਧਾਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਜਿਉ ਫੂਲੁ ਜਈ ਹੈ ਨਾਰਿ ॥ naam thaeraa aadhhaar maeraa jio fool jee hai naar || Your Name is my Support, like the flower blossoming in the water. ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਗੁਲਾਮੁ ਘਰ ਕਾ ਜੀਆਇ ਭਾਵੈ ਮਾਰਿ ॥2॥18॥69॥ kehi kabeer gulaam ghar kaa jeeaae bhaavai maar ||2||18||69|| Says Kabeer, I am the slave of Your home; I live or die as You will. ||2||18||69|| This is a continuation of the so-called poem I attempted yesterday. In fact, this is the solution to all problems. Once we can get through this, we will be able to face ANY situation, ANY person, ANY pain, ANY torture, ANYTHING! Its so remarkable how Guru Sahib has the answers, solutions, remedies and cures for EVERYTHING! A fool like me can try to make words rhyme and pretend it’s a poem. But Guru Sahib provides the ultimate responses. Once again, this is only my weak attempt to try and understand Gurujee’s agaadh bodh Bani. Please forgive any errors or shortcomings. ਫੁਰਮਾਨੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਸਿਰੈ ਊਪਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਨ ਕਰਤ ਬੀਚਾਰ ॥ furamaan thaeraa sirai oopar fir n karath beechaar || Your Command is upon my head, and I no longer question it. This pankti pretty much bombed me out. Being a fool, I commit 2 types of stupid mistakes and end up messing my head. Firstly, I am not at a high spiritual state to be able to realize what His furmaan (Hukam) is. So I beat my head on the wall when things don’t go as I want them to, or, even worse, I bang my head just at the mere thought “What if things don’t go the way I want them to!” Secondly, and this is even worse, I continue to worry and stress about something even after Gurujee has given His Hukam. This is the height of being a manmukh which is what I stand at. Bhagat Kabeer ji responds to people like me with a solid slap! He says “furamaan thaeraa sirai oopar”, thereby placing Gurujee’s Hukam at the topmost priority in His life, as the most important thing ever, and so he places it on his head. Next he says “fir n karath beechaar”, which means that once Gurujee has issued orders, a true Gurmukh never turns back, never questions it, doesn’t even think anything else, rather just jumps ahead and fulfills the command. He/she would stick to Maharaj’s bachan with more than 100% solid faith. I as a manmukh have miserably failed to do either one several times. May Maharaj bless all of us with such a courage that we can stick to all His bachans and never waver or slip at any cost! Then everything that happens in life is as per His Hukam, whatever it may be. ਤੁਹੀ ਦਰੀਆ ਤੁਹੀ ਕਰੀਆ ਤੁਝੈ ਤੇ ਨਿਸਤਾਰ ॥1॥ Another amazing pankti! This is like so soothing and inspiring! Vaheguru Himself is the river, Himself the boatman, and so He Himself carries us through. The way I understand it, Vaheguru Himself puts us in a particular situation, once we surrender to Him, He Himself takes us out of it and saves us. Hmmm, you know what, that just bombed me out once again. ਬੰਦੇ ਬੰਦਗੀ ਇਕਤੀਆਰ ॥ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਰੋਸੁ ਧਰਉ ਕਿ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥1॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ This pankti is the height of surrender a Gurmukh could surrender himself/herself to Gurujee. You surrender to Him unconditionally 100%, whether He hugs you or kicks you is upto Him, but your surrender should be complete. I was talking about “real challenges”, this is indeed the biggest challenge ever, so submit to His will, come what may, to surrender yourself at His feet, not caring what happens next, to leave all your expectations, wishes, wants, needs on Him, and forgetting about what is to come your way. Bhagat Kabeer ji has said in 2 panktis what a moorakh like me tried to say in a whole page, and Maharaj responded the very next day, reminding me of my small peanut sizzed intellect. ਨਾਮੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਆਧਾਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਜਿਉ ਫੂਲੁ ਜਈ ਹੈ ਨਾਰਿ ॥ In this pankti, Bhagat Kabeer ji enlightens us as to what is it that we solely should depend upon, and that is only and only Vaheguru’s Naam. He could have used any example, but he uses the analogy of a flower, because every true Gursikh is as beautiful as a flower, every true Gursikh is as captivating and charming like a flower. All other supports that you rely upon will at some point fail you, but His Naam wont, ever! ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਗੁਲਾਮੁ ਘਰ ਕਾ ਜੀਆਇ ਭਾਵੈ ਮਾਰਿ ॥2॥18॥69॥ Yet another pankti that has the fragrance of complete surrender. Imagine how desperate a bhagat is! He/she doesn’t care about results or consequences, he/she doesn’t bother about what lies ahead in future for him/her, he/she doesn’t know if he/she is going to jump off a cliff, or into a well. All they know is that they want Vaheguru to take charge of them, and everything about them. That is all they care about, that is all they know, and that is all they bother about. “jeeaae bhaavai maar” Bhagat Kabeer ji has not even kept the option of living or dying with him, even that he has left to Vaheguru. If only I could achieve a salt’s grain worth of this kind of sojhi and be able to surrender to Vaheguru!! Please forgive any errors that I may have made in understanding or interpreting Gurbani. My mind is soiled, dirty and filthy, my thoughts are nasty and disgusting, and so I may have not been fully able to bring out the real message of this divine shabad. ~ Mehtab Singh Aug. 20 2009

There are numerous examples in Gur Ithihas ( history ) , in Gurbani itself on how reading Gurbani daily can change one's karam. Sri Gurpratap Suraj Granth has many examples of how repitions of Sri Japji Sahib and Sri Sukhmani Sahib can bring about change in one's fortune. There's a fantastic book by Guriqbal Singh ( Mata Kaula Trust ) in which Bhai Sahib gives many modern day accounts of how one , two , or five Sri Sukhmani Sahib paaths daily can resolve particular problems. If we read the biographies of all mahan Gursikhs , they all did Sri Sukhmani sahib repititions daily which eventually led to suaas suaas simran avastha.