Hip Hop

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I might get totally bashed for this but I listen to loads of R & B and some hip hop. I listen to it for the lyrics and it really helps me get through daily struggles in life and I love the beats .. but I dont see how this makes me any less of a Sikh..

Some people are BEYONDDDD hardcore...

[Guest peacemaker]

I might get totally bashed for this but I listen to loads of R & B and some hip hop. I listen to it for the lyrics and it really helps me get through daily struggles in life and I love the beats .. but I dont see how this makes me any less of a Sikh..

Some people are BEYONDDDD hardcore...

Hearing you say that makes me feel much better now!

[Gupt Daas -Anonyms Servant]

I might get totally bashed for this but I listen to loads of R & B and some hip hop. I listen to it for the lyrics and it really helps me get through daily struggles in life and I love the beats .. but I dont see how this makes me any less of a Sikh..

Some people are BEYONDDDD hardcore...

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh!

:cool: Shocked

But anyway why do you need to Listen to that kind of music Ji when you can Just Jap Naam Ji ????

Naam Japu

Naam is the cure for everything and it is fun Ji

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh!

[Guest peacemaker]

I might get totally bashed for this but I listen to loads of R & B and some hip hop. I listen to it for the lyrics and it really helps me get through daily struggles in life and I love the beats .. but I dont see how this makes me any less of a Sikh..

Some people are BEYONDDDD hardcore...

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh!

:umm: Shocked

But anyway why do you need to Listen to that kind of music Ji when you can Just Jap Naam Ji ????

Naam Japu

Naam is the cure for everything and it is fun Ji

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh!

Can I say something? I like how you wrote (Heart ji :cool: .

I'll just say that not everyone is the same and we should be free to choose to listen to what we like. There are many ways to find happiness and we shouldn't be confined to just one particular way.

[Pakandi baba]

My tatste varies.

I listen to Shabad/Kitan & all other types of music

Rock

Pop

Classical

Panjabi

Hindi

Qwali

Indie

Rap

Dance

Country

[AK-47]

all of this boils down to the lyrics and the words being said.

if the words are good and teach you to be a better person then fine. if they teach you to be a better sikh, then fine. if they teach you about vaheguru and sikhi, then fine.

but if they do the opposite then we should keep away.

a song or lyrics in a song are similar to having a conversation. for example do i want to have a conversation with somebody telling me how they have slept with loads of women and how much they can drink .. no i dont. but do i want a conversation with someone about the greatness of vaheguru and gursikhs .. yes i do. the same applies to lyrics in a song, think about what conversation you are listening to.

the ultimate truth is that our conversation should always be about vaheguru. yes in garisti marg this isnt always physically possible, but where we can we should make eforts to do so. guru ji has said that he has given us these ears to hear the praises of vaheguru, so we should try and use them for this purpose as much as possible.

sometimes we get stuck in life and need advice, so we turn to friends for their opinions and advice. lyrics can often be the same, we believe that the writer is giving us his/her opinion but just singing it rather then saying it. again if it is good advice it can help you. but again we need to keep in mind that as we progress in sikhi the only person who can realllly give the best advice is guru ji via gurbani. so in future when we go through hard times in life we will turn to gurbani more and more as this will help us more, but this is a journey and not something which will happen overnight.

i would say that there is nothing you can find in any lyrics anywhere which is positive that isnt in gurbani. the problem with people like me is that i dont understand gurbani, if i did then i would always go to gurbani first and only.

final comment, people keep saying 'hardcore' this and that. well im sorry but guru ji is very hardcore. he sets a very difficult path of sikhi. so much of gurbani tells us what we need to do to be gursikhs and merge with vaheguru, and that isnt going to be easy. we will have to be hardcore with our jeevans if we want to obtain that merging with vaheguru. however that doesnt mean that we speak to each other with ego. i do think that people who are saying hip hop is wrong are not saying it out of ego, but because they genuinlly believe that it is wrong for sikhs to be doing sangat of that music. lets not always take this as a personal attack, but lets try taking this as advice (although perhaps not worded correctly!!)

[Guest peacemaker]

^^^^

* Stands up and claps loudly*

That was beautiful, my friend, simply beautiful!

*Wipes tears from eyes and slowly walks away after gathering himself*

[KKV]

^^^^

* Stands up and claps loudly*

That was beautiful, my friend, simply beautiful!

*Wipes tears from eyes and slowly walks away after gathering himself*

ur klassic Bhaji lol

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Beautiful post. Agreed with AK-41

[jassa]

is hip hop and rap same ????? bohemia is best ..... punjabi rap da badshah mere varga kehra ...