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What a wonderful gesture. To get these girls educated is possibly the best long-term gift anyone can give them.

Lets not beat about the bush all these discussions the UK Nangas are putting forward are to promote Brahmin practices in Sikhism. The Indian Brahmins since Guru Sahibs time have hated the Sikhs because of the Guru Sahibs challenge to them on their beliefs. After the Second Anglo Sikh war that ended in 1849 the Nihangs suffered heavy losses fighting for the Sikh state, after that they were closely monitored by the British to make sure they did not do anything against them and eventually ceased to be a threat to British rule. The Gurdwara reform process where Singhs laid down their lives in massive numbers in non violent ways to remove Brahmin Mahants from Gurdwaras, shocked the British and eventually forced them for the first time to yield to not only to Sikhs but any Indian. The organised Jathas of ordinary Sikhs united in their belief to rid their religion of Brahmin infiltration and British control was a triumph of Sikhs.The Sikh action spurred on others to oppose British rule, making a nonsense that some say that the Singh Sabha was British inspired. The SGPC was created to run Gurdwaras and prevent Mahants from returning again. Nehru and Gandhi were shocked at the power of the Sikhs and marked them as potential threats to them in the future. They set about weakening the SGPC and Akali Dal (run by proper Sikhs at the time) as soon as they got into power The SGPC could mobolise resources in large numbers as they did during the Punjabi Suba agitation, this infuriated Nehru and Indira and they set about trying to destroy it. The myths of Nihangs being the only true Sikhs was accelerated under their rule and they supported certain Nihangs, for example Santa Singh (Buddha Dal leader) working for Indira. This has continued today although the Indian Govt have established indirect control over the Akali Dal and SGPC and Sant Samaj.

Londoners Unite Against Hate Crime sangat ji please attend. this vigil is receiving support from external peace, facist and interfaith organisations. please attend, light a candle and show a united front against facism. poster attached.

Actually Paaji, you're probably right. It's just that alot of what he says is so predictable and school boyish it lead me to under estimate his intelligence. Some of the stuff he says makes me cringe. I get the same feeling listening to Nihal as I do when I happen to catch an episode of Alan Patridge. Now there's an interview I'd pay really good money to watch, or even just hear.... an interview between Alan Patridge and Nihal. That would be hilarious!!!

Paaji in the context of GURSIKHI I'm willing to listen and learn from anyone that works for the betterment of Guru Khalsa panth and advocates the eternal message of Siri Guru Granth Sahib maharaj, however I'm sorry but I'm not willing to learn or associate with those that have a dirty agenda (however unaware they like to pretent to be)... To all those that going and learning the martials from niddar but not taking in his warped messages, remember "if you lIe down with dogs, you will stand up with flees!!!!!" Bibi ji always told me "kuthay the poosh kaday nai sidthe houn the"

Bhaaji, before discussing Nihangs let us be clear which Nihangs are talking about? the UK ones or the Indian ones? The uk nangs are as much Nihangs as me putting on a crown and claiming I'm the king of England. You may like to deny your link with Niddar or his ideology but your posts are 100% in agreement with him. In India the Nihangs don't have this us vs them mentality as the UK ones do. The Indian ones respect Sant Jee and consider him a great Sikh. The only Indian Nihangs that Sikhs have a problem with are the kind that are featured in the video in the 1st post of this thread. A true Nihang who lives the life of a Gursikh is always respected by all. A pretender Nihang will always be known as a Nang and will not get respect in this world nor the next. Anyway, if you don't consider me or the average Sikh your brother that's up to you. No one here is going to change your views if you are not even willing to think outside the box. Rab Rakha

I love u because you are my brother! However mr reality is living on cloud cockoo land! He doesn't even have a micron of respect! That was shown clearly, when he refers to Sant Jarnail Singh ji as some commoner! Which we all know he learnt from his fake friends while munchin on a KFC

1st and foremost I love all Sikhs including Nihungs (be only those that like Jonny paaji said that "only those who live by all the commands of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee can be regarded as beyond scrutiny").. So people like me do the fooling?? Are you for real?? Read all my previous posts and tell me where the lies are! I look forwarding to your findings! From your reply to Jonny's comment about being in the same boat I see that you definitely have an agenda! Even if it's subliminally delivered to you by some fake nang! after which you regurgitate those thoughts to others on forums but pass those ideas off as purataanical ;-) Let me also set something straight for you! My understanding of Sikhi starts is with Akaal purakh maharaj... It just happens to be that the message that Waheguru maharaj delivered to the world again and again was ignored that's where it was brought again it the form of Sikhi through Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji maharaj and today resides with Siri Guru Granth Sahib maharaj today and forever more How dare you and your cronies disrespect the sacrifices made but Chardhi kala Gursikhs under the umbrella of the Singh Sabha movement... Also riddle me this! In all the sakhis of the Guru sahibans, Sahibzadas etc. that we're scalped, sat on hot plates, bricked alive, had garlands of their children hung round their necks where was the reference to bhang required to get through the pain?? You can deny your connection to nidarism but your rhetoric smacks of the the common tripe spouted in the uk these days!!

You are not a bad Sikh! You care about your kids' Sikh upbringing. That is great! If your partner wants to become a Sikh, then that is also good news! It means you both are on the same page. A Sikh does not discriminate based on skin color, caste, or creed. It shouldn't matter what race she is. A Sikh is anyone who believes in the mool mantar and lives their life according to the teachings of the Gurus and the Guru Granth Sahib, with the end goal of realizing God and thus achieving liberation. Taking Amrit shows a dedication to this path, because you are essentially making a formal promise to the Guru.

Delhi-based philanthropist Vikramjit Singh Sahney today announced that he would bear all expanses of the children of the two Sikh preachers who were killed in the recent Wisconsin gurdwara attack in the USA. Preachers Ranjit Singh and Sita Singh were among the six persons killed in the August 5 incident. Their young sons and daughters are living in Delhi. Sahney, chairman of the Sun Foundation and international president of the World Punjabi Organisation (WPO), said all expenses related to the marriage of daughters of the two preachers would be borne by him. He has also made fixed deposits of Rs 1 lakh each for the daughters of the deceased. Besides this, all needs of the young children of the victims would be taken care of by Sahney in terms of their education and upbringing. Sahney also announced that the WPO would confer a bravery award on Satwant Singh Kaleka, president of the Wisconsin gurdwara, who sacrificed his life fighting the attacker, thus giving enough time to women and children inside the gurdwara to move to safety. THE COMMITMENT z Vikramjit Singh Sahney has announced that he will bear all expenses related to the marriage of daughters of preachers Ranjit Singh and Sita Singh z He has also made fixed deposits of Rs 1 lakh each in the names of the young girls z Besides this, all other needs of the young children will also be taken care of by Sahney

O my soul, sing the Lord's praises ans say no more, Master yourself and follow he master.

Source: http://www.punjabnew...9-sukhbir/56064 . Cancel Canada visit, NRIs ‘advise’ Sukhbir Monday, August 13, 2012 - 14:00 By Sukhpal Kaur CHANDIGARH: Following the recent incident of lawsuit against Punjab Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal by Sikhs for Justice and pro-Khalistanis, some NRI bodies have advised the Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Badal to cancel his forthcoming visit to Canada. The lawsuit contends that Badal had shielded police officials who inflicted custodial torture and were responsible for the extra judicial killings and continuous human rights violations against the Sikh community in Punjab. It claims the federal court has jurisdiction under the Torture Victim Protection and Alien Tort laws. The lawsuit against Badal seeks jury trial, clearly indicates the anger of Sikh community for appointing tainted police officer Sumedh Singh Saini as Punjab DGP who is on trial for killing and abduction of innocents during militancy. Vikram JS Bajwa, President of Indian Overseas Congress, CA and Dr Rajwant Singh Dhillon, president of Punjab Canadian Foundation convened a joint meeting of the two organisations, senior members of Shiromani Akali Dal, Executives of gurdwaras in Vancouver, prominent NRIs to pay homage to those killed in Wisconsin Gurdwara shootout. In the meeting, the lawsuit filed by SFJ was discussed at length and it was resolved that Deputy CM should be advised to cancel his Canada visit. Deputy CM is scheduled to attend a conference to be organised by CIF in Vancouver in the month of September. The leaders have advised Sukhbir that instead of him the Punjab government should be represented bya senior IAS officer. The urged the Deputy CM to review his decision to visit Canada, keeping in mind the case filed against the Chief Minister in US. Petitions were regularly filed in US and Canada under torture laws, so Sukhbir can also come under scanner of Canada law. The joint statement said, “We have to advise the Indian leaders, irrespective of political affiliations, as our responsibility being NRIs to protect India’s interests and respect in the international community. All NRIs and their organisations have a responsibility to act as ambassadors of India.” It is pertinent to mention that Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi was denied visa by USA, on a similar petition filed by Muslim League. ****************************************************

Bro, it's really unfortunate you think so narrowly. It seems your views have recently taken a drastic change. Please don't think of fellow Gursikhs as the enemy. We are all brothers of the same Dasam Pita and in the same boat. We are not separate like Sunni Shia divide. We all believe in the same Bani. Then why so much hate for fellow Sikhs? I used to love reading your posts but now your posts are taking a very Niddarist/Snaatanist ideological turn. Please review your thoughts using Bibek Budh in light of Gurbani rather than any particular ideology.

Khalistani Gun Man Jee, Rajputs took Bhang during battle fine, but how much of that Bhang helped them in fighting the alert and drug free Pathaans and Turks who would massacre Rajputs and other Hindu warriors left and right? If one were to beleive that puraatan Singhs also took it, what is the justification of Nihangs taking it now? what battles are they fighting now that they need to take Bhang for no reason other than getting high? Today's nihangs have absolutely no justification for taking Bhang. Interestingly, the Marathas who did not have this tradition of taking Bhang during battle(like the Rajputs did) were the only Hindu group to successfully fight the Muslims(except for Panipat). Take the Singhs and Shaheeds during 84 who can be regarded as the true inheritors of the legacy of Puraatan Singhs. Did they need Bhang to numb their pain or to make them into fiercer fighters against the enemy? They only had the power of Naam & Bani and the unshakable Bhrossaa in Guru Jee to rely on rather than some worldly drug. I like Nihangs and I love their rehet. But only those who live by all the commands of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee can be regarded as beyond scrutiny. kabir bhang machli sura paan jo jo prani khahe, tirth varat nem kiye sabhe rasaathal jae kabir, one who consumes Bhang, fish or meat, no matter how many religious places he visits,how many fast he keeps, how much he prays, everything goes waste.

Mate I'm not some little kid from Southall that needs to here your mumboo jumbo or believe anything that comes from your brain! You have your agenda and good luck with that. You could create a thousand blogs and websites and books to fool the people, but it still doesn't make your theories true. You boys seems to band "puraatan" around like to subscribe to anything different to your deceptive theories is "neo" and cannot be classed as valid. "puraatan khalsa used anything in their means to survive" - Dear o deary me, I wonder who you would sell off down the river first??

I think he may possibly got one too many wedgies from Singhs in school and now the blood flow to his brain aint the best!

I do not say, go to the Temple or the Mosque, O mystic! Whichever way you go , there is the Beloved, O mystic!

If an African tells us he’s African and not Jamaican, does it mean he hates Jamaicans? If a Jamaican tells us he’s Jamaican and not African, does it mean he hates Africans? If Japanese told us he was Japanese and not Chinese, does it mean he hates Chinese? If a Chinese tells us he’s Chinese and not Japanese, does it mean he hates Japanese? If a Pakistani tells you he is Pakistani and not Indian does that mean he hates Indians? If a Hindu tells you that he is Hindu and not Muslim, does that mean he hates Muslims? If a Hindu tells you he’s a Hindu and not a Sikh, does that mean he hates Sikhs? If a Christian tells you he’s a Christian and not Jewish, does that mean he hates the Jews? If a Jew tells you he is a Jew and not Christian does that mean he hates Christians? If a Muslim tells you he is a Muslim and not a Jew does that mean he hates Jews? If a Jew tells you he is a Jew and not a Muslim, does that mean he hates Jews? If an Austrian told us he was an Austrian and not German, does that mean he hates Germans? If a German tells us he is German and not Austrian, does that means he hates Austrians? If a New Zealander told us he was from New Zealand and not Australia, does that mean he hates Australians? If an Australian told us was an Australian and not from New Zealand, does that mean he hates New Zealanders? If a Sikh tells you he is a Sikh and not a Hindu, does that mean he hates Hindus? If a Sikh tells you he is a Sikh and not a Muslim, does that mean he hates Muslims?

Not sure how healthy this is, but its a simple one http://www.kothiyavunu.com/2010/03/kadai-panner-indian-cottage-cheese-with.html P.S. You needn't fry the paneer, and use the cubes as they are.. and add them at the end when the curry is all made.. sounds okee? One can play a bit here n there

To be a sacrifice to the dust the Lover's feet tread over - This, O Goya, is the only wish of your heart.

Millions carry their head in their hand, Standing with their backs to the wall, in love.

What are they, O Goya, who live in His name? They are like the Sun, that lights the world.

Blessed is the footstep that treads on the path of love, Blessed is the tongue which in invoking the name of God finds its reward.

I said "I offer my life for a single glimpse of you", "Between you and me there can be no bargain" Said the Beloved.

My heart is burnt with pain of separation My Soul is flaming with desire for the sight of the Beloved.

Whichever way I looked, with the eye of search, Even into the abode of my own self, I found it to be the house of God.

Wakefulness is the life of those who know love, Say goodbye, O Goya, to the dawn of sleep.

If you have your head, take it as an offering to lay at his feet; If you have Life, sacrifice it at his altar, if need be. If you have hands, go and catch the garment of the Beloved O traveller on the path [of Truth], and walk the same way, if you feet have the pride of speed.

He is to be seen everywhere, but where is the eye that can see Him?

If the heart gets wise, it finds the Beloved inside it. If the eye can see, the Beloved is everywhere.

Blessed be the breath spent in invoking the Truth, Like the breeze every breath of life passes while we look on.

O come for a moment and sit in my eyes, If You sit in my eyes and gladden my heart, Oh, what happens!