Kaur To Khan Talk @ West Brom Gurudawara!

[Guest Dusty]

WAHEGURU JEE KA KHALSA!! WAHEGURU JEE KI FATHE!!!

I went to the gurudawara last night and there was a talk about real life cases in the UK of muslims coverting our mothers and sisters to ISLAM!!

The talk host talked about how in the past Muslims used to convert people by “FORCE”, but now in this day and age that TEQNIQUE no longer works that well.

Muslim mentality is still the same though, they still want to CONVERT but use different TEQNIQUES!! They schemes such as K TO K, which means KAUR TO KHAN, they promote and pay Muslims BOYS and MUSLIM GIRLS to do this.

The talk host showed us some shocking facts and pictures, its scary. There are some Muslims out there that really HATE US!!

Some of the teqniques mentioned were:

• Muslims attack our foundation in sikhi GURU NANAK DEV JEE by saying that he was Muslim. They say this because 25 miles away from Mecca it say’s only Muslims can enter Mecca. But because Guru Nanak Dev Jee went to Mecca he must be muslim!! Because he wore a top/khorta with Allah’s name on it that was given to Guru Jee as a gift, guru Jee is Muslim!!

• Buying Sikh / Hindu girls “GIFTS” and mobile phones, some as young as 9!! This means that the Muslim can contact her at anytime!!

• Muslim boys and Muslim GILRS Giving our sisters drugs and SPIKING DRINKKS that make them unconscious. While they are unaware they “ABUSE” them and take picture of them and then use “BLACKMAIL” to get them to do what they want.

• They PRETEND and LIE to like us and be our friends!!

He talked about how we/our parents are sooo "BUSY" watching bollywood films and zee/star TV that we don’t know what OUR BROTHERS & SISTERS are doing upstairs on the internet. He talked about us having lack or shall I say NO KNOWLEGED OF SIKIH and how OUR mothers/fathers/big and little sisters/brothers gave up their HEADS for US!!

We have ALL got the SAME BLOOD AS GURU NANAK DEV JEE OUR GREAT GREAT GOD as well as all the GREAT SHAHEED SINGHS and KAURS!!

The host talked of how Muslims SPEND BILLOINS of pounds on promoting their religion. We and our gurudawara say ITS NOT OUR PROBLEM but it is!! Whose problem is it if it is not ours?

We need to GIVE&SPEND TIME / RESOURCES to our people and EDUCATE the OLD&YOUNG about WHO WE ARE!!

The talk host did give out their numbers if we know of anybody in trouble and if we need their help. The host also very kindly asked for OUR HELP, if anybody knows the contact numbers of this awareness group please post.

Host talked about even though we do our NitNaam, why do jump as soon as somebody says BOOO!!!! OUR SIKH PAANTH NEEDS OUR HELP!!! What are we doing, where are we going, we have such a RICH, SOLID and BEAUTIFUL HISTORY/BACKGROUND!!

It was said that it is PAAP/SIN to see something bad happening to Our BLOOD and Doing NOTHING ABOUT IT No matter how much paat os seva we do!!!

The main message of the talk to US who call our selves SIKHS, was not to act like KITTENS but ROOAAARRRR like LIONS and be STRONG and face them!!!! :T:

These are just some of the points i gathered from the talk!!

Please please Forgive me for if i have said anything wrong or offended anyone!! (i'm still learning myself.)

Please Take of Your Selves and OUR KHALSA!!! :TH:

WAHEGURU JEE KA KHALSA!! WAHEGURU JEE KI FATHE!!!

[Guest Bass Singh]

VJKK VJKF

The talk held at West Bromwich is on www.sikhsoul.com in the katha section!

Check it out!

VJKK VJKF!

[Mehtab Singh]

• Muslims attack our foundation in sikhi GURU NANAK DEV JEE by saying that he was Muslim. They say this because 25 miles away from Mecca it say's only Muslims can enter Mecca. But because Guru Nanak Dev Jee went to Mecca he must be muslim!! Because he wore a top/khorta with Allah's name on it that was given to Guru Jee as a gift, guru Jee is Muslim!!

Muslims say He was Muslim, Hindus say He was Hindu, now even Buddhists and Christians are claimimg He belonged to their faith. Doesn't this make us feel mega proud of our SatGuru Ji ? Everyone wants to own His glory, but its us who are called His Sikhs!

• Buying Sikh / Hindu girls "GIFTS" and mobile phones, some as young as 9!! This means that the Muslim can contact her at anytime!!

When they call, greet them with "Sat Sri Akaal paaji". They won't bother you again.

• Muslim boys and Muslim GILRS Giving our sisters drugs and SPIKING DRINKKS that make them unconscious. While they are unaware they "ABUSE" them and take picture of them and then use "BLACKMAIL" to get them to do what they want.

Well, we can blame them, but at the same time we need to warn our fellow Sikhs about this. If our fellow Sikhs are crazy about being modern, who can help them then?

• They PRETEND and LIE to like us and be our friends!!

Only Gurujee is our real friend

He talked about how we/our parents are sooo "BUSY" watching bollywood films and zee/star TV that we don't know what OUR BROTHERS & SISTERS are doing upstairs on the internet.

The same applies to them. Recently there was a news survey which stated that Pakistanis are addicted to Indian porn sites. What were their parents doing then? Watching some Islamic discussion on TV?

He talked about us having lack or shall I say NO KNOWLEGED OF SIKIH and how OUR mothers/fathers/big and little sisters/brothers gave up their HEADS for US!!

If we had knowledge about our history, these people wouldn't even dare look us in the eye. The fact that we've forgotten our history is the reason they have the cheek to come up to us and bark what they will.

Lets rectify our flaws first, and then blame these people. We have created oppurtunities for them to attack us like this. Also, remember every Muslim isn't an enemy, its just the fanatic ones.

[Guest call me wah u want ;)]

fateh jioo..

a similar sort of event will be held @ Slough Singh Sabha Gurdwara 18th March..

(check events section-stikcy)

the event is about Probems Facing Sikh Youth...

nd i presume that that is one of them

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stay in chardi kaala singhoo and singhniaan :TH:

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[Tanu Kaur]

The day we start to believe that we have enemies in the world is the day we become our worst enemies.

It's not Islam Guru Sahib fought against; it was the concept of tyranny.

[Brahm Vidiya]

The day we start to believe that we have enemies in the world is the day we become our worst enemies.

It's not Islam Guru Sahib fought against; it was the concept of tyranny.

its that sort of thinknig sweeping things udner the carpet because we cant be bothered to tackle the situation that is bringing the panth down we need to tackle this situation head on. Guru Sahib fought agaisnt tyranny yes ... but is this not tyranny?

[SaRpAnCh]

Dont forget al taqiaa this is very unknwon to the masses

[proactive]

The day we start to believe that we have enemies in the world is the day we become our worst enemies.

It's not Islam Guru Sahib fought against; it was the concept of tyranny.

its that sort of thinknig sweeping things udner the carpet because we cant be bothered to tackle the situation that is bringing the panth down we need to tackle this situation head on. Guru Sahib fought agaisnt tyranny yes ... but is this not tyranny?

Some people like to live in their own make believe world that there is such a thing as a moderate Islam and that the fanatics don't understand their religion which is a religion of 'peace' look at any newspaper on any given day and you will see how peaceful their religion is.

Apologies to those of a nervous disposition but the fanatics are the real Muslims who live according to the quran and the hadiths.

[muurakh (forgive me...)]

The day we start to believe that we have enemies in the world is the day we become our worst enemies.

It's not Islam Guru Sahib fought against; it was the concept of tyranny.

its that sort of thinknig sweeping things udner the carpet because we cant be bothered to tackle the situation that is bringing the panth down we need to tackle this situation head on. Guru Sahib fought agaisnt tyranny yes ... but is this not tyranny?

Some people like to live in their own make believe world that there is such a thing as a moderate Islam and that the fanatics don't understand their religion which is a religion of 'peace' look at any newspaper on any given day and you will see how peaceful their religion is.

Apologies to those of a nervous disposition but the fanatics are the real Muslims who live according to the quran and the hadiths.

http://sikhissues.blogspot.com/

this is the only thing i could find on the Sikh Awareness Society they're doing lots of work on this issue and they're the ones mainly giving speeches on only this sort of thing and making people aware. just thought i'd post it for you guys to have a look at.

and this site highlights all the main issues (a link from the above)

http://www.whyichosesikhism.com/?p=know

and i was looking through 'something' about 'a certain group' and found ''brahm vidhyas'' avataar. I don't quite get 'you lot', whichever part i'm referring to. i don't even know, thats how confusing it is but basically 'they' believe in baba sri chand guru nanak dev ji's son, who i thought did not get the gurgudhi because they according to guru ji were not worthy, but not really according to these guys??????????????????? i know it's a bit confusing but take a look at this and the pages at the bottom of the site. again found this content from the blogspot

http://www.<banned site filter activated>/htmls/sikh_udhasi.html

sorry really badly sidetracked but i partly agree with what brahm vidya and proactive have said in reply to bhain ji but i do think proactives gone a little bit ott to make his/her point and i don't think we should be dissing all of islam or any religion especially as we are not experts on them and we do not know about the different factions - like in sikhism, unfortunately, there could be loads.

And where u've said (above in bold) 'peace' etc well guru nanak dev ji says:

ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੧ ॥

Shalok, First Mehl:

ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵਣੁ ਮੁਸਕਲੁ ਜਾ ਹੋਇ ਤਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥

It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one.

ਅਵਲਿ ਅਉਲਿ ਦੀਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਿਠਾ ਮਸਕਲ ਮਾਨਾ ਮਾਲੁ ਮੁਸਾਵੈ ॥

First, let him savor the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away.

ਹੋਇ ਮੁਸਲਿਮੁ ਦੀਨ ਮੁਹਾਣੈ ਮਰਣ ਜੀਵਣ ਕਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਚੁਕਾਵੈ ॥

Becoming a true Muslim, a disciple of the faith of Mohammed, let him put aside the delusion of death and life.

ਰਬ ਕੀ ਰਜਾਇ ਮੰਨੇ ਸਿਰ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਮੰਨੇ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਵੈ ॥

As he submits to God's Will, and surrenders to the Creator, he is rid of selfishness and conceit.

ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਰਬ ਜੀਆ ਮਿਹਰੰਮਤਿ ਹੋਇ ਤ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥੧॥

And when, O Nanak, he is merciful to all beings, only then shall he be called a Muslim. ||1||

Anyway just look through the site if you have time.

forgive if i have offended anyone or said something against gurmat i don't know wat i'm on about half the time so sangat bakhshan yog hai maaf karna

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh

[Guest militant singh]

dnt promote fake sikhism 4rm crappy websites like sarbhloh.info which are desgined to confuse and brainwash