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  1. I don't think we can blame the majority of the law abiding citizens. The british during their Raaj have distilled divide and conquer mentality, back stabbing , money is king tactics in the indian blood. Which today in my opinion helps those that are most vulnerable, and those corrupt individuals know how to exploit this. The British stopped Maharaj Dalip Singh going back to Punjab and take back his rule , they played every tactic to stop him and succeeded, otherwise I think Punjab would have been thee place to be. Those tactics by GOI/Police are still played now over the years we have seen protestors been shut down , abused, framed by the Police. A lot of the youngsters especially in Punjab want to go out to other countries as there are hardly any opportunities. GOI need to sort out 3 basic tenants of a country , 1) Health system 2)Police 3) Education . Its shocking that GOI on Republic day they are parading around the border showing off their weapons rather than focusing on the farmers protest and COVID19. Those few that stand up for rights are targeted. As it canbe seen from the Farmers protest. further South , those who have well paid jobs, are educated are brainwashed by media , hence think its only an issue up North and in Punjab. No one talks , if they do its against us.
  2. @Kcmidlands your bang on , its all about money nothing else. Its also interesting how they state India is a sovereign country , leave all matters to them as they can deal with it. Everyone else stay out. Yet they cause atrocities left , right and center yet no one talks. On the media , you had mainstream news about BLM,Egypt,Russia, first Mosque to provide COVID Vaccines et.. But no coverage of the farmers protest on mainstream News, where GOI have :- 1) Arrested approx. 143 people. In particular one 80 yr old and one 70 yr old. Arrested people whilst they were having lungar(food) 2) Over 170 deaths , where some have been suicides and shootings by the Police 3) Journalists arrested , cracking down on news medias such as newsclick 4) RSS thugs bought in to cause violence 5) human rights violations ( no access to toilets/bathroom/barricaded in like sheep) the list goes on and on …... I never understood the GOI judicial system , it seems as if they make it up as they are going along and all they are doing is watching video footage and arresting people at random. Surely international pressure can help put pressure on GOI ? I
  3. These guys are very clever and know how to use and abuse the system. He used the "mental instability" tactic to get off lightly. Is there an appeal to the decision or have the parties involved accepted the decision?
  4. Theres always 2 sides to the story. One question , why doesn't Deep Sidhu , go back to the Morcha and explain to the sangat what really happened. If his intentions are not to defame the morcha. Why not come out if he has nothing to hide and is a true sikh , with honest agenda . Such a shame , listening to couple of his speeches , he comes across as a good character . Loads of questions around how he got to the red fort , when confronted by youth why he ran away , where did he get the motorcycle from to flee Red fort ….. The video about the Singh who put up the Nishaan Sahib was seen and he stated when they went to the red fort , it was calm , peaceful but then the Police started to beat up a Nihang Singh , then in defense the other Nihangs came to help him then it all kicked off.
  5. In my opinion , the government obviously want the farmers out of delhi . On Akaal channel a statement came out to arrest Deep Sidhu and carry out a full investigation.They also mentioned extra armed forces and internet blackout has been deployed. 18 Police officers were injured. This asks the question will they use this against the farmers and force them out of Delhi , hopefully not causing any bloodsched? There are other people aligned as well for investigation but names were not released. This is basically social media and TV media at its best. I think in one way the government have what they seeked out to get from day one. The farmers split , people going against the morcha . The fact that there was hardly any media coverage during the 60 days plus when peaceful protest were going on. There was no media coverage when some groups wanted to harm the morcha and it was the farmers who were carrying out security activities. There was no media coverage when there was conspiracy to kill the 4 farmer leaders .There were no media coverage when fake police officers with no name badges did latee charge. There were probably many many more incidents that occurred which the whole world are not aware of. The only real media is here in the UK( Akaal,Sikh,KTV,Sangat) that go in at ground level to get to the truth. But I think the problem is how do we get it out there to the masses. This is propaganda at its best reminds me of Hitlers propaganda against the jews defaming them in any way shape and form and getting the masses turn against and blame the jews. I think we can only stay positive and carry on with the Morcha. even if the farmers are removed forcefully from delhi. The farmers should create there own leadership ,and setup there own agenda so that all farmers are benefitted such as install solar panels in villages , get there water setup , get there own buyers of produce . As the sangat are willing to donate within India and internationally for a good cause. So I don't think money would be an issue if shared and used wisely. The farmers create there own Monopoly bypass aid from the government . It will be a challenge. May Waheguru provide guidance and support to those true souls who are fighting for a true cause.
  6. India is so corrupt, these are their tactics to get others going against the farmers. They farmers will not get any justice, the government are playing dirty political games. I think international pressure must be applied. Its a shame English media bbc, itv have not shown this on main news.. We can only pray hoping there is no bloodshed.
  7. Good post and question. I totally agree we need something , in my opinion I think :- 1. Have clearly defined roles and responsibilities . such as a team that can tackle Gurudawara issues , a team to tackle social media issues , a team to tackle political issues , a team to educate all , a team for sports issues/activities etc... We have a lot of organisations here in the UK that are already doing this such as Sikh network , Basics of Sikhi , Sikh Federation , Sikh Council UK ( Do we need to bring them all together ?) and will they be willing to work together ? Recently there has been a split in Sikh Council UK , due to disputes between different factions ? ( Sikh Council UK was good , but not publicized very well , now disputes/splits , the question arises will anything work , I think yes if we have the right people . 2. Pay the people For those chosen , give them a wage ( The Gurudawara can fund this , or even the sangat. We have to hit the masses ( can use Sikh Channels to do so , if we clearly define the roles and objectives) .If there are approximately 700,000 Sikhs in the UK , each give £1 a week , we have in a month 2.8 million pounds. This can be used to pay the selected persons , and I think we can all spare £1 a week. 3. Give power to the selected body Here in the UK , once a panel of people have been selected it should go to the Government and ask them to give powers ( maybe similar to the charity commission) , such that they can serve appropriate penalties to those who are going against sikhi . (If one knows slating Sikhi in any way,shape or form means punishment , the perpetrator's will think twice about doing bad deeds) 4. All need to be doing the same Regardless of which Gurudawara one goes to , all should follow the same mariyada , and stop opening too many Gurudawara in the same area due to personal conflict. 5. Involve the young Get the youth involved more , give them more responsibility may be advised by the experienced and older generation. 6. Use the TV channels Educate and inform the community . We have 4 Sikh channels , mostly all of them are doing the same ( i.e. news , path , more news , bit of hot topics , more news ) … with the funding setup research centres in the UK , so proper research of sikhi can be done with visual aids and presented on the channels. One of them can be the Sikh History starting from 14th Century ( from Hindu/sufi rule , to Mugal/Persian rule , to Gurus times , Maharaja Ranjeet Singh times, British Raaj etc...). I think if we know our history , one can realise the sacrifices Sikhs made so we can have the life we have today . You never know some diamonds may arise and lead the way . I think India is a different kettle of fish , makes my blood boil when I see a sikh being beaten , kesh pulled , distaar taken off , and this is by the Police , who should be the protectors but rather they are the abusers. Hence no one really stands up , incase they are framed and banged up in jail.
  8. He should be challenged , to come on air voice his point and on the other side the scholars / organisations who have factual information to challenge him. We probably know the outcome ( he wont turn up )
  9. Question - how do you know the people behind the posts are Sikh ? One can easily on social media get images , setup sikh names , and post stuff which is anti sikh to cause a stir / controversy. I think they should be ignored , don't give them the lime light , let them do whatever they do behind closed doors ...
  10. I cant believe I am reading this thread , so much hatred , racist comments …. Are you sure you are a Sikh ? Sikhs and Hindus are not being told to be friendly with Muslims. ( if "someone" said to you go make friends with Drug dealers and rapists , would you ? Who was Bhai Mardana ? Who was Pir Buddu shah ? No one is pretending anything happened , everything is written down in history. The British Raj when they ruled India for almost 200 years , killed innocent , damaged the economy of India which in those times , India had 27% GDP of the whole world , was the leader of exporting cotton goods , made ships etc... ( If it wasn't for the British back in those times , India would have been a serious power to contend with .Are you going to say , don't make friends with the British people) You may have experienced some bad relationships with particular people , but you cannot tarnish everyone with the same brush. There are good and bad people in every society. Sikhs are not disgraceful , more damaging are those RSS so called Sikhs , who pretend to be Sikhs , look like Sikhs , act like Sikhs but are damaging Sikhi from within by false parchaar , changing literature. Look at India today , Where Sikhs from Hazoor Sahib came to Punjab and are being blamed to have spread COVID-19, all over the India media to belittle Sikhs. To earn respect one must act respectfully.
  11. Why don't you ask your parents , who can take the burden away from you and find a suitable girl based on your requirements. (Arranged marriage) They will do the ground work , to find a suitable partner , from a good family background , etc..etc.. Then the rest is up to you ? It works both ways , you have to be good yourself as well . Marriage is about compromise , sharing , caring , learning to back off in awkward situations, biting your tongue , love will then develop over time . Having a girlfriend for x amount of years is different than marriage. You only know the true qualities of a person once living together in the same house 24x7. But if ones character is not selfish , it will be your actions that bonds you together for life.
  12. I think the documentary was good . It did not do justice to the interfaith marriage , just showed one view but did not actually explain what Anand Kharaj is and why Sikhs oppose interfaith marriage if the other party do not believe in maharaj jis values. I think that part of the footage portrayed Sikhs as thugs. Bhai Jagraj Singh summed it up well , "where do we get our sikhi from" , how qualified are we to comment on sikhi. ( which made me think , how much Sikhi do I know and follow …….very little ) The Singhs who covered their faces , why ? They should have explained what Maharaj Ji is telling the sangat , rather than covering up faces , trying to hide something. Be proud and truthful so one can stand anywhere in the world without covering up because one is speaking and acting truthfully. From the documentary I think Sunny is realizing what Sikhi is and the message Jagraj Singh has been preaching . Which is a good thing . The message about sikhi camps I think was true , where the sangat get more from Sikhi Camps than the Gurudawara in terms of spirituality, dialogue , information easy to understand etc.. This I think we need to learn upon and bring into the Gurudawaras more. I think documentaries around Sikhi should be positive , encouraging and motivating because Sikhi is that and much more . Issues that effect the Sangat which relate to Sikhi such as Anand Kharaj , should show both views and not snippits and I guarantee you the Gurus message will come on top all the time. The beautiful message of Sukhmani Kaur when Sunny was saying he doesn't feel anything relating to Sikhi , she replied its because you need to experience it and not just read it for knowledge.
  13. Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh There is a vaja class at Guru Nanak Gurudawara Smethwick High Street every Monday start at 6pm for beginners and advanced class at 7pm.
  14. LOL , sorry bad timing for the post bro , slightly off topic .. I agree with your comments , was just ranting on about how we can protect amrtidhari and sikhi as if someone dressed up in bana , has kesh , kirpan and commits crimes ( just some thoughts ..thanks
  15. Very Sad news , deepest condolences to their families may their souls rest in peace . I think we need a national / international database registering all amritdhari baptized Sikhs , detailing , when they took Amrit , there address when baptized etc... , and issue each with ID cards. So that sikhi is not targeted , hope i'm very wrong but the way kaljug is spreading in this world , whats stopping a dushman of sikhi , dressing up as a baptized sikh and misusing the articles of faith , especially the kirpan.
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