Bhangra At Nagar Kirtans

[Sarbloh]

yeh but the thing is if we approach the olders they dont care, its the youths dat have sense today and stop beadbi, i remeber at ek niwas, the older guys includin the fedis sed lets cum back tomorow and have a meeting about it, and youths were like <admin-profanity filter activated> we are going in if they dont giv guru jis saroop back and well stand out here untill as long as it takes

So tell me brother, what gift do the youth have that the elder Gursikhs don't seem to have? Just because elders might see something differently to us does not mean we completley dismiss their opinion or approach!!! Don't forget, the budha dal over looked the tarna dal!!!

[singh_bling]

yeh i get what ur sayin, i kno that the elders would make a better approach, but iam just sayin that they dont take much care in beadbi as youths do

[papoo]

Papoo thinks the elders play politics. Papoo is thinking where is the 'stop baba mann singh and baba ranjit singh brigade' now? it seems anyone trying to do amrit parchaar we will all try and stop, but anyone blatantly taking the p*ss, we will just ignore. the youth have to kick start the elders.

[randip singh]

Just break the windows and beat up the guy, poor alcohol over his kesh and pull his dhari, that seems to be the standard for punishment within the Rehit Police nowadays.

sooo true.......we are turning into Jehadists.............what a shame.

[singh_bling]

Papoo thinks the elders play politics. Papoo is thinking where is the 'stop baba mann singh and baba ranjit singh brigade' now? it seems anyone trying to do amrit parchaar we will all try and stop, but anyone blatantly taking the p*ss, we will just ignore. the youth have to kick start the elders.

papooo lol ur correct, they go after the ones who do sikhi parcharr, but leave the ones that really take the p***

[GuruManeyoGranth]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Going back to the original poster's question - Harnek has been disassociated by Nanaksar, Sant Samaj and the Panth. He's using the great name of Sant Baba Mihan Singh Jee to continue deluding a few uneducated people.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Waheguroo

[Sarbloh]

Papoo thinks the elders play politics. Papoo is thinking where is the 'stop baba mann singh and baba ranjit singh brigade' now? it seems anyone trying to do amrit parchaar we will all try and stop, but anyone blatantly taking the p*ss, we will just ignore. the youth have to kick start the elders.

Papoo, there's the same amount politics in the youth than there is in the elders. Looks at the present state of the anti-beadbi campaigns and how the mixture of egos in the youth have caused the various splits in sewa. But one has to agree with your comments about how only selected issues are targetted!!!

I suppose the anti-sant samajists do not see Harneck Singh as as much of a threat as Mann Singh Pheowa or Ranjit Singh Dadriwala, due to his level of popularity being restricted to toronto and coventry!!! Harneck Singh does some beadbi then disappears to his own dera, something that does not seem as threatening to anti-sant samajist as someone who realeases regular DVDs and VCDs of their samagams (such as Mann Singh and Ranjit Singh)!!!

[akaash]

The problem in this situation is the baba who doesnt live in the uk. Any other kind of protesting will just make the remaining Coventry Nanaksar attendees feel that they are being targeted for believing in Baba Nand Singh or Baba Mihan Singh.

The main issue is that the Nagar Kirtan has been happening since the good old days when Coventry Nanaksar had a strong sangat. Therefore many who attend the nagar kirtan will do so out of nostagia or respect to the good old days. Also many will feel like other sampradas that Baba Mihan Singh would have left a sucessor and many feel even by default this is Harnek. Many will remember HArnek being the sevadar who didnt leave Baba Mihan Singh's side during his last days of ill health and therefore believe that he has earned the sucession.

What the difficult issue wiil be is to make people realise that the good old days have truely gone and HArnek is not the worthy sucessor. Nanaksar Cov attendees are probably be fully aware of the drink driving sentance passed by the Alberta courts, but still wish to believe in the Nanaksar set up by Baba Mihan Singh.

Noone can deny the Nanaksar Cov Attendees that they have acheived spritual peace over the years.

This is a mind set, there is an element of sharda here which people need to understand. Harnek has exploited this very well and no doubt the current committee of Nanaksar Cov sing from his hymn sheet aswell. Harnek causes his damage and leaves the Cov Nanaksar Attendees to pick up the pieces. Its about collating factual evidence about the Harnek. Can any Canadian Forum member get hold of the court transcripts to the Nov 2000 sentencing of Harnek?

This Nagar Kirtan is too personal for Nanaksar Cov Attendees, they dont see the manmat, they see the continuation of something that was started by a Sant. Noone will think "baba mihan singh never danced during the nagar kirtan", all this will be shrouded by the fact that the Cov Nanaksar Attendees feel victimised or that they are being picked on by the wider sangat. Its not like the Southall Nagar Kirtans where nobody owns it. The Cov Nanaksar lot actually feel as if this is their Nagar Kirtan.

In this mind set Harnek will beable to get away with murder, and has so far in India.

I totally agree that all those people who spent so much time and effort on defaming Maan Singh and Ranjit Singh totally overlooked someone who is actually very dangerous for the panth. Well there is actual factual evidence on Harnek, we have to collate this and distribute it around coventry. Maybe this will open the eyes of some of the Cov Nanaksar attendees who live in nostagia.......

[Prem]

sooo true.......we are turning into Jehadists.............what a shame.

Aint that the TRUTH!

We have mini-muslims in our midst.

Guru Fateh

[singh_bling]

yeh i totally agree, can sum one post the evidence so it can be distributed