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WJKK WJKF I agree with everything you have said but I believe nothing will happen. If nobody at that particular time stood up to stop this beadbi out of the sangat, nobody will raise the issue after especially ou so called leaders. It's the sangat who should raise this complaint to the channel as it should be condoned and not ignored. Sikhs these days are to worried about arguing in regards to the meat issue, rather than highlighting and condemning this sort of thing. The small amount of contributors to this very post reflects the view of many "sikhs". Many people agree with the sentiments expressed on that stage, only a few dont. Someone soon enough will come and post that you and me are internet warriors and what are we gona do about it lol. However simply by updating the sangat on this forum is actually doing something about it. I think complaints should be made to the channel, the channel what also broadcasts the "sikh" matrimonial show, which is caste based as discussed before. WJKK WJKF

Bhai Guriqbal Singh Ji answering the concerns of people on spiritual journey. The book is in the form of questions and answers. Jeevan Sedhan.pdf.pdf

Did anyone else take notice that langars in North America (and maybe Europe - never been there) are usaully very rich - many dishes , paneer lots of sweets, smosas etc. This creates a bad incentive for people to come just looking for satiating their tongue rather than the spirit. Langar halls have way more 'sangat' comapred to darbar halls. Wonder what this does to the morale of keeranias and kathawachaks. In India langar is very simple - daal and roti and mabye achaar at the most ...

Sure simple healthy meals would be awesome. What is the reasoning behind simple meals? I think the wrong message is being attached to having simple meals. One good part is healthy meals, but can't other things like somasa be healthy if cooked with healthy ingredients and methods? The one daal system is and can be abused by adding many spices and much salt. Really does not help keeping it healthy or simple. The issue I think is with personalities. People need different kinds of flavors in their lives. They cannot taste the flavor from reading Gurbani. So amritdhari husband and wife find ways to increase this flavor in life. Yet they want to eat simple foods and promote simple foods at the gurdwara. They go on lavish vacations, restaurants, hotels, drive fancy cars, big house with expensive furniture etc. The weekend comes and they cannot wait to get out and have fun. Simplicity starts at home and I dont mean a house. It starts with training the mind to enjoy the company of Gurbani 24/7 and letting go of your manmukh lavishes ways. Our Guru trained us to look at lavish items and ugly or has the kids now say eewwww old as one and the same. Amritdhari women spend thousands dollars on suits and dont do seva because it will get dirty and Singhs spend thousand of dollars on dress suits not doing seva because it might get dirty. Manmukh self really comes out on weddings. All shirt and tie but no one is going to do seva. Next day same Singh in a Bana is sitting in diwan like a stone meditating. Where is the Sikhi in this foolish behavoir?

WJKK WJKF, Totally agree with your views, it's funny how it's an "alleged" incident and how "overall" the speaker is anti caste lol? What a metaphor to use, how daft do they think sangat is to state in their clarification that the metaphor he gave was about equality, rightly said by you you only drink water from a tap, not out the toilet as due to the quality and more to the point and stating the obvious, one urinates and excretes in the toilet! Why oh why would someone use that as a metaphor lol? As got the sangat, either they supported his views or many were simply giddhar, as a sikh of Shiri guru gobind Singh would have roared this fool down. I'm not to concerned either about when and what the akj'a believe system is or what they are based on, as my only believe system is that of one kaum, one caste, one creed, one khalsa! WJKK WJKF

Lol! That is so weak and down right untrue. Anyway I have been told it was reviewed by Derby Gurughar. He had finished the point and had moved on to another topic. The video has been put up on youtube. All the other speakers spoke of the need to tackle the issue of caste, as it is a problem within our community. He said "caste will end with time (implying we don't need to get involved.) Time always changes things. The same water that comes out of the tap in our houses is the same water that is in our homes in our toilets. You are all knowledgable have you ever drank water out of the toilet?? Because it is a matter of quality. When people will change their habits and obtain 'ghun' then others will start liking them!!!!!! And then caste will end!!!!!!!!! Implying that people of lower social status are without ghun and unliked!!!! Bhai Joga Singh made an excellent speech. Following this the other speaks talks utter rubbish. I have just been informed they are reviewing what happened and having a follow up show this Sunday where the person has been asked to clarify what he meant. This will be interesting. Especially as I have since heard this has not been the first time he has used this example when informing someone that so called 'lower class' people are beneath him. I have also been told that three people have witnessed him saying the exact same thing previously. Here's the video http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XgexN81z2Sg Follow up show Sunday 4th May at 16.00 from Derby Gurdwara. Respect to Sangat Tv for bringing this issue up after reviewing their position. I don't think the guy will clear his position on Sunday because how can he? I think if the issue is not cleared anti discrimination groups should take up the issue with full vigour. A Singh from kesri Lehar just came on Venus tv and absolutely slated the kempston gurdwara speaker for his views. Will upload soon. Said totally against sikhi and rajoana sohchi which he stands up for.

I totally agree with your observations. Traditionally, langar was quite simple and enrich full of protein and satvic in nature- for eg- dhaliya (oatmeal), dhaal, rice-sweet rice at times, roti and kheer. We should go back to root of langar maryada which- daliya(oatmeal) chaul(rice), dal(lentils without any tarka) and kheer, simple satoguni food which everyone can digest..we should avoid cooking and serving enrich rajoguni food as langar. The stuff we eat now - rajoguni enrich foods at langar especially at abroad gurdwaras is no where close to what sangat used to eat around Guru's time.Read Bhai Chaupa Singh Rehitnama along with his grandson bhai chibber singh rehitnamas talks about the diet in detail. I strongly believe whatever we eat affects our mind, too much rajas and tamas does not help with focus, makes our mind chanchal, lazy not to mention aggression and bring sheer hyper ism. Also on another note many in punjabi community have serious entitlement issues, one can clearly see how they act in langar their attitude is ungrateful, impatient show hardly any gratitude towards sevadars and overall its all like they totally take it for granted..lets not spoil them more with enrich buffet style food.

VJKK VJKF Can sangat please let me know of any Amrit Sanchars? May 2014 would be preferable..

CLARIFICATION Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara Clarification of alleged incident on Derby Question & Answer session broadcasted 20th April 2014 Q & A sessions are being regularly held by panellists of Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Derby on Sangat TV (Sky 847) on Sundays from 4 to 5.30 PM for more than two years. A session of Q & A was held on 20th April 2014 on the last day of week-long religious ceremonies at the Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Derby. The panellists reflected on the constitution of Sikh concept of governance. All panellists expounded on the Sikh philosophy contained in Sri Guru Granth Sahib that is founded on liberty, fraternity, equality and justice. Also facts about meditation, sharing, earnest earning, service, democratisation and decentralisation were highlighted. It was clearly emphasised that there was no place for discrimination against any one on caste, creed, race, religion, region and gender. Joga Singh mentioned that AKJ’s practices are anti-caste and anti-racial as inter-caste marriages have been performed in it since its inception. This has been recognised by the complainant. However, a complaint has been made against Mr ***** Singh from Bedford who spoke for the first time on that day and was attending the religious functions in Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Derby. He was given to speak towards the last two minutes of the programme. Overall, he spoke in support of equality and no caste discrimination. He took the example of water that is used in the kitchen as well as in the toilet but it is the same water at both places. The same way the essence in all individuals is the same, and hence there exists no place for discrimination. Unfortunately, when he was mentioning about the sameness of water as a foundation to his argument there occurred a technical fault in the live TV relay from Derby side. The Sangat TV called Derby and told that the picture had frozen. Before the relay could resume the Derby Q & A time had already finished and Mr ****** Singh’s speech was only heard partly which has been (and could be) misinterpreted. In no way Mr ****** Singh deviated from other panellists in conveying that here was no place for caste discrimination in the Sikh religion. Had he made any derogatory comments against any caste the hundreds of Sangat sitting in front of this relay in Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Derby would have objected. But none did so as his remarks were not anti-caste. We express our concern and regret for the unintentional interruption in the TV relay that resulted in distortions of speech to the extent of being misinterpreted and causing a hurt to some viewers. We reiterate that we fully believe and practice equality in accordance with our Gurus’ dictates. We have no hesitation in condemning anybody speaking against the basic principles of Sikhi that entail equality of all humans. We shall observe more caution in the future. Q & A Team of Sangat TV (Sky 847) Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Derby 27th April 2014 Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh !!!!

As a debate topic from the perspective of gurbani, I think this question is a pretty good one. I say, the intent behind the duplicitous nature of the act is what matters. Its all about having a shudh hirda. So for e.g.. . Ridai shudh jo ninda hoae hanre kapre nindak dhoae. Thanks. Gurfateh

From criminal to christian.. Glad he's given up being a drunken thug. This is a good example of someone who has never delved into sikhi and naam, hence has never lived as gurus sahib has prescribed.. as a saint soldier. He would have had more of a chance had he married a sikh girl. Guru sahib kirpa karan

At some point during the last century, humans have decided that in order to be happy, we have to work our off not because we need to provide for our families, but because we need to buy the best newest stuff. The newest phone, the newest car, the biggest house etc.. Lately, a German intern died after 72 hours of no sleep because he's working at an investment bank and is willing to sacrifice what it takes, even his life, so that he secures his 'future' of endless stream of buying stuff that will define who he is. That's basically our lives nowadays, we work not because we need to fulfill a certain adequate of standard of living for those we care about, we work so that we buy stuff and spend what we earn on going to fancy restaurants and clubs. And the problem is the buying never stops, you will keep spending your money on stuff that will in the end consume you instead of you consuming them Farida Roti meri kaath kee , laavan meri bukh jere Khange chopriya , ghane sehenge dukh ... You can say that each person lives his own life, and I can't say that's wrong for a person to work all day just so that he buys the newest car, but the problem with this hyper-consumption is that if it's sustained, it will be the end of humanity. Imagine if all the Indians and the Chinese (and not just a small subsection of them) can afford to live the same lifestyle the Westerners do. Also, just look at pictures of Beijing and Shanghai, see the blinding fogs they have there. It's not because of THEIR aggressive manufacturing it's because of OUR aggressive consumption. Nobody stops to think that his designer clothes is made by the hands of small children working in the most dangerous environments that significantly contribute to the world's pollution levels. That's the biggest threat to humanity as a whole and to us as individuals. We forgot about human happiness, instead we are willing to work half our day so that we can make payments to our houses and cars and when you finish paying you realize you're a disease-ridden old man and that your life is already over. And I am not saying I am not implicated in this or I won't be even more implicated in the future, I am just complaining that we have become passive consumerists

what a write up - admins make this a sticky for life - 100% spot on chardeee kala --

☬Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fareh. ☬ Its like doing abhiyaas like when one learns new method to do new sum he is advised to practice it so many times so that it settles in his mind..so same logic here

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh another stab in the back of the panth by these dogs, a young sikh is shot dead in the back by the butchers in uniform, it takes years for an enquiry, but what did we except? killing after killings same result the killers walk free. only way is to get freedom so these things dont happen Dhan Dhan Shaheed Bhai Jaspal Singh Ji you will be always in our hearts Proceedings against SSP to be dropped, govt tells court Tribune News Service http://www.tribuneindia.com/2014/20140410/punjab.htm#22 Chandigarh, April 9 Nearly a year after a youth was shot when the police opened fire to disburse a protesting mob in Gurdaspur, the state government has decided to drop proceedings against Gurdaspur’s then SSP Varinderpal Singh and then DSP Manpreet Singh. An affidavit to this effect was filed by retired Additional District and Sessions Judge BC Gupta. He was made the inquiry officer, replacing retired IAS officer C S Talwar Gupta told the court that the proceedings were being dropped as the allegations could not be established. The government has already ordered stoppage of one annual increment of Under Secretary (Home) Sewa Singh after holding him responsible for causing delay in Gurdaspur firing case. The government also decided to drop the charges against PCS officer Tejinder Pal Singh after he was given a clean chit in an inquiry into the allegations of dereliction of duty.

What needs to be looked at is how the Sikh Gurus handled and dealt with those who claimed to be the Guru in comparison to Mohammad. It does not matter whether one is a family or not. During Guru Nanak Dev Ji, a Nanoo Pandit adopted the name Nanak and claimed to be the prophesized prophet but when he had a dialogue with Guru Sahib, he admitted his mistake and reformed himself. On the other hand, when someone claimed to be a prophet during Mohammads time, the latter sent his followers to kill the former. No dialogue ever took place. This shows how Mohammad reacted violently when his ego was hurt. If one wants to compare apples to apples then the only correct comparison is the time period of the first Guru and Mohammad because both were first leaders of their respective communities. Guru Sahib appointed a successor which kept Gurmat from falling in divisions and internal conflicts. Opposition that came from Minas, Ram Rais etc. was from those who had deviated from Gurmat and can be compared to those like Abu Jahl. The cause of opposition was the desire to become the rightful heir to Gurugaddi. Guru Sahib or Sikhs never showed violent hostility towards such groups. Even after ascension of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, Sikhs did not kill any fake gurus. It was easy for the Gurus to eliminate such groups but being full of mercy and having conquered their ego, they did not act in anger. They believed that falsehood doesnt last forever and in lapse of time such groups disappeared. This shows that Sikhs bore no hatred for any such groups. Mohammad on the other hand had no plans to appoint any successor which is why no one from his family could claim to be the next prophet. Also, Mohammad had no sons when he died so who could really lay any claim? Nonetheless, his death brought internal conflict over the next leader and eventually resulted in Shia Sunni split. Sikh nation has never faced such a split. Various jathebandis with minor rehat differences are unanimous that Sri Guru Granth Sahib is the rightful successor of Gurugaddi. Those who claimed to be the prophet after Mohammads death were severely dealt with and killed. Further, Mohammad had his own share of problems and family feuds. His wives were constantly involved in conspiracy, slandering and bickering over sex nights. They were jealous of each other constantly engaged in trying to win more nights by badmouthing the other. At least two of Mohammads marriages were broken on the wedding night even before he had the chance to consummate. He was so disturbed that he left all his wives for some time and vowed to not have sex with them. He even threatened to divorce them if they didnt correct their attitude and Allah threatened to replace them with better wives. Guru Sahib had no such conflicts with their wives. Whereas Sikh Gurus and Sikhs showed compassion and adopted more liberal attitude towards the opposing groups, Mohammad and Muslims were ruthless, hateful and intolerant.

Aim of the game: $$$ Money hai toh honey hai...

It's okay I respect your opinion

Lol i stopped at services on the way to london and this hare krishna hippy approaches me offering a free copy of the gita. I kindly declined. He then went on to tell me krishna wore a turban as i do, i smiled and let him blab since i cant say ive ever met the blue man. But then he came out with, "guru nanak worshipped lord krishna". At this point i was fuming. I explained to this bandar how misinformed he was but he had none of it. Instead he had the audacity to question where i had read this from! What i said after this, i dont think i can post here...

Keep anonymous and there shouldn't be a problem. Don't ever give personal details on FB or other forums. He must be really scared if he's gone off the Meeri and now just concentrates on Peeri!

this is seriously very disgusting!! I am disgusted... He better pays for it like Ram Rai

Is full voile the best material to get for dumalla?

WJKK WJKF When Shiri guru nanak dev ji pressed the roti earned from honest/dishonest earnings blood and milk poured out. Blood from out a roti? Also how do you then justify beating a tabla brought from sangat money to the shabad of gurbani. Is the skin of goats used for our musical instruments any different to the goats meat? Do you think it's justified for those goats to be killed for the production of our musical instruments, aslong as us sikhs dont do the killing and the bad Karam goes on to the killer? WJKK WJKF

Great post rrss it was a pleasure to read but realistically do you see anything other than a major world shaking event bringing people out of this toxic way of life?

Veer rrss jee , thanks for taking time to comment , can you enlighten how you are on this path to self sufficiency ?

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh panthicunity, you have hit upon a truth of life, a truth which is given by the guru, but like other truths is paid lip-service and is presently ignored and lobbed into the waste basket. Consumerism, capitalism, indeed any form of 'ism' is a terrible disease. Why is it a disease? There has always been lust, greed, ego etc in society translating into uncessary wants, desires and ego fulfilling megalomania, however it was never part of 'popular culture' or the mainstream. For the large part of human history, we have lived HEALTHY and HAPPY lives, and GOD has provided EVERYTHING that we NEED. The Gurus themselves, when in human form had rich and fulfilling lives in every sense. Working hard with his hands to sow his own grain as part of a self-sufficient community, Guru Nanak Sahib ji had everything any self-aware human being could possibly want- God, clean organically grown food grown by his own hand, modest organic clothing made by his own hand and modest hutment to live in with his family, made from renewable materials, living in perfect balance with the natural workd, as pristine and unspoiled nature is God's form as much as any other. The Gurus in human form were experienced horsemen, swordsmen, excelled at poetry and philosophical endevours and took pain in the suffering of the world and were ergo the highest order of philantropists. They did not have any need for MONEY for everything they had and could ever want was provided by living in a symbiotic relationship with their natural surroundings. Pind Nanaki, which is now consumed by Anandpur Sahib, was in particular set up by Guru sahib to be a model small scale self sufficient community, living in balance in a symbiotic relationship with their pristine surroundings (ancient forests and wildlife). Such a life is so great that you will not be able to imagine it and it's benefits- one of the core reasons why today's mainstream lifestyle is such a disease- for we are limited to what we have and are able to experience. Once unspoiled nature is wiped out and limited to small pockets- we know no other way of life. One thing that nobody would pay attention to is sound. We ignore sound. Sound has historically played a great role in the development of humans. Our brains prioritise sound. The universe was created with sound. The sound current of the Naad vibrates in the Shabad, party through sound that may actually be perceived. For one who's inner ear is active through God's grace, is unfortunately overwhelmed by NOISE. Even your mobile phone has electronic parts that give off low frequency noise. The oceans today are abound with noise. This is interfering with the existence of the world at a very subtle and unexplainable (by today's knowledge of 'science') way. However to you, you know no other and it is accepted as normal. The consumerist world is visually driven- media, advertising, sex, suble sound is given the short stick. Keertan (praise the lord God whom I love), is struggling today. For your own amusement, ask a so called 'sikh sant' about said noise and he will be as clueless as a fish out of water. If the shabad guru were to take a human body today, his first reaction would be to instantly recoil and plug his ears for the global background noise from mechanics and electronics is overwhelming to the natural ear. This is one of many subleties that we ignore on a daily basis because we simply don't know better. The Gurus in human form did not have mass consumer products, electricity etc. Their manner of living was akaal- timeless- they were not, contrary to what the so called 'babas' and 99% of the "sikhs" today will tell you, which I personally consider to be absolure heresy, that the Gurus in human form were poor unfortunate backward uneducated people living in poverty of body and mind. They will not say so in those precide words but they will readily imply it in suggesting that the Gurus would "jump" at the "opportunity" to live with today's mod cons and consumerist lifestyle. In other words, in these days of Godlessness, we do not trust, nor believe the Guru nor follow their example when it does not suit. Dhan shabad guru cries hoarse about the pointlessness of accumulating uncessary material wealth. Gurbani refers to the futineless of applying the cleverness of the mind towards unjust and pointless means, and that they will not only be left behind, but may be the cause of problems unto yourself and others, including the natural words. Gurbani taken as a whole is profound to the extent, in my opinion, that the vast majority of people are perhaps unwilling to put it all together, or they are simple unwilling- stuck in the downward spiral of maya initiated by their own selfish egoistic houmai-ridden selves. Punjabis, who make up the overwhelming majority of Sikhs are amongst the most materialistic and consumerist societies in existence today. Statistics show that they are they make up the most materialistic and consumerist immigrant communities in the UK and the USA, surpassing the Jews, who (stereotypically) have a history of hoarding wealth. Punjabis within India are part of the whole developing nation system, that is to say, mindless "devepment" and "progress" at any cost, however what "development" and "progress" exactly? Punjab today has toxic rivers and polluted air, if there is any water at all left to flow, non existent ancient forest cover, no real pristine unspoiled nature to speak of and people are unsprisingly dying of cancers and various modern age lifestyle diseases, and this indeed holds true for most of the Sub continent. There are fortunately some who appeal for zero development, but such people are dismissed without though, as "backward savages" (whereas in fact they may be highly enlightened). How does one do introspection without bias is a valid question I hear you ask (or indeed should be asking). In order to be able to analyse the situation, one must disassociate from the present, as if we were looking at our present as if it were some civilisation in history. Only through this detachment from the daily grind, are we able to see how such fools we are. It is well established (all agree regardless of faith or godlessness), that life's true meaning is about positive virtues and self enlightemnment and indeed this is where the West his been headed in aspiration for a while now- i.e. clean air, health, organic food, world-free from poverty and suffering, sparing nature, pursuit of arts, poetry and philosophy etc- unfortunately they do it in the only way they know how- i.e. through the global economic system- i.e. ratrace to the top, collecting as much money as possible, trickle down to the poor, gaining the stresses and diseases of this life, and then trying to supplement it with the afore-mentioned good stuff (at the expense of dumping their waste then on the third world), further concreting in the minds of those in the developing countries that this is the only way to personal salvation. God of course be damned or is separate from life itself. And for those who cry hoarse about econmics and poverty- All whilst Gurbani tells us that poverty and suffering are a cause of human greed and selfishness, rather than any inherent trait- for God created the most perfect system and is the source of all things good. All the greatest thinkers throughout human history agree. You however may not agree based simply on the fact that you're part of this sytem. It is a highly intoxicating system from which we cannot detach for even mere self-introspection. It is a disease, a cancer of the highest order. Ask a so called 'sikh saint' about living a self-sustainable life, they way God has willed and he will look at you stupidly. Let us compare to the time of Guru sahib in human form- when the lions roamed free from persecution, from Gujarat to the Himalayas, when the rivers flowed undammed and where Guru Gobind Singh received the shabad of Benti Choupaye from Akaal Purakh and immortalised the teer sutadrav within it. There are no two ways about it- humans are a scourge on the earth- every place they occupy becomes wasteland or concrete jungle. We generally struggle to coexist with nature and wildlife is killed of in the biggest genocide in the history of the world- flora and fauna that have flourished for millions of years undisturbed and which at a subtle level, more subtle than man may ever be able to comprehend actually support our survival including through the subtle vibrations they release, but that is the subject of another debate. The human population explosion in the world is a NEW phenomenon. If you don't believe the GURU sahib, then please read "The third revolution" by Paul Harrison (http://www.amazon.com/The-Third-Revolution-Environment-Sustainable/dp/0140146598), which should be essential reading in schools- you absolutely must read this in order to understand why we are where we are today. Was the world always exploding with humans spilling out of every corner of the earth, widespread famines and diease, polluted water and air, consumerism/money/economics/capitalism/communism/'ism's of any kind- a big fat emphatic NO. We started out as living in small self sufficient, happy and healthy communities- highly rich in language, arts, culture and science (the average man knew more about astronomy and nature than you, the alleged modern school system educated reader). Research also about the native americans- not the plains Indians immortalised in pop western films, but rather the highly advanced aztec and other southern native populations wherein each man was farmer-priest-worker and soldier rolled into one (ring any bells?). Watch the documentary "500 nations" to know more about these enlightened people (again partly as we rather not believe the Guru's shabad and life example and like to believe others). Of course all the peace loving and highly advanced civilisations in existence were wiped out by greed and conquest at the end of the day. If we want to believe the Gurus, the poignant truth is available in the Shabad if you search with a true heart. The truth are available directly to those Gurmukhs whose mind is attached solely on GOD, if they so yearn for said truth. If however you are unable to do mere introspection and are unwilling to even consider than any alternative to the mainstream popular way of money driven- life being aspired for today, even exists, forget even could be optimal, then that is ego of the highest order, for we must always challenge our assumptions, no matter how basic, and learn the truth from the Guru and ask guide to guide us INTUITIVELY. Life is meant to be intuitive. Sahej. Without uncessary mental stress, consumerism ratrace included. Any any all so called 'modern' development is nothing more than a solution to problems created by previous "developments". Think about it. Do you know that today's lifestyle would not have been possible without oil? I bet you do not know that Guru Gobind Singh ji expressly forbade the burning of crude oil: maati ka tel jo is par jaale, maat ka tel phir usee ko jaale ['maati ka tel' actually meaning 'crude oil' and not just kerosene oil, which is one of the early petroleums. Plastics and chemicals are made from oil. This means an entirely organic life using renewable materials in all aspects of life. The Gurus lived this life and today even the "babas" cannot manage without crude oil and it's derivatives. But it's possible I assure you. Read also the "one straw revolution" by Fukuoka, another book for essential reading, it will help you break your mind's link between "job" "naukri" "money" etc and life. [Gurbani is very clear as to what is one's true profession and one's true trade and job but we pay these shabads lip-service as usual]. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS JOB OR PROFESSION. In fact it is downright ridiculous to define yourself by this. On ownership: Gurbani is again very clear on what is capable of being owned. Slavery has existed in human history and continues to exist. The majority of 21st century slaves including children sex slaves, exist in India- a shameful truth indeed. Whilst today we have begun to understand that human beings cannot be 'owned', not long ago it was the norm to consider ownership of an individual, as mainstream thought. The bible, koran, torah, hindu scriptures all accept slavery, even if they ask one to be kind to one's slaves. God rejects slavery and seeks emancipation of his form. It is all his form. ALL. Parcicularly unspoiled nature. People buy and sell land. They are slave owners and enslave nature for their benefits. It is no secret that the big consumer push in the last 200 years has been on the back of slavery of humans prior and nature subsequent- for such 'development' needs to come from somewhere. In the sense that energy is finite, someone has to suffer for another's immoral gain. One can be a humble servant of God and be both friend and guardian of land. Nature has a right to self existence. Humans however see unspoiled nature as being far too much a temptation- for it must be conquered. There are some places where we are just not meant to be. Can you imagine a life without money? Without being a wage slave? Living in a peaceful, self-sufficient sustainable community that is highly self-aware? One where the naam vibrates? One where wildlife roam free? Can such a life exist today? It is very difficult but possible and this servant is amongst a few who have been ordered by God to try to make it possible. For today's lifestyle is not sustainable and will implode, I forewarn you. And when this happens only those who are living by their own hands will survive. And such life is bliss and the closest one to God whilst still living, I assure you. For anyone who reads this, let it be a though provoking message for self-intrspection, I do not present you with this golden information for mindless debate on this website- my words are for self introspection and if you want to know more, do an ardaas and God will lead you to like minded individuals, Inshallah. Please do not insult this servant of the Lord God by reading too far into the inevitable errors in the message, for he is not perfect, but the essence I hope is clear enough. Many words and no praise for God- such is my ego. God is my true inspiration, my sole friend, my only passionate lover, my parents, my support and my destroyer too. Unseen and unheard or conspicuous- he is all I see in everything- man, animal or tree, thoughts, actions and words, God is there waiting to be recognised. I rarely use internet today as I have left behind my 'consumerism' life of old, and only use this technology during the transition to a life free of . It is my God given mission to assist in bringing a self sustaining natural way of life back to humanity and I will happily die towards this aim- and die I might need to as this disease of consumerism/money is so toxic that even the mere suggestion of an alternative can get me killed in some parts. But I belong to God and not anyone else. Take care. Love your God. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Life is about being not doing. Its about what you are being when you are doing something? You could be doing anything but are you being anxious, arrogant, selfish , loving, compassionate...... What you are being is what you feel . Ironically we call ourself human being not human doing. Sikhism per my understanding is about being. You can have all the riches and comfort but you should always have your priorities in order. Knowing as Guru Teg Bahadur says in most of his vairag sabads life is an illusion, nothing you see is real. Its just what you think you are in reference to something. Its like we give importance to things based on our priorities. Based on our minds We are making it all up.