Should Sikhism Be Liberalised

[Khalsa_Girl_1]

actually ur right, lets start disobeying half of Guru ji's hukam to fit into society. clubbing is in society nowadays.. shall we do dat? how abt drinking... apparently its "cool"

r u also considering altering the Khanda? Lyk add a tie in the middle.. or replace the chakra with a cd-rom?? very futuristic

Good luck :TH:

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HEHEHEHE!

i think hes now...

[Khalsa_Girl_1]

well he sort of revealed what a sikh he is when he signed off as the gursikh of the universe, man he thinks a lot of himself or else well he is a hindu

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well now that u been revealed why not be urself in the posts?

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

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users using diffrent user names on different sites?

Is he hindu or sikh?

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obviously, hes not a true Sikh. :doh:

[randip singh]

Dear Gursikhs,

I know you'll hate me for this but I am just showing you the True Picture.

I dont say we give permission for anything against the Gurus.

But We have to change with changing times.

Guru have done things at the appropriate times.

Why Guru Nanakji Start Sikhism & not made Khalsa Force?

Guru Gobind Singhji Started Khalsa because that was the need of that time.

Now infact majority of the Soldiers in the Defence Forces Trim Beards.

Why have we started wearing Pants & Shirts?

Why dont we wear Kacherras & Jabbas to our Offices?

Majority of the Sikh youth dont want to keep long Beards.

If they are not given such liberty they will revolt & become Clean Shaven.

Trimming of Beard should be taken lightly.

Majority of Sikh girls are marrying Clean Shaven Guys. They wont mind even if they are not Punjabis but they dont want to move along with Guys with Long Beards.

We become angry when we see a Sikh with his Beard Trimmed, but have our leaders missed out any occassion in praising the Hard work of Dharmendra & his Sons, Sunny Deol & Bobby Deol?

Oh Dharmendra Sadde Punjab da Puttar.

Why this Discrimination? Because he has become Rich & Famous.

Bloody Diplomats.

Majority of the Leaders with Full beards are not doing any good for Sikhism. Their only aim is to fool the innocent so that they make loads & loads of money.

Sorry to dissapoint you'll once again.

But I will not stop telling the Truth.

Gursikh of Universe

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Sikhism is already a Liberal faith.

Unfortunately it has been hijacked by Masands who like 300years in the past.

Sikhism has always been progressive:

-Open place of worship and eating to all faiths, castes, creeds etc

-Total gender equality

-Widow remarriage

-No imposed codes of dress on men and women

-Democratic institutions - eg Panchayats, Gurmatta (consensus) etc etc

The list is endless.

[SinghStar]

Gursikh of Universe? And yet you think the Khalsa was initiated for the sole purpose of fighting mughals?

Firstly, everything in Sikhi is from Nanak. All the Guru's after Him, merely put his philosophy and his teachings into physical form. Nanak started the Khalsa, Gobind Singh gave it a physical form. And it has nothing to do with fighting or being an army. It was the first to introduce the concept of equality among the human race, among other things. Hundreds of years before the west could even catch up to it. Infact, even today they do not have the perfect democratic representation for their people. Sikhi does.

Why are you always focusing on the negativity of the world? In the world of hopelessness Guru Nanak brough the light. And he didn't force it down people's throats, so neither should we. Follow Nanak's teachings, that's all we need.

[sewak sikh]

Dear Gursikhs,

Why Guru Nanakji Start Sikhism & not made Khalsa Force?

Trimming of Beard should be taken lightly.

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guru nanak dev ji ne ik insan nu sikh banaya

till ninth patshah os sikhi de parivar nu banaya te sikh nu sant banaya

te guru gobind singh ji maharaj sikh nu sant sipahi banaya.

alone a saint is helpless and cant protect himself

alone sipahi becomes jalim

so guru ji ne khande bathe da amrit chaka ke sant sipahi banaye (deen te dharam di rakhiya layi)

so nothing strange

AND BY THE WAY..................

WHY DONT U SAY IT STRAIGHT TAHT U WANT TO TRIM UR BEARD AND FOLLOW SIKHI AS U WANT IT (ur way)..........................

WHY MAKING SO MUCH STORIES AND LAME XCUSES.................

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[natsilahk]

Gursikh of Universe? And yet you think the Khalsa was initiated for the sole purpose of fighting mughals?

Firstly, everything in Sikhi is from Nanak. All the Guru's after Him, merely put his philosophy and his teachings into physical form. Nanak started the Khalsa, Gobind Singh gave it a physical form. And it has nothing to do with fighting or being an army. It was the first to introduce the concept of equality among the human race, among other things. Hundreds of years before the west could even catch up to it. Infact, even today they do not have the perfect democratic representation for their people. Sikhi does.

Why are you always focusing on the negativity of the world? In the world of hopelessness Guru Nanak brough the light. And he didn't force it down people's throats, so neither should we. Follow Nanak's teachings, that's all we need.

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lol...you have to be kidding me, right?

Yes, The philosophy of "gender equality" was present in Sikhi before the West.

But, to say the Sikhs actually achieved gender equality before it became present in Western countries is outright ridiculous.

Gender equality present...yes, in the Gurus time.

Just like there were gender equality flashes during various periods in American History.

But, to say the Sikhs have accomplished their philosophy first is just wrong.

Look at the main issues the Sikhs are facing now...woman cant do kirtan? woman cant do certain types of seva?...

you think all miniorities are represented the exact way the Sikh philosophy states they should be?

Philosophy is from the east, but West actually achieved the goal.

[SSM]

so u do agree that sikhism believes in equality?

well now as sikhs lets follow our religion to the max, yeah so that means not trying to 'liberalise it'.

afterall ur agreeing that sikhi has it all but we need to follow it.

''you think all miniorities are represented the exact way the Sikh philosophy states they should be?

Philosophy is from the east, but West actually achieved the goal.''

explain?

if u want to look at how minorities are treated then look at how many probs we faced trying to keep the turban in western countries.

if u wanna talk abt gender equality, then on paper women and men are equal but have u looked at job opportunities, a man gets a job for who he is, a woman often for what she looks like-equality in the west, .

[SinghStar]

Yes, the west really has achieved...the objectification of women.

[gupt_paapi]

its lyk saying "should pc's be digitalised?"

(btw incse u dont no.. pc's alredy R digital )

[buddasingh]

Dear Gursikhs,

I know you'll hate me for this but I am just showing you the True Picture.

I dont say we give permission for anything against the Gurus.

---etc

Sorry to dissapoint you'll once again.

But I will not stop telling the Truth.

Gursikh of Universe

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Lets pretend for a moment that you’re for real…

I hate to break it to you, but the problem is not your beard. It’s your self-esteem. Today you shave your beard, and the only thing that stops you from jumping off a bridge tomorrow and ending your misery is that not everyone else is doing it.

Do you have any idea what morons people look like when they claim sikhi and their beard is shaved? The fact that one would claim sikhi and then completely violate it, shows some serious mental deficiency. If you are real, I pity you.