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U hav to go pesh.. rest is up to panj pyare. They may just forgive u without retaking amrit.

A great Shaheed of the Panth. He challenged the Punjab police at a time when people were literally terrified of the Punjab police. But not Sardar Jaswant Singh Khalra. He was a lone lion who challenged the pack of hyenas(Punjab police) and ultimately gained Shaheedi going through the worst torture imaginable before dying. Parnaam Shaheedaan nu

You're a deep thinker. Taran jee you have perfectly described every Punjabi family out there. Especially the part of apne helping out their relatives back home in India all their lives only to get dissed afterwards. But the worst relatives are the ones trying to grab your Jameen when you are in the west working 24/7. Almost every Punjabi family you talk to in the west has a bitter story of being betrayed by their relatives in India. One should never be too overly generous to their relatives back home no matter how good they seem at first.

I thought she would have left the faith but she's still a strong sikh!

How a parent/sibling could identify 12 Tell Tale Signs of a child being groomed- TONIGHT Sunday 8th Sept on the Sikh channel SKY channel 840 at 8pm by Bhai Mohan Singh of the Sikh Awareness Society

Oh that's nice! I live steps away from a Gurdwara, Church and Mosque. I go to the Church with Christian friends on Christmas and have been to the Masjid on numerous occasions as well, the atmospheres are really different and I like learning about teachings of other religions. Happy belated Ramadan and Eid

With regards to the bold part, my father has never once in my lifetime told me that he loves me. He has not uttered those words to my brother or sister either. I know by the way he acts that he does, and actions speak louder than words. He works his butt off to make sure we are in a position to succeed, he has told us before that he is proud of us, that he wants the best for us, but he shows very little emotion, that emotional connection just isn't there. It would be nice to hear those words at least once out of his mouth. And because of his withdrawn feelings, I have a very hard time talking to him about deep/personal issues. If I wanted career/educational advice, my dad was always the person to go to. But as far as relationships and especially dealings with the opposite sex are concerned, I cannot bring any of that up with him, it would be far too awkward, we have never been able to talk about those things. It is sad because 90% of our conversations are based around something to do with jobs/career, Uni/education, it is embarrassing to admit but it has gotten to the point where I try to avoid him as much as possible just because I am tired of talking about the same old things over and over again. I am glad he takes an interest in my professional life, but it is really suffocating at times, I wish he'd let me figure things out on my own instead of breathing down my neck all the time. What angers me the most is that he has lived such an amazing life, coming from an ordinary family in a poor village in Punjab around the time of the partition, he made something of himself and did not settle for a meager existence, worked harder than everyone around him in school and got acceptance into a program in the UK, lived/worked/studied there for 20-something years and is now in Canada. I know almost nothing about his life story, I wish I did, I wish he would tell me what it was like to leave everything behind and go to a whole new part of the world and start from scratch, not once but twice, but he never brings it up. You are right about the friends thing, our mother is like a friend and we can talk to her about most things, but it isn't like that with dad.

Vahiguroo this is amazing- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofTFJ41rznA

Damdami Taksal Rehitnama says kesri, chitta, neela and kaala are the 4 colours of the khalsa..... And we should refrain from adorning soohi laal and goora harra rang. The rehitnama was agreed by Baba Thakur Singh, Sant Jarnail Singh Ji and the previous jathedars. The maryada continues from Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji and Shaheed Baba Mani Singh Ji. Directly from Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

This is my impression of our Shaheeds speaking to those who leave Sikhi as a result of inappropriate pre-marital relationships. I have written this in a very painful state of mind reading news of Sikh girls (and boys) destroying their lives, especially after reading all those grooming news articles about what has been happening in UK. Gurmukh pyaareyo, we now speak to you This one small thing we want to get through Just so you woke up in freedom at dawn We smiled while we were brutally sawn Just so you had joys that were high priced We didn't care if our scalp was sliced Just so you relished celebrations that were grand We fought with our severed heads on our hands Just so you could thrive on this planet, although scattered We mounted those wheels to get ourselves shattered We went through that agony, we went through that pain Just so you wouldn't face them again We got ourselves boiled, bruised and burnt But can you tell us what have you learnt? You decide to quit Sikhi in the blink of an eye You shame our blood before every passerby The pleasures of the flesh have made you blind What species are you? Oh what is your kind? We held to our faith inspite of being blown We roared the Jakaare as bombs were thrown In came the enemy, and their huge tanks rode In our dying moments we defended Guru's abode Bullets hit us bad and our skin was torn Delighted we died, coz we don't know how to mourn Our foes bowed their heads seeing our determination We faced them head on, not fearing extermination But today you kids have brought us shame Please tell us this much, who do we blame? You first ruin your bodies, and then you soil your souls Your brains have become rotten, and mind is full of holes Are you really those, for whom we smiled at death? Smiled as we were losing our very last breath? Are you really those who would make us proud? Or forget about us as a passing rain cloud? For you we saw our babies getting ripped apart We didn't act clever, cunning or smart For you we happily had our skin peeled But your choices today have your fate sealed If you still have honor in the least bit Then listen to this message if you think you are fit Sikhi is what made us into all that you read We were not mere sheep, we were a lion's breed You proudly hang our images instead What use are they? To bang your head? You shame our blood, you shame our names! Your false pride will soon go up in flames! Today we are hurt, today we are ashamed This generation is spiritually maimed Gurmukh pyaareyo, we now speak to you This one small thing we want to get through You've fallen in our eyes, you've fallen from grace We wait for you to come and show us that face Mehtab Singh September 3, 2013

Padh padh alam faazal banya, kadhi apne aap noo padhya nahi.... We have read books and become scholars; regrettably we don't read ourselves. How many times a day, do we entertain: Kaam, krodh, lobh, moh, and ahankar. By entertaining these 5, we have moulded our next pitiful life... Waheguru...

Not necessarily a conspiracy; there might really be gays born into Sikh families who are terrfied of coming out... ...and before anyone tries to be clever, no, I'm not one of them, and this isn't a cry for help. :lol2:

LOL Hibab!