Difference Between Kaam And Prem

[Guest daas]

What is difference between Kaam and Prem.

If you love some one from your heart without thinking about his/her physical condition..and you marry to that person is it a Kaam? or it's a Prem.

So how come love marrige is aginast Gurmat. Guru Sahib himself teaches us to do "prem", prem with akal purakh. So if we haven't learned to "prem" (love) with ourselves how can we love God.

Guru Gobind Singh sahib,

"Jin Prem kiyo tin hi prabh payo"

by loving God, you are marrying Him abd being one with Him.

So it's our spirtual marrige with Waheguru akal purakh through Love (prem) not Kaam.

And this way while living in this world, our worldy marrige done with love (prem) not kaam.

What do you think?

[Heera Singh]

kaam = lust = excessive sexual desire...

love and lust are 2 very diff things... i.e. u love ur family but u don't lust them... u love them for who they are and u love the person they are...

if u lust over someone that means u are more into the physical aspect... u can both love and lust a person at the same time... but u gotta decide where u are... its all within the mind... obviously if u marry someone there's gotta be SOME sexual desire (IMHO).... but its when those desires start takin over when it becomes a problem...

in the gurbani tuk u posted... i feel Guru Jee is talkin bout the love between father and son (Satguru Jee and himself)...

so basically to answer ur question

If you love some one from your heart without thinking about his/her physical condition..and you marry to that person is it a Kaam? or it's a Prem.

it is not kaam...

[japmans]

though it may be moh

[Guest Guest]

though it may be moh

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man, moh is very very dangerous beast and superkiller....

[Heera Singh]

ahhhh... touché

[japmans]

nope..touche is lust

[Pheena]

Once I was on a journey and someone asked me which word in a man's vocabulary was the most valuable. My reply was, "Love". The man was surprised. He said he had expected me to answer "soul" or

"God". I laughed and said, "Love is God."

Raising on the ray of love one can enter the enlightened kingdom of God. It is better to say that love is God than to say that truth is God, because the harmony, the beauty, the vitality and the bliss that are part of love are not part of truth. Truth is to be known; love is to be felt as well as known. The growth and perfection of love lead to the ultimate merger with God.

The greatest poverty of all is the absence of love. The man who has not developed the capacity to love lives in a private hell of his own. A man who is filled with love is in heaven. You can look at man as a wonderful and unique plant, a plant that is capable of producing both nectar and poison. If a man lives by hate he reaps a harvest of poison; if he lives by love he gathers blossoms laden with nectar.

If I mold my life and live it with the well-being of all men in mind, that is love. Love results from the awareness that you are not separate, not different from anything else in existence. I am in you; you are in me. This love is religious. The doors of love only open for the person who is prepared to let his ego go. To surrender one's ego for someone else is love; to surrender one's ego for all is divine love.

Love is not sexual passion. Those who mistake sex for love remain empty of love. Sex is only a passing manifestation of love. It is part of nature's mechanism, a method of procreation. Love exists on a higher plane, and as love grows, sex dissipates. The energy that has been manifested in sex is transformed into love.

Love is the creative refinement of sex energy. And so, when love reaches perfection, the absence of sex automatically follows. A life of love, an abstinence from physical pleasures is called brahmacharya, and anyone who wishes to be free from sex must develop his capacity to love. Freedom from sex cannot be achieved through supression. Liberation from sex is only possible through love.

I have said that love is God. This is the ultimate truth. But let me say as well that love also exists within the family unit. This is the first step on the journey to love, and the ultimate can never happen if the beginning has been absent. Love is responsible for the existence of the family and when the family unit moves apart and its members spread out into society, love increases and grows. When a man's family has finally grown to incorporate all of mankind, his love becomes one with God.

Without love man is an individual, an ego. He has no family; he has no link with other people. This is gradual death. Life, on the other hand, is interrelation.

Love surpasses the duality of the ego. This alone is truth. The man who thirsts for truth must first develop his capacity to love—to the point where the difference between the lover and the beloved disappears and only love remains.

When the light of love is freed from the duality of lover and the beloved, when it is freed from the haze of seer and seen, when only the light of pure love shines brightly, that is freedom and liberation.

I urge all men to strive for that supreme freedom.

[simmal tree]

nope..touche is lust

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Japman Singh i was really surprised how in the other thread you said you brush your teeth twice a day.. I never noticed..

Anyway this is such an awesome question.

Thank you "daas" jee for posting this question.

This question MIGHT JUST bring the quality of sikhsangat posts up from to @

This is the mistake that so many Western people make.

They say "It's all about love. Make love not war."

but what kind of love?

their definition of Love is Kaam. Whereas Gurmat definition of Love is Prem. Prem is putting yourself aside for the other person. Becoming one with the other. Destroying your sense of self, your ego, for the other person. Prema-bhagti is the ultimate love. Getting rid of your ego to be one with akaal purakh.

please forgive my mistakes

vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa

vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!

[GuruManeyoGranth]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Whereas Gurmat definition of Love is Prem. Prem is putting yourself aside for the other person. Becoming one with the other. Destroying your sense of self, your ego, for the other person. Prema-bhagti is the ultimate love. Getting rid of your ego to be one with akaal purakh.

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[Guest Guest]

kaam = lust = excessive sexual desire...

love and lust are 2 very diff things... i.e. u love ur family but u don't lust them... u love them for who they are and u love the person they are...

if u lust over someone that means u are more into the physical aspect... u can both love and lust a person at the same time... but u gotta decide where u are... its all within the mind... obviously if u marry someone there's gotta be SOME sexual desire (IMHO).... but its when those desires start takin over when it becomes a problem...

in the gurbani tuk u posted... i feel Guru Jee is talkin bout the love between father and son (Satguru Jee and himself)...

so basically to answer ur question

If you love some one from your heart without thinking about his/her physical condition..and you marry to that person is it a Kaam? or it's a Prem.

it is not kaam...

no there shouldnt be any kaam between a singh and singhnia who are married.

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