Breaking The Silence!

[Golee Maro]

oh believe me - the sikh awareness group is doing parchaar on those issues too.

[Pyara]

Fateh Ji,

Who's raising awareness of the CULT-DEHDHARI GURU Groups who are also a threat to our Kaum, maybe even bigger than the Islamics?

Why is no body combating the parchaar of RADHSOAMIS, DARSHAN DASIS, NAAMDHARIS, NARINDER GREWAL etc that are causing more damage to our Kaum than the Muslims? How many relatives do you know you are following some kind of Guru/Baba with an anti Gurmat stance compare to families who have been targetted my muslims?

I am not bashing the good work that this awareness group are doing, but what always concerns me is how easy we identify the muslim as the enemy to our Kaum and turn a blind eye to the sly enemy who seems to have comfortably established themselves in our community.

Very true, there isnt just one "baddie". Some enemies of the panth are internal and do more damage! What about those youth who have cut their hair after meeting Narinder Grewal. We all know Lakhan was a very inspirational character who did lots of seva. I dont think Islamic fundementalists had a chance to convert him, however the sly "Sikh Looking" Grewel changed his thinking totally! Grewal looks Sikhs but continues to damage Sikhi with his actions. We need to create awareness against Cults like this. Members of these cults actually Sit in Gurdwara Sangat.

The Awareness has to branch out from just one group.

[Guest militant singh]

Check out the profiles of Sikhs gals on shaadi.com and hi5.com and you can see the reason why they are so messed in the head.

2 words some up how they get corrupt and targetted by islamic nuts:

LIBERAL VALUES!

Parents try to do their best for their kids in western society trying to be modern and liberal giving their girls equality and yet some punjabi sikh girls throw it all back in their face by their disgracful lack of respect and then to top it off go off with a muslim guy who wants to undermine your faith and wish to create all the world's people to follow a barbaric faith which undermines womens rights and treats them no better than cattle and baby making machines.

The girls that need to be targetted for this awareness campaign do not attend gurdwara's because they dont see themselves as religious but will call themself Sikh to have some kind of identity. The awareness campaign needs to be started in colleges and uni's drawing in girls of Sikh background who have been raised in liberal environmemt to learn about their faith, history and tactics of islamics.

tru say about da h5 geeza recently ma mate told a 'sikh' girl2 take pix of drugs of her hi 5 as she had bigged up khalistan and had bhindrawale pix on her profile -dis along wid her doing drugs 1 thing led 2 da next and then she came with a muslim boy 2 ma mates house .........................and subsequently there was an argument this is the state of sikh girls these days makes me sick they betray thier own hope they all jus vanish and get out of our community we dont need dirt

[KharkooSingh]

Fateh Ji,

Who's raising awareness of the CULT-DEHDHARI GURU Groups who are also a threat to our Kaum, maybe even bigger than the Islamics?

Why is no body combating the parchaar of RADHSOAMIS, DARSHAN DASIS, NAAMDHARIS, NARINDER GREWAL etc that are causing more damage to our Kaum than the Muslims? How many relatives do you know you are following some kind of Guru/Baba with an anti Gurmat stance compare to families who have been targetted my muslims?

I am not bashing the good work that this awareness group are doing, but what always concerns me is how easy we identify the muslim as the enemy to our Kaum and turn a blind eye to the sly enemy who seems to have comfortably established themselves in our community.

Very true, there isnt just one "baddie". Some enemies of the panth are internal and do more damage! What about those youth who have cut their hair after meeting Narinder Grewal. We all know Lakhan was a very inspirational character who did lots of seva. I dont think Islamic fundementalists had a chance to convert him, however the sly "Sikh Looking" Grewel changed his thinking totally! Grewal looks Sikhs but continues to damage Sikhi with his actions. We need to create awareness against Cults like this. Members of these cults actually Sit in Gurdwara Sangat.

The Awareness has to branch out from just one group.

Fateh Ji,

I hope that this awareness group do branch out and do parchar of other issues effecting Sikhi in the UK today such as alcoholism, drug dealing, club scene, sleeping around culture along with the cult dehdhari groups which are all responsible for "undermining" Sikh principles. In my eyes Islamic groups play a small part in our current situation.

Sometimes it feels like we are a one-issue party only and want to blame all our problems on the Islamics. The danger here is that we create a comfort zone where we think that is what the situation is!

The enemy lies within!

[Charan Singh]

I attended the Luton programme. You are doing a good seva but I didnt like it when the black magic thing was promoted, it was like scare mongering. You should always tell the sangat that to have full confidence in Gurbani. Alot of time was spent on this subject by the the Singh in the Black Kenyan Dastar. Also the Sikhi element doesnt seem to be there in the talks, whats Sikh Awareness without Sikhi?

[Golee Maro]

I attended the Luton programme. You are doing a good seva but I didnt like it when the black magic thing was promoted, it was like scare mongering. You should always tell the sangat that to have full confidence in Gurbani. Alot of time was spent on this subject by the the Singh in the Black Kenyan Dastar. Also the Sikhi element doesnt seem to be there in the talks, whats Sikh Awareness without Sikhi?

I dont remember promotion of black magic, however i remember the awareness being raised. because theres no hiding the fact that black magic does exist but Sikhs are banned from indulging in such activities and are given Naam as protection from it. Also at the end of and during each programme there are chances for people to speak up. i suggest you speak up at the time, not afterwards on a forum

I am sure the organisers will take your view into consideration for next time though.

[Pakandi baba]

I attended the Luton programme. You are doing a good seva but I didnt like it when the black magic thing was promoted, it was like scare mongering. You should always tell the sangat that to have full confidence in Gurbani. Alot of time was spent on this subject by the the Singh in the Black Kenyan Dastar. Also the Sikhi element doesnt seem to be there in the talks, whats Sikh Awareness without Sikhi?

I dont remember promotion of black magic, however i remember the awareness being raised. because theres no hiding the fact that black magic does exist but Sikhs are banned from indulging in such activities and are given Naam as protection from it. Also at the end of and during each programme there are chances for people to speak up. i suggest you speak up at the time, not afterwards on a forum

I am sure the organisers will take your view into consideration for next time though.

Tell that to the *EDITED* who go to babe to do jadu tona!!!

They go to any tom <admin-profanity filter activated> or harry and claim baba ji will make us better. it enrages me these *EDITED* are doing such things.

Then the cults that spring up like weed in the lawan, tiem and tiem again.

Then those ignorant morons who condemn the Sikhs who campaign for Khalistan, well if those that don't want it, when we get it, DON'T LIVE THERE YOU HEAR!!!!

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